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longcast

JNL Multi Manager Alternative A

So the fees add up to 3.56% of asset value annually, with a one year return of 1.35%? Pulled this right from what you posted.

What am I missing?

But, VIGAX - 10 year return 19.29% - and an "all in" operating expense of .05%.

AdmiralOriginal Crew20,417 postsSince 2019
movetheboat

you're not very bright....I'm not looking for performance,,,,I'm looking for capital preservation in this market.....if we get the decline I EXPECT I will be positioned to switch to aggressive funds like small cap/mid cap/tech without having taken a huge beating....I can't help you anymore then that...that fund is a small percent of that strategy,,,I have already been spared from most of this carnage...now the question is where will we bottom

buy what you want...and please do tell us LMFAO!! And good luck...you will need it

p.s. that multi manager fund is not available to YOU!

CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018
CELLFISH

LONGCAST,

open a Vanguard account online… easy peasy, have banking routing number ready… representatives are available… fund gets credited at close of day… C22…
.

.
... sand under my bare feet is better than subway steps with steel toe boots on... cellfish...
.
CommodoreOriginal Crew18,289 postsSince 2019
CELLFISH

JNL Multi Manager Alternative A

So the fees add up to 3.56% of asset value annually, with a one year return of 1.35%? Pulled this right from what you posted.

What am I missing?

But, VIGAX - 10 year return 19.29% - and an "all in" operating expense of .05%.

Ya can sleep easy this way… C22…

.
... sand under my bare feet is better than subway steps with steel toe boots on... cellfish...
.
CommodoreOriginal Crew18,289 postsSince 2019
longcast

you're not very bright....I'm not looking for performance,,,,I'm looking for capital preservation in this market.....if we get the decline I EXPECT I will be positioned to switch to aggressive funds like small cap/mid cap/tech without having taken a huge beating....I can't help you anymore then that...that fund is a small percent of that strategy,,,I have already been spared from most of this carnage...now the question is where will we bottom

buy what you want...and please do tell us LMFAO!! And good luck...you will need it

p.s. that multi manager fund is not available to YOU!

Oh, stop with the name calling. Your angry because I am bright and noticed the fees! If you want to preserve capital at a cost of 356 basis points, by all means do it. It is your strategy.

At 356 basis point, not sure I would want it!! The holdings/sectors shown are nothing exotic. Easily matched up with let's say, a fee of maybe 20-30 basis points.

[HEADING=3]Top Sectors--09/30/21[/HEADING]

[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD]Sub-acct[/TD]
[TD]Bmark[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Cyclical icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/cyclicalH.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Cyclical[/TD]
[TD]34.72%[/TD]
[TD]0.00%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Basic Materials icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/basicM.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Basic Materials[/TD]
[TD]4.88%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Consumer Cyclical icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/consumerCycle.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Consumer Cyclical[/TD]
[TD]11.58%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Financial Services icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/finServices.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Financial Services[/TD]
[TD]16.67%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Real Estate icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/realEstate.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Real Estate[/TD]
[TD]1.59%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Sensitive icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/sensitiveH.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Sensitive[/TD]
[TD]47.94%[/TD]
[TD]0.00%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Communication Services icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/commServices.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Communication Services[/TD]
[TD]13.69%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Energy icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/energy.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Energy[/TD]
[TD]1.93%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Industrials icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/industrials.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Industrials[/TD]
[TD]10.38%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Technology icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/technology.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Technology[/TD]
[TD]21.94%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Defensive icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/defensiveH.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Defensive[/TD]
[TD]17.35%[/TD]
[TD]0.00%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Consumer Defensive icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/consumerDefensive.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Consumer Defensive[/TD]
[TD]5.49%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Healthcare icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/healthcare.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Healthcare[/TD]
[TD]10.95%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Utilities"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/utilities.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Utilities[/TD]
[TD]0.91%[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

AdmiralOriginal Crew20,417 postsSince 2019
cany
canyCOMMUNITYnoreaster.com2022#2166

LONGCAST,

open a Vanguard account online… easy peasy, have banking routing number ready… representatives are available… fund gets credited at close of day… C22…
.

What is a Vanguard account?

