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last year, 2 hours in first day, then 2 hours the next…
drivers side door was a bitch , extra switches and mirrors… self satisfaction… 😝😝😝
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... sand under my bare feet is better than subway steps with steel toe boots on... cellfish...
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... sand under my bare feet is better than subway steps with steel toe boots on... cellfish...
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CommodoreOriginal Crew18,289 postsSince 2019
last year, 2 hours in first day, then 2 hours the next…
drivers side door was a bitch , extra switches and mirrors… self satisfaction… 😝😝😝
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AdmiralOriginal Crew41,107 postsSince 2018
so..............
I spent the weekend at my brother's place in Richmond. When driving there on Friday - as I approched the
toll gates for the Chesapeake Bay Bridge & Tunnel I see an array of what looked like unmarked Police Vehicles straddling the toll plaza. As I got closer I saw that they were ICE vehicles.
They were pulling vehicles over.
One agent approached my car gesturing to roll down my window. I refused to comply.
I yelled through the window "why are you stopping me?"
"It's a random search for undocumented aliens."
"Do I look Hispanic or Haitian?"
"No."
"Do you think I'm hiding one in my trunk?"
"So why are you doing this?"
"I need to see some identification."
"Why?"
"Because I do."
"Can I see yours then?"
Because my car insurance is high enough already & I don't want to pay for a broken window - and to be honest - I was beginning to get REAL nervious as a second agent came up to the car - I pulled out my driver's license & put it up against the window .
He attempted to photograph it at which point I pulled it away from the window.
"I need to photograph it - put it back up."
"No you don't."
"We're done here."
At which point I pulled a Renee Good & joined 2 other cars & drove around him hoping the asshole doesn't shoot.
This is out of control......
Nothing like a Shakespearen actor to put it in perspective..
I spent the weekend at my brother's place in Richmond. When driving there on Friday - as I approched the
toll gates for the Chesapeake Bay Bridge & Tunnel I see an array of what looked like unmarked Police Vehicles straddling the toll plaza. As I got closer I saw that they were ICE vehicles.
They were pulling vehicles over.
One agent approached my car gesturing to roll down my window. I refused to comply.
I yelled through the window "why are you stopping me?"
"It's a random search for undocumented aliens."
"Do I look Hispanic or Haitian?"
"No."
"Do you think I'm hiding one in my trunk?"
"So why are you doing this?"
"I need to see some identification."
"Why?"
"Because I do."
"Can I see yours then?"
Because my car insurance is high enough already & I don't want to pay for a broken window - and to be honest - I was beginning to get REAL nervious as a second agent came up to the car - I pulled out my driver's license & put it up against the window .
He attempted to photograph it at which point I pulled it away from the window.
"I need to photograph it - put it back up."
"No you don't."
"We're done here."
At which point I pulled a Renee Good & joined 2 other cars & drove around him hoping the asshole doesn't shoot.
This is out of control......
Nothing like a Shakespearen actor to put it in perspective..
"Well, it's alright.
.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
AdmiralOriginal Crew20,900 postsSince 2018
First of all if this is true, then you’re nuts just do what you told when they pull you over or stop you and then you’ll be on your merry way
The Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution protects individuals against unreasonable searches and seizures by the government, generally requiring a warrant based on probable cause. It ensures the right to privacy in persons, houses, papers, and effects. While warrantless searches are often deemed unreasonable, exceptions exist, including consent, searches incident to arrest, and exigent circumstances.
as a matter of fact I was slowing down to take care of the toll...
they were there the end of January - right side of the page
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they were also there on my way home this afternoon....
"Well, it's alright.
.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
AdmiralOriginal Crew20,900 postsSince 2018
they no had NO right to pull me over - I was breaking no law
The Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution protects individuals against unreasonable searches and seizures by the government, generally requiring a warrant based on probable cause. It ensures the right to privacy in persons, houses, papers, and effects. While warrantless searches are often deemed unreasonable, exceptions exist, including consent, searches incident to arrest, and exigent circumstances.
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They ignore it for DWI checkpoints, they'll ignore it for this too. But I'll bet you think it's okay when they're looking for drunks.
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CaptainOriginal Crew3,431 postsSince 2019
They ignore it for DWI checkpoints, they'll ignore it for this too. But I'll bet you think it's okay when they're looking for drunks.
