There are approximately 15.1 million recreational salt water fishermen in the United States. The U.S. population is approximately 330 million. Salt water fishermen make up about 4.6% of the population.
Fish are a natural resource, much the same as lumber, farming, fresh water, etc, etc, and etc.
Would not equal allocation of a resource take into an account the other 95% of the country that does not fish for fun? Are you saying that less than 5% of the country who fish as a hobby, fun n’ games, are entitled, or should get 50% of this natural resource?
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NOAA Fisheries - What’s new, what are they responsible for……
The Atlantic Bluefin tuna biomass is estimated at 800-900mt. The Pacific BT biomass at 100-120mt.
NOAA regulates both so why is it that in California I can keep 10 bluefin per person but in NY its 1 per boat?
Unlike lumber and farming, I can't grown my own Tuna.
Fishing regulations in general are disproportional to the estimated biomass and it's a trend across all species. NOAA has an agenda tied to the philosophy that our oceans should be aquariums. The more MPAs the better. The Obama model lives on.
NOAA regulates both so why is it that in California I can keep 10 bluefin per person but in NY its 1 per boat?
Unlike lumber and farming, I can't grown my own Tuna.
Fishing regulations in general are disproportional to the estimated biomass and it's a trend across all species. NOAA has an agenda tied to the philosophy that our oceans should be aquariums. The more MPAs the better. The Obama model lives on.
"Chance only favors the prepared mind" - Pasteur
Captain4,161 postsSince 2021
The Atlantic Bluefin tuna biomass is estimated at 800-900mt. The Pacific BT biomass at 100-120mt.
NOAA regulates both so why is it that in California I can keep 10 bluefin per person but in NY its 1 per boat?
Unlike lumber and farming, I can't grown my own Tuna.
Fishing regulations in general are disproportional to the estimated biomass and it's a trend across all species. NOAA has an agenda tied to the philosophy that our oceans should be aquariums. The more MPAs the better. The Obama model lives on.
That is simply your own personal interpretation of how you see things and in no way represents what the scientific community puts forward.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,132 postsSince 2018
NOAA Fisheries’ Cooperative Research programs build partnerships between scientists and fishermen to collect data that improves fisheries management.
www.fisheries.noaa.gov
Scientists and the Fishing Industry Join Forces for Better Data and Management (Part 2)
NOAA Fisheries’ Cooperative Research programs build partnerships between scientists and fishermen to collect data that improves fisheries management.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,132 postsSince 2018
Day late and a dollar short. Herring have been decimated up and down the New England Coast and have other baitfish.
Next will be Menhaden if they don't wake up!
NOAA working with commercial fishermen is a direct result of repeated failures trying to get data on their own and the deteriorating condition of their research vessels.
NOAA research vessel failures often involve fires, aging infrastructure, or operational setbacks due to maintenance issues. Notable incidents include the 2023 fire aboard the NOAA Ship Rainier, which disabled its propulsion, and the 2020 decommissioning of the Hi‘ialakai due to poor condition. Despite safety protocols, failures can happen, sometimes requiring U.S. Coast Guard intervention.
Office of Marine and Aviation Operations (.gov) +3
Key Recent and Notable Failures:
Next will be Menhaden if they don't wake up!
NOAA working with commercial fishermen is a direct result of repeated failures trying to get data on their own and the deteriorating condition of their research vessels.
NOAA research vessel failures often involve fires, aging infrastructure, or operational setbacks due to maintenance issues. Notable incidents include the 2023 fire aboard the NOAA Ship Rainier, which disabled its propulsion, and the 2020 decommissioning of the Hi‘ialakai due to poor condition. Despite safety protocols, failures can happen, sometimes requiring U.S. Coast Guard intervention.
Office of Marine and Aviation Operations (.gov) +3Key Recent and Notable Failures:
- NOAA Ship Rainier (2023): On September 5, 2023, a fire broke out in the exhaust stacks above the engine room while operating near American Samoa. While 41 personnel were safe, the ship lost propulsion, phone, and internet connectivity, necessitating a return to port.
- NOAA Ship Ronald H. Brown (2025): A fire occurred onboard in October 2025 off the coast of Louisiana, with reports of evacuations from the platform, although no injuries were reported.
- Fleet Aging and Decommissioning: Aging ships have resulted in operational failures. The Hi‘ialakai was decommissioned in December 2020 due to its material condition, forcing the cancellation of research, while overall fleet maintenance has been noted as a significant challenge.
