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Unlimited Sand and Money Still Won’t Save the Hamptons:

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dsedy
dsedyFREE2021#1
This is from Bloomberg. Good read and amazing graphics.




CommodoreOriginal Crew5,088 postsSince 2019
Chinacat
ChinacatFREE2021#2
Interesting
It strikes a nerve with us middle class locals.
When dune road in Westhampton got breached in the '90's many of us were all for filling in the breach to protect low lying areas and homes on the bayside. LOTS of federal and government $$ went back to rebuilding the beach only to have the rich folks screw us and take possession of what mother nature took away from them.
Peeps made a killing re-selling the rebuilt beach and we were given little access to it.
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,060 postsSince 2018
dsedy
dsedyFREE2021#3
Interesting
It strikes a nerve with us middle class locals.
When dune road in Westhampton got breached in the '90's many of us were all for filling in the breach to protect low lying areas and homes on the bayside. LOTS of federal and government $$ went back to rebuilding the beach only to have the rich folks screw us and take possession of what mother nature took away from them.
Peeps made a killing re-selling the rebuilt beach and we were given little access to it.
Rightfully so China. I would be PO'd too.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,088 postsSince 2019
dsedy
dsedyFREE2021#4
I think what the Army Corp of Engineers is doing along the whole stretch from Fire Island eastward is pretty amazing, and a huge task. The visual representations in the article are very well done.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,088 postsSince 2019
Chinacat
ChinacatFREE2021#5
I am all for protecting it properly as long as there is public access.
I agree, it is pretty impressive
Quite honestly, as a resident of the Town of Southampton, we are lucky to have our share of access to ocean beaches and boat ramps with a paid parking permit of course!!
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,060 postsSince 2018
CELLFISH
CELLFISHFREE2021#6
stabilizing the inlets wit boulders after hurricanes, rather than allowing mother nature to heal its wounds is the problem in the first place... ya gotta live wit these manmade crises and keep pumpin da doe... cellfish...
CommodoreOriginal Crew18,289 postsSince 2019
C
why is anyone surprised ?Who feeds the politicians ?
CaptainOriginal Crew1,185 postsSince 2019
longcast
longcastFREE2021#8
Interesting
It strikes a nerve with us middle class locals.
When dune road in Westhampton got breached in the '90's many of us were all for filling in the breach to protect low lying areas and homes on the bayside. LOTS of federal and government $$ went back to rebuilding the beach only to have the rich folks screw us and take possession of what mother nature took away from them.
Peeps made a killing re-selling the rebuilt beach and we were given little access to it.
"many of us were all for filling in the breach to protect low lying areas and homes on the bayside."

That was the fear put into minds of those along the bay for the support needed by those with oceanfront homes. They needed YOUR money for THEIR lifestyle. Look at the new inlet west of the SMB. Any issues, absolutely, a cleaner bay and a variety of species now making it their home. Spent quite a bit of time there in the skinny water during the spring / early summer and had a blast. Friends of mine live right there in Brookhaven, not one complaint of water being any higher during storms. Same levels, just got there faster, but receded faster with the inlet acting as the drain.

Long Island is basically a sandbar. And sandbars change every day!!
AdmiralOriginal Crew20,411 postsSince 2019
Avenger
AvengerFREE2021#9
"many of us were all for filling in the breach to protect low lying areas and homes on the bayside."

That was the fear put into minds of those along the bay for the support needed by those with oceanfront homes. They needed YOUR money for THEIR lifestyle. Look at the new inlet west of the SMB. Any issues, absolutely, a cleaner bay and a variety of species now making it their home. Spent quite a bit of time there in the skinny water during the spring / early summer and had a blast. Friends of mine live right there in Brookhaven, not one complaint of water being any higher during storms. Same levels, just got there faster, but receded faster with the inlet acting as the drain.

Long Island is basically a sandbar. And sandbars change every day!!

This is exactly where I exist.

Did not see the kind of tides and disparity before the extra breach in the barrier beach.

The enviros will tell you it's climate change. Funny how this decades-long process just suddenly manifested itself in the wake of one storm and a new inlet to the bay. How convenient.

But hey, the water is so much cleaner now!

It won't be clean when it's in your living room during a hurricane because you chose glittering water over the protection of that barrier beach.

It's your house. You pays your money, and you takes your choice.
CaptainOriginal Crew3,414 postsSince 2019
CELLFISH
CELLFISHFREE2021#10
Let’s not forget da ROCKAWAYS… “ total disaster “if the upfront residence had to pay for replenishment, not anyone would live there… it’s a constant expensive loosing battle being paid at federal & state level, just as horrible as anything… cellfish…
CommodoreOriginal Crew18,289 postsSince 2019
Chinacat
ChinacatFREE2021#11
"many of us were all for filling in the breach to protect low lying areas and homes on the bayside."

