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How thoughtful, you get a "gentlemen start your dripping" warning too to help those owning abodes with inadequate insulation? ? ? ?

has nothing to do with inadequate insulation & everything to do with the fact that there are no basements due to the high water level on the Peninsula & everything to do with the fact that water pipes for the most part are exposed to the elements (run under the house)....

Why do you folks have so much trouble comprehending things like that?

You live in Maine. Probably have a basement. Probably have all of your water connections in your basement.
If they were running under your house - exposed to outdoor temperatures you'd be dripping as well.

My bad wader posted it was 90 and AC on then you posted about an alert to conserve electric between 4 and 7 . I thought the two would be connected didnt know it was about doing laundry in the morning and dishes in the evening.

Is the conserving between 4am and 7 pm?

And I agree the electric bill sucks here Im glad I went to balanced billing

My electric bills average $75 a month for heating, cooling, cooking, turning on the lights, etc.
I paid $250 in NY with no AC or Heating being part of that. I paid another $200 for oil to heat the house. That's $450 a month vs. $75 for more use or a savings of $375 a month - $4500 a year.

Wanna talk taxes?

has nothing to do with inadequate insulation & everything to do with the fact that there are no basements due to the high water level on the Peninsula & everything to do with the fact that water pipes for the most part are exposed to the elements (run under the house)....

Why do you folks have so much trouble comprehending things like that?

You live in Maine. Probably have a basement. Probably have all of your water connections in your basement.
If they were running under your house - exposed to outdoor temperatures you'd be dripping as well.

WRONG!!! Many houses in Maine are on slabs so your basement treatise is incorrect. And to complicate things most people have their own wells...

Got another excuse for inadequate insulation, be it pipes and/or houses???

WRONG!!! Many houses in Maine are on slabs so your basement treatise is incorrect.

Got another excuse for inadequate insulation, be it pipes or houses???

how is it incorrect when the house is raised up a foot or so off the ground - the pipes run under the house suspended from the flooring - how do you insulate that short of stuffing the entire underside of the house with insulation?

Whatever the temperature is outside is what the temperature is under the house?
Apparently this is an issue in Maine as well.

[URL unfurl="true"]https://townsendre.com/avoid-frozen-pipes-maine-winter/#:~:text=Let%20cold%20water%20drip%20from,pipes%20from%20freezing%20and%20bursting[/URL]

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.maine.gov/mema/maine-prepares/home-preparedness/preventing-thawing-frozen-pipes[/URL]

and why the hell does everything on here have to be fight?

My electric bills average $75 a month for heating, cooling, cooking, turning on the lights, etc.
I paid $250 in NY with no AC or Heating being part of that. I paid another $200 for oil to heat the house. That's $450 a month vs. $75 for more use or a savings of $375 a month - $4500 a year.

Wanna talk taxes?

Nope heard it all before....... I was just curious about as soon as the AC's go on your asked to conserve electricity seemed strange to me

Nope heard it all before....... I was just curious about as soon as the AC's go on your asked to conserve electricity seemed strange to me

again - as John already said (and you seemed to understand it when he said it) - we are not being asked to conserve electricity - they are giving us the option to save some money by deferring certain uses for times of less demand - we can choose to take advantage of that or not - it is our choice

Yes, folks on double wides put in FROST WALLS to protect their pipes. It's INSULATION!! Some even use bales of hay around the crawl space to INSULATE.

If you read you little Emergency Thingie, it's big on INSULATION, oh what a concept...

*Frozen water pipes aren't life threatening, however frozen or broken water pipes do cause damage to homes each winter. If pipes in the walls aren't properly insulated, they can freeze and rupture. (An 1/8-inch crack in a pipe can release up to 250 gallons of water a day, soaking floors, rugs, and furniture.) To prevent the mess and aggravation frozen pipes cause, protect your home or apartment by following the simple steps below.

[SIZE=6]Before Cold Weather[/SIZE]*
[LIST]
[]Locate and insulate pipes most susceptible to freezing, typically those near outer walls, in crawl spaces or in the attic. Use insulation made especially for this purpose.*
[]Wrap pipes with heat tape (UL-approved).*
[]Seal any leaks that allow cold air inside where pipes are located.*
[]Disconnect garden hoses and shut off and drain water from pipes leading to outside faucets. This reduces the chance of freezing in the short span of pipe just inside the house.*
[/LIST]
No fight, you're the one that likes to gloss over things with a "that's normal" when they really could be prevented with proper, basic, good building practices. You don't need to have a basement to have to drip faucets when it gets a little below freezing, folks just need to insulate properly Furthermore better home insulation will help your heat pumps and keep the house cool/warm whenever the season, saving you money...

Yes, folks on double wides put in FROST WALLS to protect their pipes. It's INSULATION!! Some even use bales of hay around the crawl space to INSULATE.

