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156,661 views·1393 replies·by Leprechaun·First Post·Latest
captmike28
Nice fish there Capt! What's your take on the lack of fluke entering the Peconic system. It's beginning to look like last year when fluke catches were great in Montauk and along the entire south shore for that matter. And the Peconic and sound have been pretty barren? It almost seems like the fluke are passing us right by. Buy why? I know it's too early to tell, but I've been seeing this same pattern in the sound for 3-4 years now, with each year getting tougher.

Plenty of bait, but little action on both fluke and birds. If you're not fishing porgies or striped bass you're just not catching.
Sorry for the tardy reply George but I have been trying to really think hard about what could be causing this shift in the Fluke action. I am mot a fisheries biologist but feel as though I have pretty good powers of observation and accurate records.

Like we have all speculated for some time now, reductions this dramatic are usually the result of many factors. Most of us have noted changes in water temperature, more pollution, increases in species that may be consuming Fluke fry as part of their diet. What about changes in salinity or pH? Has anybody studied this seriously or long enough to make any reasonable predictions?

For a while many of us thought it was a lack of bait. I do recall back in the early to mid 80"s there was so much squid in the Peconic Bay system that the Prime Time would actually run night Squid Trips for the customer s to load up both for bait and human consumption purposes. That hasn't happened in decades. This year myself and many others have noted a pretty large uptick in the amount of squid we are marking on our machines plus seeing some of the Fluke spit up. And still the early bite has been slow. It looks like it may have picked up a bit these last few days with the warm spell but it could also be an anomaly. I hope not as I have several local Fluke trips booked in the coming weeks.

Several have commented that the overall Biomass is depressed. I kind of feel there is a lot of truth to that belief. Although we had a good Fluke season off Montauk last summer it was not as strong as the 2-4 years prior to that. Plus the steady bite didn't really take off there until mid July about 2 weeks later than usual. And heaven knows what has happened to the Gardiners' Island bite that used to be so steady from mid June through late July. That fishery has been all but dead for at least the past 3 years.

I know a lot of folks would like to take the easy route and just blame the commercials. I also know, as you have stated, that the daily quotas, at least for NY vessels, is pretty small. However, I do not know what the limits are for other vessels form adjacent states and those who target the species on the continental shelf over the winter.

So, yes it is complex problem and I sure hope we can figure it out while there are still enough Fluke around to rebuild the stock throughout our region.
CaptainOriginal Crew1,853 postsSince 2018
BoatGuy
BoatGuynoreaster.com2021#442
Sorry for the tardy reply George but I have been trying to really think hard about what could be causing this shift in the Fluke action. I am mot a fisheries biologist but feel as though I have pretty good powers of observation and accurate records.

Like we have all speculated for some time now, reductions this dramatic are usually the result of many factors. Most of us have noted changes in water temperature, more pollution, increases in species that may be consuming Fluke fry as part of their diet. What about changes in salinity or pH? Has anybody studied this seriously or long enough to make any reasonable predictions?

For a while many of us thought it was a lack of bait. I do recall back in the early to mid 80"s there was so much squid in the Peconic Bay system that the Prime Time would actually run night Squid Trips for the customer s to load up both for bait and human consumption purposes. That hasn't happened in decades. This year myself and many others have noted a pretty large uptick in the amount of squid we are marking on our machines plus seeing some of the Fluke spit up. And still the early bite has been slow. It looks like it may have picked up a bit these last few days with the warm spell but it could also be an anomaly. I hope not as I have several local Fluke trips booked in the coming weeks.

Several have commented that the overall Biomass is depressed. I kind of feel there is a lot of truth to that belief. Although we had a good Fluke season off Montauk last summer it was not as strong as the 2-4 years prior to that. Plus the steady bite didn't really take off there until mid July about 2 weeks later than usual. And heaven knows what has happened to the Gardiners' Island bite that used to be so steady from mid June through late July. That fishery has been all but dead for at least the past 3 years.

I know a lot of folks would like to take the easy route and just blame the commercials. I also know, as you have stated, that the daily quotas, at least for NY vessels, is pretty small. However, I do not know what the limits are for other vessels form adjacent states and those who target the species on the continental shelf over the winter.

So, yes it is complex problem and I sure hope we can figure it out while there are still enough Fluke around to rebuild the stock throughout our region.
A well thought out reply.

I have enjoyed the discussions over multiple posts on why the fishing is in the state it is in. I have been wondering about this ever since the winter flounder I used to catch and enjoy eating disappeared. I have asked myself why have Weakfish returned. Black Sea Bass, once a bi-catch and now more numerous.

I now realize the answer will most likely be several factors. Singling out draggers, cormorants and seals without consideration is climate change, turbidity, salinity, drainage storm impact and loss of habitats all may be implicated. Pollution due to cesspools may not only effect fish but is tainting our drinking water.

