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Some NYCDEC Enforcement Updates

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george
georgeADMIN2019#1
Too Many Fish Too Early in Pelham Bay Park - Bronx County
With the striped bass season opening in two days, ECOs Connor Dodge and Zachary Kochanowski patrolled Pelham Bay Park on the evening of April 13. The area is popular with local fishermen and complaints had been received about striped bass being kept before the season opened. Four separate groups of fishermen were found to be in possession of striped bass, including one group with seven fish and another group with six. Only one fish was still alive and released. In total, 15 out-of-season striped bass were seized and 11 summonses were issued. In waters south of the George Washington Bridge, the legal season began on April 15, and the daily possession limit is one striped bass per fishermen, 28 inches or larger in total length.

Fifteen fish lined up on the back of a truck with a flashlight shining on them
15 out-of-season striped bass seized in a single night at Pelham Bay Park


Perch Poachers Apprehended - Erie County
After receiving numerous complaints of people illegally netting perch on the Niagara River, ECOs Jamie Powers and Tim Machnica patrolled the area in plain clothes on April 11. The ECOs located a vehicle from a previous complaint and watched as three individuals worked together to scoop large numbers of perch from the water using nets and then take buckets of fish back to the vehicle. When the ECOs identified themselves to the subjects, 3,537 yellow perch, 187 carp, 14 rock bass, and 2 sunfish were found in the subjects' possession. A total of 14 summonses for various fishing violations were issued to the three subjects. Fortunately, most of the fish survived and were returned to the water.

Three buckets of fish, filled almost to the top.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,158 postsSince 2018
Capt13
Capt13FREE2019#2
One night, at one location. Talk about tip of the iceberg.

Fishery managers should take those numbers and extrapolate them out like they did with APAIS numbers.

Maybe change their focus. It maybe should be on much better enforcement rather than to take it out of the hides of the law abiding recs.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,530 postsSince 2018
Roccus7
Roccus7MOD2019#3
One night, at one location. Talk about tip of the iceberg.

Fishery managers should take those numbers and extrapolate them out like they did with APAIS numbers.

Maybe change their focus. It maybe should be on much better enforcement rather than to take it out of the hides of the law abiding recs.

Not debating that one bit, but ASFMC doesn't dole out money for enforcement so who's gonna pay for the increased enforcement?? Would you be amenable to having a salt water license with all funds going into salt water fishing?? Regrettably NY doesn't have Inland and Marine enforcement, at least Maine as Inland Fishing and Wildlife, and Marine Resources. But here, the Marine wardens are almost solely focused on Lobstah...
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
george
georgeADMIN2019#4
Not debating that one bit, but ASFMC doesn't dole out money for enforcement so who's gonna pay for the increased enforcement?? Would you be amenable to having a salt water license with all funds going into salt water fishing?? Regrettably NY doesn't have Inland and Marine enforcement, at least Maine as Inland Fishing and Wildlife, and Marine Resources. But here, the Marine wardens are almost solely focused on Lobstah...
NY has a total of aprox 40 officers in districts 1 and 2. That covers about .1000 miles of coastline. I don't care if you double it, until; we make this like Alaska where there is ZERO tolerance and huge fines, including license and boat confiscation, will we see a change. No one in the fishing business poaches in ALASKA.

Not to mention I totally oppose one dime of any lice/permit money being geared at enforcement. It shouldn't be up to recs to pay for enforcing both rec and com regulations.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,158 postsSince 2018
BennyV
BennyVFREE2019#5
Iโ€™ve been calling about Pelham Bay Park every year. Never saw one DEC officer stop by. Glad they went there. They need to continue enforcement at that spot on a regular basis. I grew up in that area and Iโ€™m completely disgusted with what goes on.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,665 postsSince 2018

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