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They have to stock winter flounder to bring them back

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PangarooFREE2021#1
A school of flounder won't swim from another state and repopulate Long Island Bays with flounder again. Winter flounder #'s went down too far and the seals, commorants , striped bass keep the population from rebounding. Raise millions of flounder to 6 inchs and release them into the bay, Ban bay nets, and commercial fishing anywhere they summer. They transported striped bass out to San Francisco in 1879 and built a striped bass population out there, so NY can stock flounder and bring them back. If flounder swam in the Great Lakes they'd fix the problem right away. Remember the days when you caught flounder in Reynolds channel in May when they were migrating out the bay ? Or anchoring in the Inlet at slack tide and one flounder after another ? Cod, fluke, whiting and ling all disappeared around the same time, so it was overfishing.
First Mate701 postsSince 2021
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holtyFREE2021#2
Your idea may have some merit. Those late March-early April flounder trips are sorely missed. I would also like to see an open season to harvest commorants.

regards Holty
MateOriginal Crew107 postsSince 2018
BennyV
BennyVFREE2021#3
A school of flounder won't swim from another state and repopulate Long Island Bays with flounder again. Winter flounder #'s went down too far and the seals, commorants , striped bass keep the population from rebounding. Raise millions of flounder to 6 inchs and release them into the bay, Ban bay nets, and commercial fishing anywhere they summer. They transported striped bass out to San Francisco in 1879 and built a striped bass population out there, so NY can stock flounder and bring them back. If flounder swam in the Great Lakes they'd fix the problem right away. Remember the days when you caught flounder in Reynolds channel in May when they were migrating out the bay ? Or anchoring in the Inlet at slack tide and one flounder after another ? Cod, fluke, whiting and ling all disappeared around the same time, so it was overfishing.
Wasn’t there a guy on the east end of LI that was basically doing something similar and they shut him down?
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,665 postsSince 2018
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PangarooFREE2021#4
That was Arnold Leo. I remember that. Why can't they try it ? I hope I see flounder again in my lifetime.
First Mate701 postsSince 2021
Roccus7
Roccus7MOD2021#5
Your idea may have some merit. Those late March-early April flounder trips are sorely missed. I would also like to see an open season to harvest commorants.

regards Holty
One problem, WTH would even consider eating a cormorant???
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
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PangarooFREE2021#6
The DEC said they worry about disease, but they stock all over upstate and the State of New Hampshire is trying to stock flounder.
First Mate701 postsSince 2021
Snapprhead27
Can't tell you the last time I caught one. Not worth trying for them on party boats anymore.
Captain4,988 postsSince 2020
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PangarooFREE2021#8
The last winter flounder I caught was caught around 1993. Just flood the bays with 6 inch flounder and see what happens ? how can it hurt ??
First Mate701 postsSince 2021
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PangarooFREE2021#9
Winter flounder is the perfect fish to stock because they'll stay in the same area their whole life.
First Mate701 postsSince 2021
BennyV
BennyVFREE2021#10
Can't tell you the last time I caught one. Not worth trying for them on party boats anymore.
You can get em for a couple weeks in a certain area near city island. A few boats do ok. I used to go to remember the good ol days. Had 6 on one trip. ORL.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,665 postsSince 2018
Snapprhead27
You can get em for a couple weeks in a certain area near city island. A few boats do ok. I used to go to remember the good ol days. Had 6 on one trip. ORL.
Yea, I remember seeing them get some early on.
Captain4,988 postsSince 2020
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chunksterFREE2021#12
Double headers on the crossbay bridge. Accidentally catching them in crab traps.
Captain1,969 postsSince 2020
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chunksterFREE2021#13
When I was a teenager. On opening day for flounders I would be on the bridge going at it.
I always caught fish up to two pounds, I would go after to the tackle shop and give them
the report. The goofy kid that I was and for sure still am when it comes to fishing. The tackle
shop would relay my report to the fisherman and I would get my fishing nickname in the report
section of the fisherman. After a couple of seasons of repeating myself I decided to invite my
friend. Now both of us got our name in the magazine. You can not have more fun than that when
you're a teenager. We're talking 15, 16, 17, 18 years old.


Captain1,969 postsSince 2020
Snapprhead27
Shinnecock canal was always hot opening day
Captain4,988 postsSince 2020
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chunksterFREE2021#15
Polish immigrants, they love fishing. There women walk around like they're sucking on a lemon.
Captain1,969 postsSince 2020
FinDiesel
FinDieselFREE2021#16
Lived So shore LI my whole life..
Western GSB/So Oyster Bay was (IMHO) Floundering was ruined starting decades ago by pollution.
ie:nitrogen runoff from lawn fertilizer, Street runoff of all types, broken/malfunctioning outflow pipes from Sewage treatment plant at Cedar Creek..etc.
Those reasons, if not enough, combined with over-fishing,- and much later- cormorants and seal populations booming.
The recovery of the Bass stocks in the 90's + prob did not help either.
There are still small pockets/holes around that hold some(I would not eat fish from them)
Seems like too much has to be done for the Flounder to ever return to this area.
I wish there were hope, but sadly I think not.
Deckhand3 postsSince 2021
BennyV
BennyVFREE2021#17
I used to fish on this boat out of city island when I was very young. Maybe 11. Back then flounder fishing used to open on St. Patrick’s day. Guys used to show up by the droves for a shot at the flounder. We’d steam up to Oyster Bay and drop our lines in. A few fish were caught, but it was more about getting out and the start of the season. There was this whacky mate that used to work there. He had this tradition where he’d tie on a pack or two of flounder hooks to each chum pot before he dropped em down at the first spot. Every year guys would bet which would catch a fish first. Also some would bet he wouldn’t get any. Good memories. BTW he always caught a few every season using that technique.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,665 postsSince 2018
Double Trouble
Used to fish the back of Jamaica bay in February in the 90's and get fish.
First MateOriginal Crew346 postsSince 2019
pequa1
pequa1MOD2021#19
I don't even put our bay boat back in until fluke season. with our first boat I was in in March and out in mid November. Regarding cormorants- wings and feet into your garbage, bury the carcass in your garden. 'Nuff said.
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,027 postsSince 2018
WhatKnot
WhatKnotFREE2021#20
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CommodoreOriginal Crew12,891 postsSince 2019
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