Should NY have a Minimum Property Tax that homeowners have to pay ?

Sure. More taxes.. That will fix everything.

You're kind of doing the Warren Buffet thing, complaining that you're not paying enough because your secretary pays more taxes than you instead of asking why your secretary's taxes are so high.

Careful what you wish for.

That could all change once Mamdani chases wall Street out of NYC

Careful what you wish for.

That could all change once Mamdani chases wall Street out of NYC

Moving companies are already booked. Companies not so quietly leaving NYC and setting up in business friendly states.

Sure. More taxes.. That will fix everything.

You're kind of doing the Warren Buffet thing, complaining that you're not paying enough because your secretary pays more taxes than you instead of asking why your secretary's taxes are so high.

The whole point of a minimum property tax Would be to even out the tax burden and get a tax reduction in downstate NY. More State Aid would come our way and school taxes would go down. My property taxes upstate are half school and half county and local, both tax bills are about the same amount. Down on Long Island my school tax is almost twice what the county and local tax bill is. And what's so irritating to see, my upstate NY tax bill has gone down . Down here they get around the tax cap by just increasing the assessed value. Cap the Property taxes Senior Citizens pay at half the normal tax.Seniors have paid taxes all the years they've lived in the house and have no children going to school.

The whole point of a minimum property tax Would be to even out the tax burden and get a tax reduction in downstate NY. More State Aid would come our way and school taxes would go down. My property taxes upstate are half school and half county and local, both tax bills are about the same amount. Down on Long Island my school tax is almost twice what the county and local tax bill is. And what's so irritating to see, my upstate NY tax bill has gone down . Down here they get around the tax cap by just increasing the assessed value. Cap the Property taxes Senior Citizens pay at half the normal tax.Seniors have paid taxes all the years they've lived in the house and have no children going to school.

No!!!! We all choose where we live and there are pros and cons to that choice . We’re assessed at 800,000 and pay 2,800 , Southampton school district . In Hampton Bays the same house would be assessed at 650,000 and pay around 6,500. Tuckahoe would assess at 800,000 and pay 10,000. Choices my good man

Yeah, I'm still struggling to see how this makes things fair. We have Public sector unions here where our teachers and police are making six-figure salaries, and the population density is huge.

How us hammering the lower income/opportunity communities that don't demand so much from government is reasonable escapes me.

State School aid plays a big role in how much a school district taxes are. Southampton school salaries are just as high as school salaries in Nassau County, what Southampton has more of are migrant workers who work the farms out there and the summer residents out in Southampton have lobbied the state over the years and gotten more state aid than they deserve. More School Aid is sent to less affluent districts and more affluent districts get less school aid. But not everybody in an affluent district is wealthy, they bought homes years ago when they were dirt cheap and the homes greatly appreciated over the years. Many of them are on fixed incomes. When I say Affluent I mean middle class Long Islander , not some North Shore millionaire. The State discriminates against people like that in middle class districts , the same person living in a less affluent district, with the same Pension, Social Security pays much less property tax. Don't tell me to move , it's my home .
All over upstate NY there's people paying less than $1500 property tax. Just doesn't seem fair, obviously their $1500 property tax aren't paying the school/county /local taxes up there. Somebody else is. Newsday had a big story about the dreadful school aid formula years ago. If the State School Aid was distributed evenly my taxes would be much less. 2/3 of my tax bill goes to the schools and 1/3 to the county/local government. Upstate NY , my property tax bill is half school and half county /local government.
You call the Police Upstate, more often than not you'll see a NYS Trooper or a State Conservation Officer show up. You'd never see them come to a home on Long Island to investigate a routine police matter.

Well, you'll certainly get no disagreement from me that our socialist/progressivist run state distributes aid unfairly. And I wonder how those migrants are chipping in to fund the education of their children while they earn their money in Southampton. Price of living in a sanctuary state? Or maybe they won't be back next summer dragging on the system under the current administration. We'll see.

But, once again you're making the Warren Buffet argument. Maybe make the upstate residents hire and fund their own union police forces to even things out, with parity and arbitration as part of their contract negotiations.

Make them hire more schoot administrators and math and language coordinators to get their common-core state test scores up to justify their bigger share of the funding.

Point is, we should be looking more at how they keep things affordable up there instead of following the corrupt model we have here and finding more ways to take people's money to feed the insatiable monster of big government.

