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1996 Privateer Renegade I/O to Outboard Conversion

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Capt13
Capt13FREE2019#241
I also encountered something new to me in regard to stainless bolts ....... galling. I'll get to that later.

The bracket was put on with two bolts holding it. Even though they sent the mylar template for bolt hole locations for the central part of the bracket, I wanted to mark them myself using the bracket in place.

In order to be as acurrate as possible, I used a 1/2" dowel as a spacer/guide and drilled a 1/8" hole thru the middle.


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The red tape was added because the holes are actually slightly over sized for the 1/2" bolts. I think 17/32". The tape created a snug fit.

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After I marked all the holes, I went to take the bracket off. One bolt locked up and I could no longer turn the nut either way. That is how I learned about Galling.
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CaptainOriginal Crew2,530 postsSince 2018
JoeBfishing
It’s the truth, yea yea yes you to death then sure enough!?I was replying to the post prior to the latest one.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,902 postsSince 2018
wader
waderFREE2019#243
had to look that one up............
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AdmiralOriginal Crew20,900 postsSince 2018
Mbg75
Mbg75FREE2019#244
ARP makes an ultra torque fastener lube. Prevents Galling, allows proper torque without having to back off and re-torque.
Been using it for years, never an issue.

Info on it
ARP info

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DeckhandOriginal Crew32 postsSince 2019
Capt13
Capt13FREE2019#245
I'll give it a try, thanks for that !
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CaptainOriginal Crew2,530 postsSince 2018
Mbg75
Mbg75FREE2019#246
I'll give it a try, thanks for that !
If you need it right away. I may have some here.
DeckhandOriginal Crew32 postsSince 2019
Capt13
Capt13FREE2019#247
I appreciate the offer, but I have time ....... I still have to cut the bolt to remove the bracket. All the holes are marked and ready to be drilled. I'm a long way from bolting the bracket permanently to the transom.
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CaptainOriginal Crew2,530 postsSince 2018
Old Mud
Old MudFREE2019#248
Cappy, if you cant find the ARP you can use Never seize or even bacon fat. Glad your back at it.
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CommodoreOriginal Crew5,182 postsSince 2018
Fluke Whisperer
Hey ca
I also encountered something new to me in regard to stainless bolts ....... galling. I'll get to that later.

The bracket was put on with two bolts holding it. Even though they sent the mylar template for bolt hole locations for the central part of the bracket, I wanted to mark them myself using the bracket in place.

In order to be as acurrate as possible, I used a 1/2" dowel as a spacer/guide and drilled a 1/8" hole thru the middle.


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The red tape was added because the holes are actually slightly over sized for the 1/2" bolts. I think 17/32". The tape created a snug fit.

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After I marked all the holes, I went to take the bracket off. One bolt locked up and I could no longer turn the nut either way. That is how I learned about Galling.
Hey Capt13, you using fine or coarse thread, depending on the grade of the ss, certain grades are notorious for galling, I ran into that problem with 1/4x 20 ss bolts, 304 I think was the grade, there are 4 grades and hardness and some ss are to soft in my opinion to make fasteners.
First MateOriginal Crew508 postsSince 2019
Capt13
Capt13FREE2019#250
Not sure of the grade FW ...... they were supplied with the bracket from Stainless marine. They are coarse thread and have lock nuts with the nylon insert, which I have since read are more susceptible to galling.
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CaptainOriginal Crew2,530 postsSince 2018
Fluke Whisperer
Not sure of the grade FW ...... they were supplied with the bracket from Stainless marine. They are coarse thread and have lock nuts with the nylon insert, which I have since read are more susceptible to galling.
Yea, cheapest to make coarse thread, very problematic, never had problems with fine threads 1/4 20 yes 1/4 28 no.
First MateOriginal Crew508 postsSince 2019
Capt13
Capt13FREE2020#252
Happy to be back at it ! Drilled the holes for the bracket. Didn't trust myself free handing the drilling. Bought one of these:

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Started with a 3/16" bit to get started. Followed that with a 3/8" and the 17/32" recomended by Stainless Marine. Bolts are 1/2".

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CaptainOriginal Crew2,530 postsSince 2018
Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2020#253
Happy to be back at it ! Drilled the holes for the bracket. Didn't trust myself free handind the drilling. Bought one of these:

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Started with a 3/16" bit to get started. Followed that with a 3/8" and the 17/32" recomended by Stainless Marine. Bolts are 1/2".

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AdmiralOriginal Crew21,717 postsSince 2018
Capt13
Capt13FREE2020#254
After grinding down the rough glass and old fillets, added new fillets at the forward bulkhead connection, I finished the last of tabbing in of the new stringers ..... I normally like to work wet on wet but ran out of time ran when I was last working on it. Glass was applied on the fillets when they were still wet.

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CaptainOriginal Crew2,530 postsSince 2018
Capt13
Capt13FREE2020#255
I decided to re-work the transom transition area to accommodate the bracket bolt pattern rather than re-drill thru the powder coated bracket. Used an oversize hole saw to remove the 3/4" ply and also to cut new pieces. Glued in place with thickened epoxy.

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CaptainOriginal Crew2,530 postsSince 2018
cany
canyCOMMUNITYnoreaster.com2020#256
Looking good Capt
General cany, Watching always Watching
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AdmiralOriginal Crew41,114 postsSince 2018
JoeBfishing
What he said...
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,902 postsSince 2018
Capt13
Capt13FREE2020#258
Putting in a couple hours every day ......

Fitted cross members to anchor the new poly tank. Foaming in is not recommended because of the expansion that poly tanks experience.

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Glassed in the modification for the bracket mounting bolts.

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CaptainOriginal Crew2,530 postsSince 2018
Capt13
Capt13FREE2020#259
Removed this strip between tank and aft sections. It wasn't solid and as it turned out, it had a seam from two sections of the deck plywood.


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CaptainOriginal Crew2,530 postsSince 2018
Capt13
Capt13FREE2020#260
When they built the boat they got lucky this nail missed the fuel fill hose and vent line. The opening is where they were located.

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