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Do they think we're idiots!

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george
georgeADMIN2023#1
So the Admin is pushing to regulate boats 34-foot and over to run at 10 knots to avoid whale strikes. At the same time they using pile drivers to survey where to put these monstrosities.

Now we see 6 whales, some of which were feeding along our beaches all season long, wash up on the shores on NY and NJ. Of course, the industry is claiming it has nothing to do with it. But the timeline is clear and it's evident that the survey has somehow interrupted the migration of the only 300 right whales on the entire planet.

Needless to say the industry has denied any connection, but I've never been one to believe in coincidence. It's obvious that green energy is much more important than our marine environment. Somewhere on these boards, I had written on the fact that in an effort to save money they will be pile driving them into the sea bed.

That will require 3500 hits to get each windmill in the ground. Remember the blades are the same size as a 747 and they are 1000 feet high. There is so much to this, much of which spells the end of whales migrating along the coast.

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Compare the gey zone on the first pic to the whale migration in the blue zone. Does anyone believe that these endangered whales will survive this unprecedented attack on our oceans, sea beds, and bird life? Can they survive this wall of thousands of giant fans being pounded in from MA to SC?

Besides the fact that they keep trying to compare this to the Block Island windmills that had structure to fish. They are nothing alike. Those turbines are just 350 feet high and they're much closer inshore. They weren't pile driven they had a stand like set up. They didn't need to rip up 30-miles plus of the bottom.

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So as NMFS makes lobstermen in Maine take all kinds of safety precautions, and attempt to restrict all boats 34 feet or longer to run at just 10 knots, they are literally killing them right in front of our eyes. Wind power means more than our oceans, and I'm afraid of what's in store for the future of our coast.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,158 postsSince 2018
jpd
jpdMOD2023#2
I was listening to newsradio on the way back from lunch, latest NJ whale casualty was the 7th in the area in the last 39 days.

Conservation group wants them to halt the windmill construction until they figure out why this is happening.

CommodoreOriginal Crew9,821 postsSince 2018
george
georgeADMIN2023#3
I guess there was another that washed up. We are going to confirm that many of these majestic mammals are the same ones we have seen putting on shows for Long Islanders from the beaches, as well as starting a new whale-watching industry.

They need to halt all surveying. Mark my words they will blame it on something else when its clear this is the start of the end. That's the problem with the oceans, we can't really see what's happening
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,158 postsSince 2018
Avenger
AvengerFREE2023#4
We (and I mean the electorate, not us personally) keep electing the people pushing the radical agenda, so I guess they not only think we're idiots, they know.
CaptainOriginal Crew3,414 postsSince 2019
Roccus7
Roccus7MOD2023#5
The only "good" thing about this will be the autopsy results. IF a ship strike is causing the spate of deaths, it will certainly be evident. If it isn't, just can't wait for all the other supposed causes, and I'm guessing "Alien Attack" will be higher on the list than sonic causes...
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
longcast
longcastFREE2023#6
AdmiralOriginal Crew20,411 postsSince 2019
dsedy
dsedyFREE2023#7
I caught this segmenet last night, flipping the channels, on Tucker. Possible correlation to the survey work and sonar mapping for the offshore wind farms slated in NJ.

Think I looped this clip at the right time.





CommodoreOriginal Crew5,088 postsSince 2019
longcast
longcastFREE2023#8
I caught this segmenet last night, flipping the channels, on Tucker. Possible correlation to the survey work and sonar mapping for the offshore wind farms slated in NJ.

Think I looped this clip at the right time.





She bring out some interesting points.
AdmiralOriginal Crew20,411 postsSince 2019
george
georgeADMIN2023#9
The fate of our marine environment is once again in the hands of politicians. Does anyone believe any of them actually care? Other then for their own self interest? Where are the NY politicians? Those are the very whales that we have been watching feed right off of our shoreline.

These windmills are about to change the fabric of our oceans for decades to come. It's obvious they don't care that they are disrupting the marine environment, anglers, commercial fishermen, and mariners. They are setting up huge staging sites in coastal towns up and down the coast. In most cases the residents of these towns have no clue it's coming. I wonder how many residents of Port Jefferson know their wonderful town will be the host to one of these.

The saddest part of this is that there is no stopping it.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,158 postsSince 2018
movetheboat
As climate organizers plead for a federal investigation into whether offshore wind development is to blame for a series of whale strandings on the New York-New Jersey coastline, the question remains whether six dead whales in 33 days in the region is an alarmingly high figure.

The Marine Mammal Stranding Center, a non-profit organization — authorized by the state to rescue marine mammals and respond to whale strandings — released data Wednesday that indicates the state has seen an average of seven whale strandings each year between 2002 and Jan. 7, 2023.

SO YES...IT'S HIGH!! 6 IN 33days...compared to 7 a year
CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018
george
georgeADMIN2023#11
It's 7 dead now.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,158 postsSince 2018
Roccus7
Roccus7MOD2023#12
It's 7 dead now.
Has anyone seen the necropsy results on any of these whales? The silence is "deafening"...
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
movetheboat
So these whales are stranding on the beach and die or die out at sea and get washed up? Are these windmills screwing up their navigation system causing strandings?
CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018
george
georgeADMIN2023#14
So these whales are stranding on the beach and die or die out at sea and get washed up? Are these windmills screwing up their navigation system causing strandings?

We have yet to get any answers about anything. It does appear that the whales are washing up dead. Many environmentalists believe the pounding on the bottom during windmill survey operations are interrupting the whales ability to navigate.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,158 postsSince 2018
Leprechaun
6 dead whales on the beach?

Number 7 looks like it might be in its death spiral ->

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CaptainOriginal Crew2,210 postsSince 2018
Hunter704
Hunter704FREE2023#16
absolutely crazy that this many whales have died, I mean there was always that once in a while you would here about a dead whale but 7 that’s disturbing
CaptainOriginal Crew2,748 postsSince 2019
OVERBORED
OVERBOREDFREE2023#17
From 2019
Captain4,156 postsSince 2021
movetheboat
If these whales are washing up dead and not dying on the beach from stranding then it is possible many more are dying that don't wash up.
CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018
george
georgeADMIN2023#19
Here's a report on the 7th whale.

a necropsy performed by members of the Marine Mammal Stranding Center (MMSC) alongside other nonprofit marine groups, found that the whale had been hit on the head, top of its spine, right side of its body and part of its flipper. The injuries are consistent with being struck by a vessel, the Brigantine-based standing center announced on Facebook.

Curious that this would be the first necropsy done. Wouldn't strike wounds be found quickly?
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,158 postsSince 2018
george
georgeADMIN2023#20
If these whales are washing up dead and not dying on the beach from stranding then it is possible many more are dying that don't wash up.
I agree. How many are eaten by sharks before they make it to land? There was evidence of that on the 7th whale that washed up.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,158 postsSince 2018
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