State School aid plays a big role in how much a school district taxes are. Southampton school salaries are just as high as school salaries in Nassau County, what Southampton has more of are migrant workers who work the farms out there and the summer residents out in Southampton have lobbied the state over the years and gotten more state aid than they deserve. More School Aid is sent to less affluent districts and more affluent districts get less school aid. But not everybody in an affluent district is wealthy, they bought homes years ago when they were dirt cheap and the homes greatly appreciated over the years. Many of them are on fixed incomes. When I say Affluent I mean middle class Long Islander , not some North Shore millionaire. The State discriminates against people like that in middle class districts , the same person living in a less affluent district, with the same Pension, Social Security pays much less property tax. Don't tell me to move , it's my home .
All over upstate NY there's people paying less than $1500 property tax. Just doesn't seem fair, obviously their $1500 property tax aren't paying the school/county /local taxes up there. Somebody else is. Newsday had a big story about the dreadful school aid formula years ago. If the State School Aid was distributed evenly my taxes would be much less. 2/3 of my tax bill goes to the schools and 1/3 to the county/local government. Upstate NY , my property tax bill is half school and half county /local government.
You call the Police Upstate, more often than not you'll see a NYS Trooper or a State Conservation Officer show up. You'd never see them come to a home on Long Island to investigate a routine police matter.

Incorrect Sir. The reason our school taxes are low here is simple: there are any , many homes assessed at 10,000,000 + , they pay the same percentage of assessed value as the rest of us and pay the lion’s share. Nothing to do with migrant labor or lobbying for State aid. Choices ! No one forced you to purchase a home with exorbitant taxes. God bless the billionaires.

Incorrect Sir. The reason our school taxes are low here is simple: there are any , many homes assessed at 10,000,000 + , they pay the same percentage of assessed value as the rest of us and pay the lion’s share. Nothing to do with migrant labor or lobbying for State aid. Choices ! No one forced you to purchase a home with exorbitant taxes. God bless the billionaires.

Exactly

The more I think about it, the concept you bring up Pangaroo is similar to our Federal tax system. “Wealthier” states like NY, MA, CT, CA, IL, etc pay and contribute way mote than we get back and instead our contributions go and support “poorer” states like AR, MS, WV, KY, TN, etc. I’ll never understand why peeps love to complain and piss and moan about our NY taxes but don’t make more noise about whats going on at the federal level. If we got back our fair share of what we contribute on the national level it would take lots of pressure off our state and local level burdens

Once you realize all the progressive initiatives YOUR tax dollars fund in this once great empire state you might not want to pay taxes at all.

Once you realize all the progressive initiatives YOUR tax dollars fund in this once great empire state you might not want to pay taxes at all.

Again, if our federal dollars weren’t going right to poor red states we would have a surplus and it would not be as big of a burden

Good thing the OP on how NYS should apportion the tax burden was not political! lol

Again, if our federal dollars weren’t going right to poor red states we would have a surplus and it would not be as big of a burden

Here we go again. 🙄

People who make these statements are at best misunderstanding how the federal government receives revenue and makes expenditures, but more likely misrepresenting it to make a bogus case.

1. States do not pay the federal government.

2. The federal government does not "distribute" money to the states.

Pretending that is the case tries to make the argument that there is some kind of federal welfare program that redistributes wealth like Robinhood, which is the only example I can think of where the left doesn't favor wealth redistribution. Actually no, they never favor it when it's their own wealth.

The short answer to the problem is that if blue states want more of their money back, they need to enact programs and policies that cause the feds to spend more money in their state. Most of these things are antithetical to blue state ideology.

Again, if our federal dollars weren’t going right to poor red states we would have a surplus and it would not be as big of a burden

FYI -This thread was supposed to be a discussion on property taxes. The Federal government does not collect property taxes.

FYI -This thread was supposed to be a discussion on property taxes. The Federal government does not collect property taxes.

Its all intertwined
Can’t discuss it without looking at the big picture
If some some peeps wanna bury their heads in the sand so they can bitch and moan about how bad it is here in NY well I guess they can have at it 👍

I just think there should be a minimum property tax everybody in NY has to pay so it evens things out a bit. Newsday had an article years ago about the crazy state aid distribution in this state that heavily subsidizes counties upstate. Both Nassau and Suffolk Counties should have an income tax and a property tax to fund schools and local Government like NYC and Yonkers have.

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Here we go again. :rolleyes:

People who make these statements are at best misunderstanding how the federal government receives revenue and makes expenditures, but more likely misrepresenting it to make a bogus case.

1. States do not pay the federal government.

2. The federal government does not "distribute" money to the states.

Pretending that is the case tries to make the argument that there is some kind of federal welfare program that redistributes wealth like Robinhood, which is the only example I can think of where the left doesn't favor wealth redistribution. Actually no, they never favor it when it's their own wealth.

The short answer to the problem is that if blue states want more of their money back, they need to enact programs and policies that cause the feds to spend more money in their state. Most of these things are antithetical to blue state ideology.

WTF does here we go again mean???
Misunderstanding? Baafuckinghaa🤣🤣🤣

I understand more than you know I do
All tax dollars we pay at all levels are completely intertwined
The federal government absolutely gives more money to poor red states that it gives back to NY
You seem to MISUNDERSTANDING my point and appear to be suggesting NY should put even more people on welfare and medicaid to get more back from the federal government 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Go ahead, and ignore the big picture so you can whine how bad NY is
Hell, go ahead and move to West Virginia 😎😎