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NY fish regulations

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BoatGuy
BoatGuyFREE2024#1
Hello all

I know as a rule they always wait until the last minute. Will the new fishing regs be posted soon?

Trying to plan trips, and don't want to plan a (just an example) May 1st Fluke trip if the season starts a week later, I remember voting.

Just asking.
First MateOriginal Crew780 postsSince 2019
Hunter704
Hunter704FREE2024#2
I am sure as always they will wait till the last minute to post the fluke regs.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,748 postsSince 2019
pequa1
pequa1MOD2024#3
19-inch minimum size for the period May 4-August 1, and a 19.5" minimum size for the period August 2-October 15, with a 3-fish bag limit throughout the season.
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,027 postsSince 2018
Hunter704
Hunter704FREE2024#4
won’t be many keepers caught this year
CaptainOriginal Crew2,748 postsSince 2019
BoatGuy
BoatGuyFREE2024#5
19-inch minimum size for the period May 4-August 1, and a 19.5" minimum size for the period August 2-October 15, with a 3-fish bag limit throughout the season.

That has been solidified? Darn. I guess I'll have to cancel my May 3rd trip.

They sent out that survey. I am finding hard to imagine fisherman would have voted for a 19.5 minimum size option.

*DEEP SIGH*

I just checked the website. They have not updated it yet: Recreational Saltwater Fishing Regulations
First MateOriginal Crew780 postsSince 2019
Roccus7
Roccus7MOD2024#6
That has been solidified? Darn. I guess I'll have to cancel my May 3rd trip.

They sent out that survey. I am finding hard to imagine fisherman would have voted for a 19.5 minimum size option.

*DEEP SIGH*

I just checked the website. They have not updated it yet: Recreational Saltwater Fishing Regulations
Not final, but very probable. Your booking on a early May Friday was a real crapshoot as opening day has historically been on a Saturday in the recent past, IIRC...

Here's a summary of what happened at ASMFC on Monday:

New York hasn't yet announced what its 2024 fluke, scup, and Hudson River striped bass regulations will look like, but recent actions at the ASMFC are finally providing some strong indications of what they will be.

This afternoon, a meeting of the Atlantic Striped Bass Management Board approved a narrower, 23- to 28-inch slot for Hudson River striped bass, with no change to the bag limit or season. Such slot is estimated to achieve a 14.9% reduction in landings. A 14.1% reduction was required.

The ASMFC combines Connecticut and New York into a single region for summer flounder management purposes. This year, that caused some issues, as Connecticut favored a smaller (19") minimum size, reduced (3-fish) bag, and shorter (essentially mid-May through mid-September) season while New York, largely driven by its for-hire and fishing tackle industries, favored a larger (19 1/2") minimum size, the current (4-fish) bag, and a far longer (April 1-October 31) season. After many negotiating sessions, the states forged a compromise which included a 19-inch minimum size for the period May 4-August 1, and a 19.5" minimum size for the period August 2-October 15, with a 3-fish bag limit throughout the season. Such regulations meet the required 28% reduction, and will very probably be adopted by both states,

The ASMFC combines New York into a region with Connecticut, Rhode Island, and Massachusetts for scup management. It appears that the minimum size for boat-based (including for-hire) anglers will increase from 10.5 to 11 inches, with no other changes to bag limit, seasons, or the shore-based size. Such size increase will achieve the required 10% reduction, and is virtually certain to be adopted.
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
pequa1
pequa1MOD2024#7
which is why I posted it as "probable" on another thread earlier
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,027 postsSince 2018
Snapprhead27
At least another month before we see anything solid.
Captain4,988 postsSince 2020
pequa1
pequa1MOD2024#9
You dare doubt me ? LOL ! I would gladly trade this disaster for two at 18 1/2 or a slot of two or three at 18 1/2 to 22 or 23.
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,027 postsSince 2018
Matts
MattsFREE2024#10
You dare doubt me ? LOL ! I would gladly trade this disaster for two at 18 1/2 or a slot of two or three at 18 1/2 to 22 or 23.
On my own boat, I do like to come home with at least two fish and could live with 2 at 18.5. How much fluke do I need to keep? But on a party/charter, I'd rather have 3 at 19.5, even 4 at 20.

I can still remember 14" and a thousand boats drifting under RMB all summer.
First MateOriginal Crew693 postsSince 2019
pequa1
pequa1MOD2024#11
With the exception of freshwater (license fee) I have never paid in order to fish but I can understand that reasoning. How many party boat customers come home with a limit every time ?
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,027 postsSince 2018
BoatGuy
BoatGuyFREE2024#12
I do not know how many times fluke fisherman have to catch 10 fluke to get a keeper. Sometimes even more.
Not sure what the survival of a hooked and released fish, especially if the fisherman does not handle the fish with care.
First MateOriginal Crew780 postsSince 2019
pequa1
pequa1MOD2024#13
Maybe because i put a Gulp! on a dressed bucktail (?) I had a total of 8 keepers out of just 3 dozen caught from the yak last year and all in the jaw. (No real bait used.)
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,027 postsSince 2018
hartattack
The Fluke regs that Pequa previously posted were approved by NY yesterday.
The split-season is a head-scratcher to me, and just like last year's NJ slot (now defunct) will be difficult to enforce.
And these regs remain in place for 2025 (MAFMC: Measures will be restricted to achieve the full 28% reduction in 2024 and then will remain unchanged in 2025 unless new information suggests a major change in the expected impacts of those measures on the stock or the fishery.)
==> https://dec.ny.gov/sites/default/files/2024-04/recreationalsaltwaterfishinglimits.pdf
First MateOriginal Crew282 postsSince 2018
Hunter704
Hunter704FREE2024#15
We be a repeat of last year playing catch and release with all short fish, with a keeper if you’re lucky
CaptainOriginal Crew2,748 postsSince 2019

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