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winterized, but what if unused this summer ?

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pequa1
pequa1MOD2019#1
Just curious about this. Since 2008 or so, I only use my boat a half dozen times a year, preferring to kayak, and from mid October on I usually just deer hunt or surfcast. I have a '99 Sea Pro I purchased new and have religiously winterized it every late fall and have never needed assistance in restarting it in the driveway each spring. It got the proper dosage of Marine Stabil, did the fogging oil routine, exercised the steering cable all winter long and regularly charged the battery. If for some reason I never launch it this year (lengthy vacation in September and the aforementioned autumn activities) am I asking for trouble in the spring of 2020. what else should I do in case it never goes in the water this season ?
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,027 postsSince 2018
Roccus7
Roccus7MOD2019#2
My opinion is that for 1 winter you should be OK. After that, seals may start cracking and screws start getting stuck. Such a scenario caused me to have to replace the tilt/trim unit on a motor on a boat my buddy told me to use after 2 years in storage. The seals had gone on the unit and no one could loosen the fixtures retaining the seals so it was toast. You may also want to drain at least 1/2 of the gas out of the tank before cranking her up in '20 so you can dilute it with fresh stuff. Stabilizer is good, but it only goes so far. Did you also add ethanol treatment like Startron?

They do need some regular loving, two long dry and they like to stay that way...
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
live bait
live baitFREE2019#3
Each time I put gas in the boat I treat with Startron. Last fall when it was time to winterize I called Startron & was told that gas properly treated with startron is good for two years.
John
CaptainOriginal Crew1,979 postsSince 2018
pequa1
pequa1MOD2019#4
I also put the startron ethanol treatment in whenever I add gas, but that's been just twice a season these last ten years, late July and again when I top it off by early November. Just wondering whether I will ever put the boat in. Next couple week's forecast stinks. Although I might kayak for a few hours many of the mornings, I am truly a fair weather sailor with the boat and if rain is likely by mid afternoon I won't bother with the boat.
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,027 postsSince 2018
Capt13
Capt13FREE2019#5
I would want to at least run the engine for a few minutes. My thoughts are that over time, the fogging oil will thin on the cylinder walls. After the run I would fog the engine again and call it good till next year. I have a vague memory of an outboard mechanic telling me if the motor sits for a long time, slight condensation could cause a ring of corrosion on the cylinder wall where the where the piston ring makes contact.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,530 postsSince 2018
S
ScupperFREE2019#6
A little heat to dry up condensation is a good idea ....Run for a good few minutes .....
Here's anew one for me ....
!30 HP Etec trim stopped working , bought a new relay and when I took the cover off the engine to install the flywheel had a soft layer of rust and everything else seemed damp ... How could that be ? The engine sat on the boat on land for its entire career except when being used .........
At that point it was mid Feb and the boat was laid up for a few months ....
Make a long story short , the engine had been stored boomed all the way up with the air vent on the motor cover facing NE ... After much thought and discussion with a few smart guys , we figured out that the vent was allowing rainwater to get in especially during those winter Nor Easters ... We resealed the bottom of the vent and from now on the engine will be in the down position while on land ..........
Live and learn ......
First MateOriginal Crew711 postsSince 2018
DarthBaiter
I didn't float my boat this year. 🙁

Anyway, I've been starting her up twice a month and letting her idle for 10-15min.
First MateOriginal Crew899 postsSince 2019
pequa1
pequa1MOD2019#8
I got it out twice (so far) and maybe will use it a third time. Doubt I am down more than 12 gallons out of 42. Thinking I will top it off with super grade, startron ethanol treatment and with a good stabilizer and hope for the best. I haven't put regular octane in it in years, just medium or super grade since I do most of my fishing via kayak since 2004 or 5. ( figure with the gas just sitting, the octane will gradually drop ??)
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,027 postsSince 2018
jpd
jpdMOD2019#9
I opened and read this thread earlier this morning, now I'm getting ads on pages for Starbrite fogging oil. ?
CommodoreOriginal Crew9,821 postsSince 2018
pequa1
pequa1MOD2019#10
Rebate ?
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,027 postsSince 2018
live bait
live baitFREE2019#11
I had called the phone number on the startron container and was told that gas treated with startron ethanol treatment will be good for two years.
John
CaptainOriginal Crew1,979 postsSince 2018
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I opened and read this thread earlier this morning, now I'm getting ads on pages for Starbrite fogging oil. ?
Good thing you dont have Alexa or another similar thing. Just talking in the room with it listening will put some of those things you were talking about on your pages when online.
First MateOriginal Crew693 postsSince 2019
george
georgeADMIN2019#13
I opened and read this thread earlier this morning, now I'm getting ads on pages for Starbrite fogging oil. ?
I don't doubt it, but we're not even serving ads?
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,158 postsSince 2018
Fluke Whisperer
I don't doubt it, but we're not even serving ads?
Big brother is not only watching, he's listening.
First MateOriginal Crew508 postsSince 2019
jpd
jpdMOD2019#15
I don't doubt it, but we're not even serving ads?

