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Chinese Outboard Motors

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PangarooFREE2021#1
I'm looking around for a 4 Stroke 60 HP Outboard Motor and right now I have a good deal on a Tohatsu with a Tiller . $7500 installed with the tiller Arm. I might go with Suzuki if I find a better price. Great motors with great warranties. I looked on Alibaba for a cheap Chinese Engine and some were really good. Hangkai , Parsuns and Hidau are close to entering the US Market like Tohatsu did years ago. Just look at all the Hangkai's on Ebay and you see how close they are to establishing themselves in the US. Why is Hangkai still selling 2 strokes in America ??? I inquired about a 40 HP and they seemed eager to ship a 2 stroke to the US no problem .Hangkai 40 HP- $2500 shipped to the US. Hangkai Reviews are pretty positive. I saw 60 HP 2 Stroke Parsuns and they won't ship them to the US. I looked at Hangkai and Yamabisi for a 40 HP and they would ship 2 strokes to America. I spent weeks looking at Chinese outboards, some with crazy names like Lingxuan or SeaWalker, Twin Sun, Calon ? Farrow . The Russians and Ukrainians like Yamabisi outboards. I inquired about a 60 HP 2 stroke Yamabisi and the company recommended that I buy the 40HP , the 60 HP wasn't as stable as the 40HP. The 60 HP was $1700 plus a $1000 freight. Good for a Mechanic, not for the average boater who doesn't know how to fix an outboard. The 2 strokes are probably the safest bet because it's older Yamaha tech. and the parts are really inexpensive . Who knows about the 4 strokes? Who are they copying ? I'd take off the Motor Stickers before I went to the launching ramp with a Chinese engine. The whole marina/boat ramp would laugh at me if I had a Lingxuan on the back of my boat. Anybody have any experiences with a Chinese outboard Motor ?
First Mate701 postsSince 2021
BennyV
BennyVFREE2021#2
I'm looking around for a 4 Stroke 60 HP Outboard Motor and right now I have a good deal on a Tohatsu with a Tiller . $7500 installed with the tiller Arm. I might go with Suzuki if I find a better price. Great motors with great warranties. I looked on Alibaba for a cheap Chinese Engine and some were really good. Hangkai , Parsuns and Hidau are close to entering the US Market like Tohatsu did years ago. Just look at all the Hangkai's on Ebay and you see how close they are to establishing themselves in the US. Why is Hangkai still selling 2 strokes in America ??? I inquired about a 40 HP and they seemed eager to ship a 2 stroke to the US no problem .Hangkai 40 HP- $2500 shipped to the US. Hangkai Reviews are pretty positive. I saw 60 HP 2 Stroke Parsuns and they won't ship them to the US. I looked at Hangkai and Yamabisi for a 40 HP and they would ship 2 strokes to America. I spent weeks looking at Chinese outboards, some with crazy names like Lingxuan or SeaWalker, Twin Sun, Calon ? Farrow . The Russians and Ukrainians like Yamabisi outboards. I inquired about a 60 HP 2 stroke Yamabisi and the company recommended that I buy the 40HP , the 60 HP wasn't as stable as the 40HP. The 60 HP was $1700 plus a $1000 freight. Good for a Mechanic, not for the average boater who doesn't know how to fix an outboard. The 2 strokes are probably the safest bet because it's older Yamaha tech. and the parts are really inexpensive . Who knows about the 4 strokes? Who are they copying ? I'd take off the Motor Stickers before I went to the launching ramp with a Chinese engine. The whole marina/boat ramp would laugh at me if I had a Lingxuan on the back of my boat. Anybody have any experiences with a Chinese outboard Motor ?
I have no experience but at that price I’m interested.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,665 postsSince 2018
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PangarooFREE2021#3
Australia gets very good deals on the Cheap outboards from China . and they can legally buy 2 strokes ! $1700 plus $200 shipping for a Yamabisi 60HP 2 stroke is amazing if you can fix them. Yamabisi has a dealer there and they probably service the engines also. So tempting !
First Mate701 postsSince 2021
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chunksterFREE2021#4
I would never skimp on the motor. Just to be on the safe side.
Make sure you have a set of oars with you, besides sea tow
and your radio/phone and obviously a visual of your location.
You're looking for trouble.
Captain1,969 postsSince 2020
OVERBORED
OVERBOREDFREE2021#5
Caveat Emptor!!
Captain4,156 postsSince 2021
Roccus7
Roccus7MOD2021#6
If the unavailability of parts and/or service doesn't override your desire to save money, have at it...
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
Leprechaun
I couldn't agree more with Chunkster's post, as well as the following two. The ocean is too dangerous a place to be messing around with sub-par power plants.

Imagine losing power while transiting a nasty Inlet, with a wind against tide situation piling them up? Best to be sure your Life Insurance premiums are up to date.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,210 postsSince 2018
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PangarooFREE2021#8
I couldn't agree more with Chunkster's post, as well as the following two. The ocean is too dangerous a place to be messing around with sub-par power plants.

Imagine losing power while transiting a nasty Inlet, with a wind against tide situation piling them up? Best to be sure your Life Insurance premiums are up to date.
Exactly why I'm buying a Tohatsu 60. I've gone thru Jones Inlet hundreds of times with a 32 foot Downeaster and it still makes me nervous as hell. I even ran aground in Jones Inlet one time before they dredged on the East side. Maybe I'll buy a small one for a trolling motor.
First Mate701 postsSince 2021
Leprechaun
I run JI every single trip in my Shamrock 26 - its become a real "S-show" the past 5 or so seasons. Mis-time a wave set and your knees will feel light for the next couple of hours. I've had the crap scared out of me more than once in that nightmare inlet.

