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Peconic Start Fleet Closes

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george
georgeADMINSep 17#1
We're loosing it all. One piece at a time.

CommodoreOriginal Crew5,158 postsSince 2018
OVERBORED
OVERBOREDFREESep 17#2
We're loosing it all. One piece at a time.

Plain&simple, Speedy sold the boat. He's done it countless times before. His motto is "show me the money!".

Hopefully he'll be replaced but today's casual angler can get more bang for the buck elsewhere.
Captain4,156 postsSince 2021
george
georgeADMINSep 17#3
Plain&simple, Speedy sold the boat. He's done it countless times before. His motto is "show me the money!".

Hopefully he'll be replaced but today's casual angler can get more bang for the buck elsewhere.

@captmike28 knows more about this, but there is a huge change underway as marinas evict more and more charter, party and commercial operations on the Fork. All part of the "revitalization"

I've always known Speedy for always paying his advertising bills on time πŸ™‚
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,158 postsSince 2018
captmike28
captmike28FREESep 18#4
@captmike28 knows more about this, but there is a huge change underway as marinas evict more and more charter, party and commercial operations on the Fork. All part of the "revitalization"

I've always known Speedy for always paying his advertising bills on time πŸ™‚
I heard about this late yesterday from one of my colleagues at Orient.

First of all, Speedy is almost 90 according to one of his Captain's whom I also know. He has been trying to sell the boats for a long time. Both boats were sold to the owner of the Frances Fleet in RI and one is already gone. The second one will probably head north this week.

Regardless of what the newspaper said as to whose fault it was, my understanding is that there will not be another Party Boat or Charter boat occupying their slip at the RR dock in the future. So, as Geroge, and many of us have seen for a long time now, the current generation of wealthy businessman don't want fisherman to be a part of their waterfront dream!

Hard to believe but as of this latest change, there are now no more Party/Open boats left on the North Fork! Very sad to see this decades old tradition end.
CaptainOriginal Crew1,847 postsSince 2018
george
georgeADMINSep 18#5
It truly is a sad day. I’ve said it before -we’re losing it all right before our eyes, yet somehow we still don’t see it
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,158 postsSince 2018
Snapprhead27
Snapprhead27FREEOct 19#6
Captain4,988 postsSince 2020
captmike28
captmike28FREEOct 24#7
I did not see this article but received confirmation from another North Fork Captain that this is indeed the case.
While the larger and newer of the Peconic Stars vessels was sold to Frances Fleet in RI, it appears that Capt. Speedy is not out of business just yet. That's a good thing for the angling public.
CaptainOriginal Crew1,847 postsSince 2018
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OVERBOREDFREEOct 24#8
My dad loved fishing on the PS well into his 90s! He'd drive out from Queens. Hes 96 now with dimentia but every so often he regales stories of his trips to the north fork. I'm glad they're working things out.
Captain4,156 postsSince 2021
Roccus7
Roccus7MODOct 25#9
While the larger and newer of the Peconic Stars vessels was sold to Frances Fleet in RI, it appears that Capt. Speedy is not out of business just yet. That's a good thing for the angling public.
One needs to consider the changes in the fisheries and the regulatory environment. No matter what's going on with the waterfront pressures, the classic Party Boat business model of "Come aboard and you'll leave with a mess o' fish!" is probably facing extinction.

Just not sure how to exorcise that demon, but if a North Folk PB could increase its share of the current NoFo weekend tourist. Maybe something along the lines of "Have your Bachelorette and/or Bachelor Party", while providing a scenic Booze Cruise, a few days a week, may help keep PBs afloat and let them fish on weekdays??
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
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OVERBOREDFREEOct 25#10
PB is and always will be a relatively inexpensive way for anyone to enjoy fishing and catching. Not everyone lives in suburbia with a boat docked behind the house. Lol
Captain4,156 postsSince 2021
Roccus7
Roccus7MODOct 25#11
PB is and always will be a relatively inexpensive way for anyone to enjoy fishing and catching. Not everyone lives in suburbia with a boat docked behind the house. Lol
If you're insinuating that I live in Suburbia, you're a bit off, I'm in the boonies. The General can confirm as well as Mike H. with my town's population density of 36 per square mile. That's something way short of the normal population density of 1,000 - 3,000 that defines a suburb...

But I digress. As regulations continue to erode bag limits, many long time PB anglers who depend on those trips for putting away some fish in the freezer may start to figure out the fish market is lot more cost effective. As costs rise for the PB Owners there becomes a price point where the fares will drop off.

This will be a tragic day, but if some operations can adapt by running a few booze or sight seeing cruises per week, it make take the edge off the classic business model of fill the rails and fill the coolers.
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
longcast
longcastFREEOct 25#12
Well said
AdmiralOriginal Crew20,411 postsSince 2019
OVERBORED
OVERBOREDFREEOct 26#13
If you're insinuating that I live in Suburbia, you're a bit off, I'm in the boonies. The General can confirm as well as Mike H. with my town's population density of 36 per square mile. That's something way short of the normal population density of 1,000 - 3,000 that defines a suburb...

But I digress. As regulations continue to erode bag limits, many long time PB anglers who depend on those trips for putting away some fish in the freezer may start to figure out the fish market is lot more cost effective. As costs rise for the PB Owners there becomes a price point where the fares will drop off.

This will be a tragic day, but if some operations can adapt by running a few booze or sight seeing cruises per week, it make take the edge off the classic business model of fill the rails and fill the coolers.
Fishing on a PB for many is about so much more than filling a cooler. For many like myself it was a bonding experience with my dad and over the years we've met so many people many of which became lifelong friends.
Captain4,156 postsSince 2021
Snapprhead27
Snapprhead27FREEJan 10#14
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