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New Braid to Mono leader Knot - the SC - Looks EASY!

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Leprechaun
First we had FG, then the PR Bobbin. Now the "SC." This one looks easy:


And here's the the typically overly-complicated Japanese version, finished with a "Reversed Rizzuto" knot, which I have used in the past:


Gotta love those Japanese - always finding the long road home. . .
CaptainOriginal Crew2,210 postsSince 2018
WhatKnot
WhatKnotFREE2021#2
First we had FG, then the PR Bobbin. Now the "SC." This one looks easy:


And here's the the typically overly-complicated Japanese version, finished with a "Reversed Rizzuto" knot, which I have used in the past:


Gotta love those Japanese - always finding the long road home. . .
Unfortunately, the first video is unavailable.
CommodoreOriginal Crew12,891 postsSince 2019
Leprechaun
Don't find that to be the case about the first vid. It plays fine on my PC.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,210 postsSince 2018
M
MacksFREE2021#4
Don't find that to be the case about the first vid. It plays fine on my PC.
No problem with the vids,I’ll try it,thanks..
First MateOriginal Crew641 postsSince 2019
Roccus7
Roccus7MOD2021#5
Unfortunately, the first video is unavailable.
You're correct. You can't play it from here, you have to go to YouTube and play it from there.

Copy and paste this into your browser line, but erase the "$" first. Had to fool the website into not assuming this was an active link

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Now the old curmudgeon in me will chime in. IMO, any knot that can't be easily tied on a pitching deck has limited utility to me...
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
pequa1
pequa1MOD2021#6
I definitely can not see myself tying this on an open, ocean beach. M A Y B E on the kayak. Trying to tie these connector type knots at or on either was a bit much for me and I went back to swivels and snaps. What I will do is start off with them and if I lose a rig, etc., I will just use a snap swivel / paper clip again.
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,027 postsSince 2018
Leprechaun
Pequa1 - This knot is meant to attach a mono leader to braid. The first vid couldn’t be any easier. I know I could tie it in 30 seconds, while standing in my boat. The Japanese version is a home work table-type knot, imo.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,210 postsSince 2018
pequa1
pequa1MOD2021#8
Making a loop in 10# braid while leaning forward in my yak, and then trying to wind that loop around the 15# fluoro leader twenty times ? Probably worse trying to re-tie it on a windy ocean beach in the fall, albeit with 20# braid and 30 lb leader. Will stick with snap swivels and paper clips if I have to cut off a rig.

Am I looking at the wrong video ?
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,027 postsSince 2018
Leprechaun
The way its tied in the first video is no more difficult than a Double Uni, which I can do in my sleep. You could too, if you tried. Give it a shot - I think you'll agree. . .
CaptainOriginal Crew2,210 postsSince 2018
OVERBORED
OVERBOREDFREE2021#10
The best knot is the one you are comfortable tying when the fish are biting in bad conditions and your trying to get back into the bite.
Captain4,156 postsSince 2021
Leprechaun
"The best knot is the one you are comfortable tying . . ."

I couldn't agree more. But not trying is not knowing. I find I cannot get proficient at anything unless I do it repetitively. I'm not a naturally gifted person, so I work twice as hard to get better at the things I like to do.

This most certainly includes tying fishing knots. Hey, there are times I screw up a basic knot like the Double-Uni, as I believe is the case with many other guys. So for me, practice makes perfect.

Anyway, I will give this knot (in the first vid) a fair try on the grounds and report back my findings.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,210 postsSince 2018
T
TogilatorFREE2021#12
Not new,This Knots been around for sometime.I have no idea who came up with it first but Kevin Twilley the mate on the Fishbound out of Ocean city Maryland has been tying it for me and other clients for at least the last 4 to 5 years.I don't remember when he exactly switched to it but they catch some of the biggest tog around and I never had his knot fail.I fully take advantage of a qualified mate tying on my top shot when needed.One less thing I have to worry about and I can get back in the game with my other rod.Not sure how Kevin finishes the knot though.I never paid attention to that part.It has worked well on bottom fish applications.
MateOriginal Crew93 postsSince 2018
longcast
longcastFREE2021#13
If it holds up to tog, it's worth learning. I use the uni to uni, but usually for more light tackle scenarios.

But, not be put to use until I can tie in my sleep!
AdmiralOriginal Crew20,411 postsSince 2019
Snapprhead27
Maybe I should start practicing these knots in the off season. Especially with snow coming next week.
Captain4,988 postsSince 2020
longcast
longcastFREE2021#15
Making a loop in 10# braid while leaning forward in my yak, and then trying to wind that loop around the 15# fluoro leader twenty times ? Probably worse trying to re-tie it on a windy ocean beach in the fall, albeit with 20# braid and 30 lb leader. Will stick with snap swivels and paper clips if I have to cut off a rig.

Am I looking at the wrong video ?
As we age, we fish differently. You mention an ocean beach. I would mention under the light or the tip of a jetty close to the water on a slippery rock with a foothold on maybe an area the size of a garbage can cover! When you had a break off and were being battered every other wave, a simple improved clinch knot to a barrel swivel to leader etc. allowed you to look down and get it done before the next wave! Oh, and of course you would always have an issue as others were pulling fish during a very tight window bite! 🙂

But, those days are probably done!!
AdmiralOriginal Crew20,411 postsSince 2019
OVERBORED
OVERBOREDFREE2021#16
The FG knot is my favorite braid to mono knot but I am all thumbs when it comes time to tying it on a pitching boat. I can tie it well in my living room with my reading glasses on. That's it!

All other times its uni to uni. I can tie that one with my eyes closed and it never fails. just gets hung up on the guides some times......
Captain4,156 postsSince 2021
pequa1
pequa1MOD2021#17
Maybe I should start practicing these knots in the off season. Especially with snow coming next week.
Perhaps, but as with marksmanship, its probably a perishable skill.
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,027 postsSince 2018
Roccus7
Roccus7MOD2021#18
Perhaps, but as with marksmanship, its probably a perishable skill.
So true, the first time I try to tie just about any knot in April it's "HTF do I do this one???"
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
Leprechaun
I can't tie the FG on my boat. No way, not with all the crisscrossing. I just can't keep track of where I'm at in the "weave," what with all the other distractions on the tog grounds. So that's why I'm very interested in finding a stronger knot than the Double-Uni that I can tie aboard the boat - though in fact the past three seasons I've never lost my shock leader while using either the FG or the Bobbin PR.

But it could happen, and so I'm trying to find "that" knot which will be as strong as those two and still be tie-able on my boat. not to mention the clanking thru the guides and occasional hanging in my small-diameter tip-tops. The Double-Uni definitely is not he knot to deal with all that.

But, I think this SC knot might be "the One." That's why I shared it, though I'm beginning to regret doing so. . . 🙄

Oh, btw, I don't use a shock leader for fluke - I tie my braid directly to the top swivel of my B/S rig, with a 12-turn Improved clinch. Never had that fail, either.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,210 postsSince 2018
pequa1
pequa1MOD2021#20
Sorry Lep, didn't want to denigrate the knot above and especially not you. But you just admitted not tying the FG on your boat, which undoubtedly (or at least usually) provides a more stable platform than a windy ocean beach or a bobbing kayak for tying anything to thin braid. I will start off with a uni to uni etc. but once the buck at the end loses too much paint or hair/plastic, it is just too tempting to just cut the connecting knot, tie on a snap swivel/paper clip, and attach another rig with a barrel swivel already tied on.
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,027 postsSince 2018
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