"Well, it's alright.
.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
AdmiralOriginal Crew20,900 postsSince 2018
if I'm drunk and showing signs of being drunk & showing signs of inebriation in my driving (you know - probable cause?)- fine -...
That's not the same as DWI checkpoints. Try again.
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CaptainOriginal Crew3,431 postsSince 2019
DUI/DWI checkpoints are
generally considered legal under federal law and constitutional standards, as they are not deemed to violate the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable search and seizure. They are, however, prohibited in some states and must follow strict guidelines—including being systematically conducted, authorized by supervisors, and well-signed—to remain lawful.
Legal Requirements and Limitations
For a checkpoint to be considered legal, it usually must meet specific criteria established by law, such as:
While you must stop and provide documentation (license, registration, proof of insurance), drivers have certain rights:
While roughly 37+ states allow these, some states prohibit them entirely. Always check local state laws.
generally considered legal under federal law and constitutional standards, as they are not deemed to violate the Fourth Amendment's protection against unreasonable search and seizure. They are, however, prohibited in some states and must follow strict guidelines—including being systematically conducted, authorized by supervisors, and well-signed—to remain lawful.
Legal Requirements and Limitations
For a checkpoint to be considered legal, it usually must meet specific criteria established by law, such as:
- Systematic Selection: Officers cannot arbitrarily pick cars; they must follow a neutral formula (e.g., stopping every third car).
- Safety and Notice: The checkpoint must be clearly marked with warning signs and have adequate, safe lighting.
- Supervisory Control: The operation must be approved and overseen by a supervisor.
- Reasonable Delay: The stop must be brief, designed to minimize intrusion on drivers.
While you must stop and provide documentation (license, registration, proof of insurance), drivers have certain rights:
- Right to Remain Silent: You are not required to answer questions about where you have been or if you have been drinking.
- Right to Refuse Searches: You can refuse a search of your vehicle unless the officer has probable cause.
- Field Sobriety Tests: You may refuse to perform field sobriety exercises, but this may lead to an arrest if the officer suspects impairment.
While roughly 37+ states allow these, some states prohibit them entirely. Always check local state laws.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,131 postsSince 2018
Am I typing in Greek?
The ICE checkpoint is no different than a DWI checkpoint. @wader is claiming random ICE checkpoints are a crime. He's also claiming they're not law enforcement. So wrong on two counts.
Personally I think any checkpoint where they're randomly fishing for something like DWIs is unconstitutional and a slippery slope that allows government overreach. But activist judges seem okay with ignoring the Constitution as long as it's for some perceived "good." I wonder if they would have been so cool with it if the original case had been about ICE instead of DWIs. Good intentions and the pavement on a certain road.
The ICE checkpoint is no different than a DWI checkpoint. @wader is claiming random ICE checkpoints are a crime. He's also claiming they're not law enforcement. So wrong on two counts.
Personally I think any checkpoint where they're randomly fishing for something like DWIs is unconstitutional and a slippery slope that allows government overreach. But activist judges seem okay with ignoring the Constitution as long as it's for some perceived "good." I wonder if they would have been so cool with it if the original case had been about ICE instead of DWIs. Good intentions and the pavement on a certain road.
Chrome warns this may be a phishing site. Well, Duh,... Stupid jerks can't even spell fishing right.
CaptainOriginal Crew3,431 postsSince 2019
SMH, driving is not a privilege in any state and stopping you to produce documents stating you can drive is not a constitutional wrong.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,131 postsSince 2018
ya see my left rear window, it’s taped to keep it in up position, parts on order.
( regulator ) stupid plastic gear melts down after 80,000 miles, as it is a very common problem…
6 months earlier, the passenger front went and 6 months before that ( 1 year ago ) drivers side failed…
drivers side was a bitch, 2 men 4 hours… first time attempts…
this go round should be easier…
i may just 2 part epoxy the 4th door… cell…
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Shall I go to heaven or a-fishing? - H. D. Thoreau
Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,717 postsSince 2018
Driving is a privilege, not a right as it is a legally regulated activity requiring a license, adherence to traffic laws, and passing tests. It is granted by the state and can be suspended, revoked, or restricted if you violate safety regulations. Unlike constitutional rights, it is not guaranteed.
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CommodoreOriginal Crew6,097 postsSince 2019
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