- Older Incidents: Historically, the research vessel Researcher (1970) and others have faced operational issues over their lifespans, and in some contexts, external vessels working on NOAA projects have encountered issues.
Office of Marine and Aviation Operations (.gov) +5
"Chance only favors the prepared mind" - Pasteur
Captain4,161 postsSince 2021
Day late and a dollar short. Herring have been decimated up and down the New England Coast and have other baitfish.
Next will be Menhaden if they don't wake up!
NOAA working with commercial fishermen is a direct result of repeated failures trying to get data on their own and the deteriorating condition of their research vessels.
NOAA research vessel failures often involve fires, aging infrastructure, or operational setbacks due to maintenance issues. Notable incidents include the 2023 fire aboard the NOAA Ship Rainier, which disabled its propulsion, and the 2020 decommissioning of the Hi‘ialakai due to poor condition. Despite safety protocols, failures can happen, sometimes requiring U.S. Coast Guard intervention.
View attachment 114690Office of Marine and Aviation Operations (.gov) +3
Key Recent and Notable Failures:
- NOAA Ship Rainier (2023): On September 5, 2023, a fire broke out in the exhaust stacks above the engine room while operating near American Samoa. While 41 personnel were safe, the ship lost propulsion, phone, and internet connectivity, necessitating a return to port.
- NOAA Ship Ronald H. Brown (2025): A fire occurred onboard in October 2025 off the coast of Louisiana, with reports of evacuations from the platform, although no injuries were reported.
- Fleet Aging and Decommissioning: Aging ships have resulted in operational failures. The Hi‘ialakai was decommissioned in December 2020 due to its material condition, forcing the cancellation of research, while overall fleet maintenance has been noted as a significant challenge.
- Older Incidents: Historically, the research vessel Researcher (1970) and others have faced operational issues over their lifespans, and in some contexts, external vessels working on NOAA projects have encountered issues.
View attachment 114691Office of Marine and Aviation Operations (.gov) +5
And with NOAA facing over 27% budget cuts things will probably get worse.
NOAA in the second Trump administration - Wikipedia
CaptainOriginal Crew2,132 postsSince 2018
Scientists and the Fishing Industry Join Forces for Better Data and Management (Part 1)
Scientists and the Fishing Industry Join Forces for Better Data and Management (Part 1)
NOAA Fisheries’ Cooperative Research programs build partnerships between scientists and fishermen to collect data that improves fisheries management.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,132 postsSince 2018
NOAA has had collaborated data for decades but insisted on using computer models.
When they have accurate data ( see sea bass) they ignore it!
Cod fishery has collapsed under their watch. Bluefish, winter flounder and herring have collapsed under their watch.
And on and on.
When they have accurate data ( see sea bass) they ignore it!
Cod fishery has collapsed under their watch. Bluefish, winter flounder and herring have collapsed under their watch.
And on and on.
"Chance only favors the prepared mind" - Pasteur
Captain4,161 postsSince 2021
NOAA has had collaborated data for decades but insisted on using computer models.
When they have accurate data ( see sea bass) they ignore it!
Cod fishery has collapsed under their watch. Bluefish, winter flounder and herring have collapsed under their watch.
And on and on.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,132 postsSince 2018
Check out the new discard protocols NOAA will be implementing in the Gulf of Mexico. I would think if successful we may be seeing this up here.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,132 postsSince 2018
Looks like an interesting approach. And with the $50 contest incentive they should get plenty of participation.
Let's hope they do something constructive with the data collected.
Let's hope they do something constructive with the data collected.
CaptainOriginal Crew1,853 postsSince 2018
NOAA's 2026 Atlantic hurricane season outlook announced
The 2026 Atlantic hurricane season is quickly approaching, and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration is releasing its forecast for what to expect.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,132 postsSince 2018
As we approach the height of the Atlantic hurricane season, which the very peak of is September 10th., NOAA still maintains a below average storm season.
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CaptainOriginal Crew2,132 postsSince 2018
Magnuson-Steven’s Act - 50 years later……
[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.fisheries.noaa.gov/leadership-message/50-years-innovation-and-leadership-celebrating-magnuson-stevens-act
CaptainOriginal Crew2,132 postsSince 2018
Not my personal conclusion. I'm not that smart but people who are wrote plenty of literature on it.
Please share the literature written by these “smart people.” Also share what the professional & educational background these “smart people” have.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,132 postsSince 2018
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