I have started to ask questions to others more knowledgeable than myself. I exchanged emails with Captain Paul Risi, who has opened my eyes to more than I ever considered. It is not a simple answer and factors we have not even considered may be found to play and important part.

*DEEP SIGN* I don’t have the answers. This puzzle may be with us for some time.
First MateOriginal Crew780 postsSince 2019
Leprechaun
LeprechaunMODnoreaster.com2021#443
So whatever happened to the huge mats of eel grass that used to float out to sea from the GSB? I can remember having to make big detours in the bay, so to not completely foul our prop. Many times they were so large that they stretched for a 100' - in some cases completely blocking the narrower channels in the Massapequa/Seaford area. Those mats were well known to be the nursing ground for all sorts of fish fry - most especially, baby weakfish. I think the loss of much of our eel grass has also been a big contributor to the deterioration of our bay fishing. What killed the eel grass? I dunno. Changes in salinity? Excess turbidity? Some other issue? No idea. But also no more grass mats in my area.
"Luck" is when preparation meets opportunity.
I prefer fishing evolution to fishing extinction.
If ya want to clean up the water, ya gotta get the pigs out of the creek.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,216 postsSince 2018
Leprechaun
LeprechaunMODnoreaster.com2021#444
Time to call Chris/HippyChik. Given the nasty knee issues I've had this past Fall/Winter, I never thought I'd get it all done before Memorial Day. All I can say is "LET THE GAMES BEGIN!"

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"Luck" is when preparation meets opportunity.
I prefer fishing evolution to fishing extinction.
If ya want to clean up the water, ya gotta get the pigs out of the creek.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,216 postsSince 2018
captmike28
Looks great, Pete. Can't wait to join you for those south shore Fluke. If anyone can find them you will!!
CaptainOriginal Crew1,853 postsSince 2018
george
georgeADMINnoreaster.com2021#446
Yeah, what Mike said.
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CommodoreOriginal Crew5,174 postsSince 2018
Leprechaun
LeprechaunMODnoreaster.com2021#447
"Luck" is when preparation meets opportunity.
I prefer fishing evolution to fishing extinction.
If ya want to clean up the water, ya gotta get the pigs out of the creek.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,216 postsSince 2018
C
First real fluke report of the season...Not that great but we had ocean fluke ..seven fish with two keepers ...

Left this AM ocean ways not happy.. bit of a 3 to 6 ft washing machine ..some 4 to 6' really close ..It did lay down by ten ish..and turned into a beautiful day..

hit some normal everyone knows spots & seabass everywhere ,,could not get away from them ..did pick some fat ling & than moved to my honey hole & they were there,,,Not in great numbers ,,But that AM swell could have shut down the bite ...

off again after the big blow ...
custom crafted fishing rods and blanks from United Composites UC AR custom blanks ...CTS & CTS AR custom blanks ..Phenix M1 and UMBX...
CaptainOriginal Crew1,185 postsSince 2019
C
wish I had a good fluke report..Fluke are few & far between..water still 55 to 57 degrees ..also ling are few & that has me worried ..
BSB are around but many many shorts & it make fishing for anything else hard ...inshore water dirty & loaded with grass..deeper water clean ...

hope next weeks warm up brings the fish...squid drag boats working the 50 to 65 ' depth..

I did put a mixed bag together ling , mack's blues & a fluke .,.but nothing great..
custom crafted fishing rods and blanks from United Composites UC AR custom blanks ...CTS & CTS AR custom blanks ..Phenix M1 and UMBX...
CaptainOriginal Crew1,185 postsSince 2019
Leprechaun
LeprechaunMODnoreaster.com2021#450
Whelp, not such a good week, so far. In addition to having to put down our beautiful and beloved Collie Casey on Saturday, my launch day today had to be put off. You'd think an entire Spring's worth of knee-busting work would have disclosed any weird issues, but nope.

With my hauler an hour out, I typically run the engine on the house hose for a bit, so to warm her up and be ready to her back off the trailer without any carburetor fuss. So, connected the hose, opened the house hose's gate valve - and Voila! Water pouring out of my RW strainer basket, into the bilge. Look here:

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I cannot say if this was a result of old age (34 yrs in the bilge), or if the dopey non-tox antifreeze I tried for the first time this past Winter didn't do its job - but whatever, no launch for the Lep.

Luckily I caught it before I had a major overheat on the way from the ramp to my slip - or that it didn't let go while the boat was unattended at the marina and thus no one around to close the sea cock. Lesson learned - close the engine sea cock at the dock and create a sign that reminds me to open it before starting up in the morning - maybe with a hook for the key to hang on. Or maybe just hang the key right on the sea cock's arm. I'll figure it out.