It must be something through Chrome, not this site.
CommodoreOriginal Crew9,821 postsSince 2018
pequa1
pequa1MOD2020#16
Well, its late spring and while I have yet to go kayak fishing, I am also wondering if I will use the Sea Pro this season. Half the 42 gallons of gas is 90 octane put in last October along with the Marine Stabil, Startron, fogging oil. If it never hits the water this year, do you gents still feel I would be better off starting it, adding a little more Stabil (although this year I will be switching to the better rated PRI-G) and then fogging it again for the winter ? While the trailer is pretty new, the boat and 90hp Yamaha 2-stroke, are 1999s, purchased new and with low hours since I started kayaking in 2005.
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,027 postsSince 2018
Fluke Whisperer
Well, its late spring and while I have yet to go kayak fishing, I am also wondering if I will use the Sea Pro this season. Half the 42 gallons of gas is 90 octane put in last October along with the Marine Stabil, Startron, fogging oil. If it never hits the water this year, do you gents still feel I would be better off starting it, adding a little more Stabil (although this year I will be switching to the better rated PRI-G) and then fogging it again for the winter ? While the trailer is pretty new, the boat and 90hp Yamaha 2-stroke, are 1999s, purchased new and with low hours since I started kayaking in 2005.

Well my buddy bought a boat going back in the late 90's, it was an 89 wellcraft that had been sitting for 3 yrs, it was supposedly treated with whatever gas stabilizer they had back then, well, we took it out for a test ride and the motor kept bogging down, so the marina he bought it from changed all the filters, boat ran great for about a week, to make this story short, 15, yamaha 10 micron filters later the varnish that built up in the tank had filled all those filters in a space of 3 months.
I don't know how good those stabilizers are today but, if your not going to use it this year, I would siphon out that gas and use it in my cars and whatever else you got that runs on gas, then replace it again and restabilize.
First MateOriginal Crew508 postsSince 2019
Avenger
AvengerFREE2020#18
What he said. ^^^

I've kept stabilized gas for a year, but after that you're starting to push the issue. The only thing I'd do different is, if you're going to pump the tank, just leave it empty. That whole condensation thing is mostly mythological. Check your fill O-rings. You're much more likely to get water in the tank that way than from the atmosphere.
CaptainOriginal Crew3,414 postsSince 2019
pequa1
pequa1MOD2020#19
Looks like I am going to have to launch it and run it out to Fire Island and Jones Inlets a couple of times. Its a 2 stroke so I can't put the gas in anything.
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,027 postsSince 2018
Avenger
AvengerFREE2020#20
Looks like I am going to have to launch it and run it out to Fire Island and Jones Inlets a couple of times. Its a 2 stroke so I can't put the gas in anything.

God forbid you have to go out and run a boat. 😱 Whatever you do, don't take a fishing rod with you either. And please call me if you need a deckhand when you go. The best boat rides are free boat rides.

But seriously, a couple of gallons added when you fill up your car isn't going to matter. Just don't overdo it.

Another thought,... by the late '90s, wasn't Yamaha making VRO engines? My buddy's '98 150s are oil injected. I'm surprised yours aren't.

In any case, there has to be a way to use that gas for fun instead of an obligation.
CaptainOriginal Crew3,414 postsSince 2019
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