General cany, Watching always Watching
CornField
AdmiralOriginal Crew41,114 postsSince 2018
movetheboat

THEY WROTE A BOOK FOR GUYS LIKE YOU LC...happy reading

CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018
movetheboat

Oh, stop with the name calling. Your angry because I am bright and noticed the fees! If you want to preserve capital at a cost of 356 basis points, by all means do it. It is your strategy.

At 356 basis point, not sure I would want it!! The holdings/sectors shown are nothing exotic. Easily matched up with let's say, a fee of maybe 20-30 basis points.

[HEADING=3]Top Sectors--09/30/21[/HEADING]

[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD][/TD]

[TD]Sub-acct[/TD]
[TD]Bmark[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Cyclical icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/cyclicalH.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Cyclical[/TD]
[TD]34.72%[/TD]
[TD]0.00%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Basic Materials icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/basicM.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Basic Materials[/TD]
[TD]4.88%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Consumer Cyclical icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/consumerCycle.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Consumer Cyclical[/TD]
[TD]11.58%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Financial Services icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/finServices.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Financial Services[/TD]
[TD]16.67%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Real Estate icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/realEstate.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Real Estate[/TD]
[TD]1.59%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Sensitive icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/sensitiveH.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Sensitive[/TD]
[TD]47.94%[/TD]
[TD]0.00%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Communication Services icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/commServices.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Communication Services[/TD]
[TD]13.69%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Energy icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/energy.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Energy[/TD]
[TD]1.93%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Industrials icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/industrials.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Industrials[/TD]
[TD]10.38%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Technology icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/technology.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Technology[/TD]
[TD]21.94%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Defensive icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/defensiveH.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Defensive[/TD]
[TD]17.35%[/TD]
[TD]0.00%[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Consumer Defensive icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/consumerDefensive.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Consumer Defensive[/TD]
[TD]5.49%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Healthcare icon"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/healthcare.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Healthcare[/TD]
[TD]10.95%[/TD]
[TD]--[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD][IMG alt="Utilities"]https://www.jackson.com/static/jwp/images/morningstar/icons/sector/utilities.gif[/IMG][/TD]
[TD]Utilities[/TD]
[TD]0.91%[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

thanks for your concern....save me a spot in ur trailer if it don't work out :)

CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018
longcast

Your always welcome!

AdmiralOriginal Crew20,417 postsSince 2019
movetheboat

tell cany what a vanguard account is...since ur being sooooo helpful

CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018
longcast

Nah, you the guru. Run with it!

AdmiralOriginal Crew20,417 postsSince 2019
movetheboat

SPEAKING OF gurus ....you just reminded me

CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018
CELLFISH

What is a Vanguard account?

Vanguard is the name of a financial company, like “ so many “
other companies… Vanguard is know to have low operating expenses. they ain’t greedy… open an acouunt Glen as 401k or something else… C22…

.
... sand under my bare feet is better than subway steps with steel toe boots on... cellfish...
.
CommodoreOriginal Crew18,289 postsSince 2019
movetheboat

Nah, you the guru. Run with it!

thanks!!! glad you defer to those who know

CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018
CELLFISH

go away…

.
... sand under my bare feet is better than subway steps with steel toe boots on... cellfish...
.
CommodoreOriginal Crew18,289 postsSince 2019
cany
canyCOMMUNITYnoreaster.com2022#2176

Vanguard is the name of a financial company, like “ so many “
other companies… Vanguard is know to have low operating expenses. they ain’t greedy… open an acouunt Glen as 401k or something else… C22…

We need to talk about this

General cany, Watching always Watching
CornField
AdmiralOriginal Crew41,114 postsSince 2018
movetheboat

Nah, you the guru. Run with it!

true...thanks

CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018
movetheboat

We need to talk about this

yeah start a vanguard thread

CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018
CELLFISH

We need to talk about this

DESEDY, RICK, BENNY seem more knowledgeable too…

the funds I posted there are industry wide diversified for Safety and Growth… long term ya can’t lose… C22…
.

.
... sand under my bare feet is better than subway steps with steel toe boots on... cellfish...
.
CommodoreOriginal Crew18,289 postsSince 2019
movetheboat

DESEDY, RICK, BENNY seem more knowledgeable too…

the funds I posted there are industry wide diversified for Safety and Growth… long term ya can’t lose… C22…
.

sure you can't!!! lol!!!!! you sound like a broker

CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018

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