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Porgies stack up around Shelter Island as new-moon springs build toward Plum Gut

Fluke slide out of the bay and into the channels while bass wait on the building tide for the weekend's big push.

The Peconic's been doing what it does every July — running hot ahead of the open Sound, and last week that gap widened again. Shallow flats off Southold and Noyack have been soaking up sun since sunrise, and by afternoon high the water up in the coves feels more like bathwater than bay. That's pushed bait shallow and pulled some of the bigger fluke out of the skinny stuff and into the channels where they can sit in cooler moving water — the same pattern we're seeing bay-wide this summer, just compressed here because the Peconic warms faster than anywhere else on the East End. We're heading into a new moon Thursday, and that means the tides are building into true springs through the weekend, peaking around the 11th through 13th. Bigger swings, faster water, more exchange through the Gut and around Shelter Island's points — that's the kind of current that stacks bait and gets predators moving on a schedule instead of just picking at random.

What that means practically: the days of lazy slack-tide bass are numbered for a few days. I'd be planning trips around the moving water, not fighting it. Morning outgoing at Orient Point and Plum Gut has been the best window for stripers, and with the tides building bigger this week, that current is going to rip harder and pull more bait through — sand eels and small bunker getting squeezed against the rocks on the Orient side. Bucktails in white or chartreuse, 1 to 1.5 ounce depending on how hard it's ripping, worked along the rock edge on the drift, have been picking up bass in the 26 to 32-inch range. A few better fish — one angler I talked to at the Orient ramp had a 38-incher on a bunker chunk fished on the bottom in the deeper water off the point right at the top of the tide, right before the current really got moving. Night guys running eels through the Gut on the last two hours of the outgoing have had the more consistent shots at bigger fish — that's still the money play there, especially with darker skies heading into the new moon.

Porgy fishing has been the bright spot all week, and it usually is this time of year — the Peconic is about as reliable as it gets for scup once the water settles into summer temps. Cedar Point reef, the drop-offs off Jessup's Neck, and the rock piles around Robins Island have all been holding good numbers. Bloodworms are still king but squid strips and clam are doing plenty of damage too, fished on a simple high-low rig with size 6 or 8 hooks, right on bottom in 15 to 25 feet. Anchoring up and chumming a little clam or crushed mussel shell has been worth the extra effort — it concentrates the schools and turns a decent afternoon into a limit trip. Sizes have been solid, plenty in the 12 to 14-inch range with enough 15s mixed in to keep it interesting. If you've got kids or you just want a bend-in-the-rod kind of day, this is still the play in this bay.

Fluke have been more work than usual. The bay stretches that were producing in June — the flats off Southold, the grass edges in Noyack — have gone quiet as that water's warmed past what fluke want to sit in comfortably. The better bite has shifted into the channels: the North Ferry cut between Shelter Island and Greenport, the deeper water off Jessup's Neck, and the edges of the Orient channel where the bottom drops into 20-plus feet and stays cooler on the moving tide. White Gulp Swimming Mullets on 3/4-ounce bucktails, dragged slow on the drift through those channel edges on the outgoing, have been the most consistent producer. Sizes have been mixed — a lot of shorts mixed with keepers in the 18 to 20-inch class, occasional fish pushing 22. It's not a bay full of doormats right now, but a patient drift through the deeper cuts is putting fish in the box.

Weakfish, I'll be straight with you — they're just not here in any real numbers. Water's been warm enough for weeks now that the old temperature theory doesn't hold up anymore; it's just not the season for them in this bay the way it used to be. If you're targeting them specifically, I'd spend that time on porgies or fluke instead. Bluefish have shown up in pockets chasing bait around Gardiners Bay and off Shelter Island's south side — nothing sustained, but when you find a school working bunker on top, small metal jigs or poppers will get bit fast and hard for twenty minutes before they move on.

Looking ahead, the building springs into the weekend are the story. If the wind stays reasonable, I'd be at Plum Gut or Orient Point on the outgoing Friday through Sunday morning, working the rock structure hard as that bigger tide starts really moving bait. Porgy trips around Shelter Island are close to a sure thing right now regardless of moon phase — that bite doesn't care much about tide timing the way the bass do. And for fluke, stick with the channels until this heat breaks; the bay flats won't turn back on until we get a stretch of cooler nights to knock the surface temps down.

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