2nd body of missing kayaker found

Some reports indicated they were wearing heavy winter clothes and no lifejackets. Windy and water in the 50°s. Suicide pact ? Did they own the kayaks ? I myself have never not worn a PFD and I now only kayak fish the back bay and not 100 yards from a dock. While some paddlers enjoy the colder months, not me !

Never ascribe to malice what can be explained by stupidity.

They probably just had no idea what the risks were.

Maybe the government can mandate a safety class and name it after them.

I'm kidding. There's no shortage of information available for them to learn about kayaking. All they had to do was look.

Politics notwithstanding, it really sucks that these guys were failed on so many levels. From whoever sold them the equipment and their own failure to educate themselves and everything in-between.

Steep price for ignorance. 🙁

Hopefully bereaved family are not on the site, but... two Darwin awards.

Sounds like a highly intoxicated episode to me.

Found kayak in garage
Hey let's go kayaking
Went out in calm area
Ended up by bridge
Strong current
Started panicking
Kayak tips.............

If so, I suppose its fortunate the two idiots didn't murder any innocents driving drunk there.

I thought there was a new law (rule?) that Nov 1st, boats under 21 feet mandate the use of life jackets. I was concerned knowing how much clothing I wear in these cold months. I know there is no way I could swim with all the layers. I purchased a Type V PFD one piece full body life jacket. It is warm, but bulky. Out in a center console, there is not much protection when its cold.

There is:
Cold Weather Boaters: Anyone underway in a boat less than21 feet in length anytime between November 1 and May 1 must wear a securely fastened life jacket. This includes canoes, kayaks, rowboats andmotorboats Commercial vessels are exempt. .NYS Nav. Law Section 40.1(e).

Of course these two were stupid enough or high to go out in winter coats on a windy day in 50° water...

I know of several baymen who died through the years. While clamming, scalloping in winter, they slipped and fell overboard, hitting their heads, knocked unconscious and drowned. They would be living if they wore a life vest!

If you fish alone a life vest is a must regardless of time of the year.

I know of several baymen who died through the years. While clamming, scalloping in winter, they slipped and fell overboard, hitting their heads, knocked unconscious and drowned. They would be living if they wore a life vest!

If you fish alone a life vest is a must regardless of time of the year.

I started kayaking in 2005. Kayak fishermen invariably wear one. It's the "plain" paddlers and often kids and their parents who might be seen without them.

I thought there was a new law (rule?) that Nov 1st, boats under 21 feet mandate the use of life jackets. I was concerned knowing how much clothing I wear in these cold months. I know there is no way I could swim with all the layers. I purchased a Type V PFD one piece full body life jacket. It is warm, but bulky. Out in a center console, there is not much protection when its cold.

Does anyone know if the type V PFD one piece full body life jacket meets the requirement?

If so, I suppose its fortunate the two idiots didn't murder any innocents driving drunk there.

That’s a bit harsh dude

I have a thing about drunk driving but I prefaced that with “if.” I didn’t see anything other than another member’s supposition herein.

Does anyone know if the type V PFD one piece full body life jacket meets the requirement?

Type V PFD’s are designed for specific activities, and therefore may, or may not, be suitable, or meet the standards of either the old Type III or newer designation Level 70 both of which are U.S.C.G. approved. Type V should state on the label the activities for which it has been U.S.C.G. Approved.

Has anyone seen or purchased an unapproved life jacket?

I've never seen one

Has anyone seen or purchased an unapproved life jacket?

I've never seen one

AI Overview

Yes, you can purchase a non-Coast Guard (non-USCG) PFD, but you should be aware of its limitations and legal requirements. These vests, often called impact vests or competition vests, are designed for activities like wakeboarding or kayaking and provide buoyancy and impact protection but are not approved as a life-saving device for meeting boating regulations. You must still carry the legally required number of USCG-approved PFDs on your boat to meet legal requirements.

You can also purchase non Coast Guard approved throwable’s, fire extinguishers, and other life saving items.

Does anyone else feel a little suspicious or doubtful about accepting all the AI stuff?

Does anyone else feel a little suspicious or doubtful about accepting all the AI stuff?

I do, however to my knowledge the AI PFD information I posted appears correct to me.

So "types" became "levels" ? Once I sold my last boat I havent't been paying attention. Hopefully what SWMBO and I have for the kayaks are legal, not like the bay constables around my area would have a clue. I had to school one of them on weakfish and striper regs !

https://www.dco.uscg.mil/CG-ENG-4/PFD/

So "types" became "levels" ? Once I sold my last boat I havent't been paying attention. Hopefully what SWMBO and I have for the kayaks are legal, not like the bay constables around my area would have a clue. I had to school one of them on weakfish and striper regs !

Correct, “Types” became “Levels” and the old “Types” are still good to use provided they are in good condition.