And that includes a rouge wave hitting me dead-nuts on the bow as I was heading outbound, burying it in a solid wall of green water. Only happened that one time, and my bow has plenty of designed-in lift, so up it came. But I can tell you, looking thru the windshields into a solid wall of water is a very scary experience. Frankly, I was surprised the windshields didn't blow in. Very surprised, as the boat about stopped dead from the impact.

No friggin' way would I want anything but the most reliable of engines in any kind of similar situation. Chinese motors? Yeah, umm, no. . .
CaptainOriginal Crew2,210 postsSince 2018
Tigashrk
TigashrkFREE2021#10
I won’t even eat Chinese food anymore, but that’s me.
First MateOriginal Crew689 postsSince 2019
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chunksterFREE2021#11
This is such a pain in the backside.
40 HP is a big motor for a tiller.




Captain1,969 postsSince 2020
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chunksterFREE2021#12
This is a royal kick in the shorts!


Captain1,969 postsSince 2020
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PangarooFREE2021#13
This is such a pain in the backside.
40 HP is a big motor for a tiller.




I'm buying a 60 HP tiller to use on a 25 Foot Panga Boat. Spellmans Marine out in Shinnecock has a beautiful 25 Foot Panga in the basement showroom- Gray Color. Just Beautiful. I'm buying a 25 Foot Eduardono with just the deck installed for a ridiculous $13,000. Freight included. South Shore Panga is the dealer out in Hampton Bays. 70 HP pushes it about 30 knots, maybe 20-22 with a 60.
First Mate701 postsSince 2021
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PangarooFREE2021#14
I run JI every single trip in my Shamrock 26 - its become a real "S-show" the past 5 or so seasons. Mis-time a wave set and your knees will feel light for the next couple of hours. I've had the crap scared out of me more than once in that nightmare inlet.

And that includes a rouge wave hitting me dead-nuts on the bow as I was heading outbound, burying it in a solid wall of green water. Only happened that one time, and my bow has plenty of designed-in lift, so up it came. But I can tell you, looking thru the windshields into a solid wall of water is a very scary experience. Frankly, I was surprised the windshields didn't blow in. Very surprised, as the boat about stopped dead from the impact.

No friggin' way would I want anything but the most reliable of engines in any kind of similar situation. Chinese motors? Yeah, umm, no. . .
It's terrifying going thru that inlet with big waves breaking and then you watch it get shallow very fast on your depthfinder and panic. A big wall of white water broadsided my 32 foot boat and pushed the boat on it's side. So terrifying.
First Mate701 postsSince 2021
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chunksterFREE2021#15




You're going to need one of these. That's a big dug out.


Captain1,969 postsSince 2020
Roccus7
Roccus7MOD2021#16
This is probably a STUPID, OT question from North Shore boy who has only been in/out of Shinnecock, Moriches and Fire Island Inlets, but if Jones Inlet is so bad, is the close by East Rockaway Inlet a viable and safe Plan B?? It's only 5 miles away?
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
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PangarooFREE2021#17
They call that Debs inlet and I'll go thru that inlet if I fish Ambrose channel and it's horrible weather. . But it's the long ride down Reynolds channel with 5 mile an our speed limits in certain areas that makes people use the ocean if they can.
First Mate701 postsSince 2021
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chunksterFREE2021#18
Rockaway Inlet is just as rough as any other inlet. Breezy point jetty
needs to be rebuilt. Compared to the west end 2 jetty. I will not even
consider it a jetty.

The Irony of it all. The kid worked on a party boat as a mate.
His father decides to bring him to the Breezy Point Jetty fishing.
The kid falls in and gets swept away. It just happens the party
boat the kid worked on sees what happened and attempts to
rescue the kid. The kid gets swept away and drowns. One of
many Breezy Point Jetty stories.
Captain1,969 postsSince 2020
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PangarooFREE2021#19
They should make everybody wear a life vest if they fish on a jetty and anybody who swims at the beach. Every year the same horror stories. What's so bad about wearing a life vest when you swim in the ocean ? I'd have a much better time not worrying about being swept away in an undertow.
First Mate701 postsSince 2021
Leprechaun
So East Rockaway Inlet, more commonly known as Debs Inlet is a safer bet than JI, that's for sure. Last time I was thru there, and this was several years ago, you had to make a hard turn to starboard right where the waves were breaking. Wasn't so wild about that. Again, this was some time ago, it might be totally different now.

And Pangaroo is right, that's one looong ride down Reynolds Channel, coming back from the West. Roccus - its not 5 miles, its more like 7 when you take all the twists and turns into account getting home to Jones on the inside. I've done it, and its a welcome relief from a miserable ocean, but it IS a long ride at slow speed, that's for sure. Not to mention getting the Wreck Lead Railroad Bridge to open in any kind of decent amount of time.

The one saving grace is steaming past Capt. Rick/Miss Beryl's house and seeing his beautiful RP 32 up on its hoist, looking all pretty and stuff. it almost makes the trip worth it. Almost. . .
CaptainOriginal Crew2,210 postsSince 2018
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