That was the fear put into minds of those along the bay for the support needed by those with oceanfront homes. They needed YOUR money for THEIR lifestyle. Look at the new inlet west of the SMB. Any issues, absolutely, a cleaner bay and a variety of species now making it their home. Spent quite a bit of time there in the skinny water during the spring / early summer and had a blast. Friends of mine live right there in Brookhaven, not one complaint of water being any higher during storms. Same levels, just got there faster, but receded faster with the inlet acting as the drain.

Long Island is basically a sandbar. And sandbars change every day!!
No that had nothing to do with being brainwashed by the peeps on dune road or politicians
It was based on first hand observations and opinions of people I know with houses on senix and west senix creek in center moriches
The breach in westhampton wad WAY bigger and extensive than old inlet. Beach much narrower and was growing
You ever hear of a place called cupsogue beach??? ?
It would have been lost
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,060 postsSince 2018
longcast
longcastFREE2021#12
No that had nothing to do with being brainwashed by the peeps on dune road or politicians
It was based on first hand observations and opinions of people I know with houses on senix and west senix creek in center moriches
The breach in westhampton wad WAY bigger and extensive than old inlet. Beach much narrower and was growing
You ever hear of a place called cupsogue beach??? ?
It would have been lost
Like washed away? We were still fishing that stretch all the way to the east jetty. Just had to navigate in a small tin boat to get there. Night time was the most difficult. And we were pretty much alone. Some great fishing memories were made for the small group we fished with. No crowds. Those were the days. And the fluke we caught were amazing. Now. Not much at all along that back stretch.
AdmiralOriginal Crew20,411 postsSince 2019
Chinacat
ChinacatFREE2021#13
Like washed away? We were still fishing the east jetty. Just had to navigate in a small tin boat to get there. Night time was the most difficult. And we were pretty much alone. Some great fishing memories were made for the small group we fished with. No crowds. Those were the days.
LOL
Cupsogue island
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,060 postsSince 2018
longcast
longcastFREE2021#14
LOL
Cupsogue island
And now……No parking. No beach access. No anything. Fishing along either side of that breach was incredible. But thanks for your money rebuilding for the select few. Gotcha.
AdmiralOriginal Crew20,411 postsSince 2019
Chinacat
ChinacatFREE2021#15
And now……No parking. No beach access. No anything. Fishing along either side of that breach was incredible. But thanks for your money rebuilding for the select few. Gotcha.
You’re way off base suggesting I’m supportive of the rich folks benefiting from this
Go back and read my first post on the subject nice and slow
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,060 postsSince 2018
longcast
longcastFREE2021#16
Was not directed towards you at all. Please do not take it that way.
AdmiralOriginal Crew20,411 postsSince 2019
OVERBORED
OVERBOREDFREE2021#17
This is wonderful news!

As a state healthcare worker who still hasn't received a penny of hazard pay,
Who now has to work extra hours due to collegues being fired for not complying with state mandates...

I'm very happy east enders will have a beach to play on in the years to come!

God bless America!?
Captain4,156 postsSince 2021
Roccus7
Roccus7MOD2021#18
Long Island is basically a sandbar. And sandbars change every day!!
It's your house. You pays your money, and you takes your choice.

Not to pick at nits, but in Geological Terms Long Island is A Glacial Sh*tpile, a Terminal Moraine deposited by the Laurentide Ice Sheet of the Ice Age. The South Shore is the "sandbar", being a Barrier Beach.

Regardless, Barrier Beaches are inherently unstable, subject to the whims of Mother Nature, and there's the rub since stabilizing/replenishing a barrier beach is a never ending, and expensive exercise. Who should foot the bill for these projects? The people that live there, the State or the Federal Government so farmers in Iowa can subsidize the Lifestyle of the Rich and Famous??
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
CELLFISH
CELLFISHFREE2021#19
many years ago, we booked a seaside resort in MEXICO., At da waterline, the Hotel separated the property by MINI ROCK JETTIES, 10' 15' or so if i recall... the lounge chairs on da sand were being cramped near eachother for any remaining sand... because of my Civil Engineering studies at West Hampton (lol), obvious to me, the erosion and pooling at those points were the concern...

note: da Tides & Currents in that resort town are not nearly as swift and strong as here on da North East... CAPE COD is perhaps even more natural & noticeable too of shifting sand... cellfish...
CommodoreOriginal Crew18,289 postsSince 2019
pequa1
pequa1MOD2021#20
2 blocks north of Merrick Road here. I figure my descendants will have waterfront.
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,027 postsSince 2018
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