A dopey piece of blow-molded acrylic, a rubber o-ring and new plastic drain plug - approx $90 tomorrow at Freeport Marine. Just ridiculous.

And I miss the hell out of my baby, Casey. Couldn't ask for a sweeter, smarter, better behaved doggie.

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"Luck" is when preparation meets opportunity.
I prefer fishing evolution to fishing extinction.
If ya want to clean up the water, ya gotta get the pigs out of the creek.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,216 postsSince 2018
BennyV
BennyVFREE2021#451
11lber on the Snowgoose yesterday. The fish laying on top of the big one was a 19” keeper. 082FB6A3-8456-4B8D-A334-2A38D813860B.webp37F91006-16D9-42A4-890D-5F17F1103B28.webp
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,665 postsSince 2018
Fluke Whisperer
11lber on the Snowgoose yesterday. The fish laying on top of the big one was a 19” keeper. View attachment 34339View attachment 34338
2 weeks ago John Skinner and friends were fishing off of Montauk in rick's 32 foot metal shark cc, guy up in the bow hooks up and lands a 15lb fluke according to the boga scale, officially it weighed in at 14.675 lbs. that's a fish of a life time.
First MateOriginal Crew508 postsSince 2019
Snapprhead27
2 weeks ago John Skinner and friends were fishing off of Montauk in rick's 32 foot metal shark cc, guy up in the bow hooks up and lands a 15lb fluke according to the boga scale, officially it weighed in at 14.675 lbs. that's a fish of a life time.
I saw that video....crazy!!
Commodore5,031 postsSince 2020
Chinacat
ChinacatFREE2021#454
So sorry to hear about Casey. 😢
We put down our yellow lab at 16 yrs old, 3 years ago and I'm still not over it....

The $90 for parts are an inconvenience but good thing it happened on land
At least I'm enjoyin' the ride.....
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,065 postsSince 2018
Leprechaun
LeprechaunMODnoreaster.com2021#455
Thank you Mitch. Much appreciated.
"Luck" is when preparation meets opportunity.
I prefer fishing evolution to fishing extinction.
If ya want to clean up the water, ya gotta get the pigs out of the creek.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,216 postsSince 2018
MOJOE
MOJOEMODnoreaster.com2021#456
lep sorry for casey,,,i just saw this,,, beautiful collie,,, ><)))):<
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EAT FISH LIVE LONGER >
AdmiralOriginal Crew25,821 postsSince 2018
Leprechaun
LeprechaunMODnoreaster.com2021#457
FINALLY!

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"Luck" is when preparation meets opportunity.
I prefer fishing evolution to fishing extinction.
If ya want to clean up the water, ya gotta get the pigs out of the creek.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,216 postsSince 2018
captmike28
Looking good. The Fluke are already getting nervous!!!🙂
CaptainOriginal Crew1,853 postsSince 2018
hartattack
Pt.Pleasant NJ report: after a quick 15 man limit (150) of quality size biscuits we tried ocean Fluking - no good. Made a quick move to fluke inside on the MAnasquan River , best action of the year so far . We had 8 keepers up to 24" and countless shorts in 90 minutes or so. Thursday b4 the NE winds came on....
Once in a while you can get shown the light
In the strangest of places if you look at it right
First MateOriginal Crew286 postsSince 2018
Leprechaun
LeprechaunMODnoreaster.com2021#460
First Fluke Trip "Non-Report"

Headed out today on my rig with George Scocca and Capt. Mike/Capt's Table. Sailed right to my best "open bottom" drop - and found this sitting squarely on it:

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So got as close as I could and began casting - first cast a decent 18" fish. Was feelin' it, but that was it for the day - no more fluke. We did shift here and there for a couple of hours, but it just didn't look like it would happen on the incoming. So we switched gears and went to the harder bottom for some ling jerkin'.

That turned out to be a tooth-pull as well, with us boxing maybe a dozen or so for our efforts - but not for lack of "other" fishies just killin' us. We must have slammed at least a bushel and a half of MAJOR-sized knuckleheads, all returned of course. Just couldn't get away from them, no matter where I shifted. Really beautiful-sized specimens - which of course will probably begin moving off as soon as the season opens on the 23rd. What a shame that our neighboring states, north and south have an open season right now - and we, here in NY are once again the red-headed stepchild! Just a sham that the same body of fish can be fished from a different geographic port and have no issues with LE.

Anyway, this one was fairly typical of the bruisers we caught today:

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The ocean fluke will be here soon enough I guess. Meantime I certainly will be targeting these big beasties as soon as I legally can.
"Luck" is when preparation meets opportunity.
I prefer fishing evolution to fishing extinction.
If ya want to clean up the water, ya gotta get the pigs out of the creek.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,216 postsSince 2018

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