If you read you little Emergency Thingie, it's big on INSULATION, oh what a concept...

*Frozen water pipes aren't life threatening, however frozen or broken water pipes do cause damage to homes each winter. If pipes in the walls aren't properly insulated, they can freeze and rupture. (An 1/8-inch crack in a pipe can release up to 250 gallons of water a day, soaking floors, rugs, and furniture.) To prevent the mess and aggravation frozen pipes cause, protect your home or apartment by following the simple steps below.

[SIZE=6]Before Cold Weather[/SIZE]*
[LIST]
[]Locate and insulate pipes most susceptible to freezing, typically those near outer walls, in crawl spaces or in the attic. Use insulation made especially for this purpose.*
[]Wrap pipes with heat tape (UL-approved).*
[]Seal any leaks that allow cold air inside where pipes are located.*
[]Disconnect garden hoses and shut off and drain water from pipes leading to outside faucets. This reduces the chance of freezing in the short span of pipe just inside the house.*
[/LIST]
No fight, you're the one that likes to gloss over things with a "that's normal" when they really could be prevented with proper, basic, good building practices. You don't need to have a basement to have to drip faucets when it gets a little below freezing, folks just need to insulate properly Furthermore better home insulation will help your heat pumps and keep the house cool/warm whenever the season, saving you money...

My home (along with very many others - Town got it's Charter in 1680) was built in the late 1800's/early 1900's - to what was then considered "good building practices" for that era.

There is anywhere around 8 to 12 inches of clearance between the ground (like in earth) & the house itself. You can barley get under there - I can't - never mind stuffing it with hay (which will draw insects like mad) or attempting to wrap the pipes.

The interior of my home is well insulated - it was redone about 10 years ago - all plaster walls removed - walls insulated & new sheet rock installed. I replaced all the windows when I moved in here.

Both neighbors on either side of me have had their pipes go during an extended absence & guess what? The interior pipes did not go - it was the pipes under the house that went. Their homes date to approximately the same time period as mine.

It is a common problem here.
One that is easily negated by dripping your pipes when necessary (maybe 2 or 3 times a season).

it rarely gets below freezing down here for more then a day or two at a time

1st 90 degree day down here - A/C on..............

This months bill..lol

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Nope heard it all before....... I was just curious about as soon as the AC's go on your asked to conserve electricity seemed strange to me

ANEC Electric is a cooperative meaning it's owned by the members it supplies electric to,so that message was sent to the company owners for obvious reasons,to save money and run more efficiently...

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ANEC Electric is a cooperative meaning it's owned by the members it supplies electric to,so that message was sent to the company owners for obvious reasons,to save money and run more efficiently...

Got that Might be better to not use AC down there ya know save money run more efficently after all AC is not a necessity just like a dish washer

Got that Might be better to not use AC down there ya know save money run more efficently after all AC is not a necessity just like a dish washer

I'm sorry, at this point you just aren't making any sense. All this nonsense began when Wader said it hit 90 degrees and I commented that I figured that when I got an alert from the electric co-op. For the life of me, I can't understand the reason for the constant badgering. What is the issue?

I'm sorry, at this point you just aren't making any sense. All this nonsense began when Wader said it hit 90 degrees and I commented that I figured that when I got an alert from the electric co-op. For the life of me, I can't understand the reason for the constant badgering. What is the issue?

No issue really 90 ac's go on you get text alerts to conserve electricity wanna conserve wash dishes by hand dont use AC which is a luxury like a dish washer think of all the money the coop will save if everyone did it seems simple too me cant afford it dont need it dont use it

"All this nonsense began when Wader said it hit 90 degrees " Love that part

"All this nonsense began when Wader said it hit 90 degrees " Love that part

Why do you love that part? He made a post about the temperature outside?

I still don't get it ...........

Some more on the Electric Cooperative & how it works.....

This is why we get notifications suggesting we alter our usage during peak periods. They budget in electrical purchases to cover for peak periods. If not all of it is used - they have excess.
When operating expenses are less then what was projected/budgeted for - the excess funds are returned to its customers (or members) in the form of credits on their electric bills.

[SIZE=5]A&N To Return Capital Credits in June Bills [/SIZE]

Due to the difficult time many are facing during the COVID-19 outbreak, A&N Electric Cooperative board of directors voted to return capital credits in June instead of August this year.

As a not-for-profit utility company, each year, revenues that exceed expenses (margins) are returned to members. The cooperative typically returns capital credits to its members in August, but the board of directors elected to expedite refunds to June to help members dealing with the current state of emergency.

Refunds will be shown as a credit on an active member’s June bill statement and will vary based on length of membership and the amount of electricity used during the years retired. A total of $2.5 million in capital credits will be returned to eligible cooperative members. In March, the cooperative suspended service disconnects and related fees for residential members throughout the state of emergency and have been working diligently with members to help find payment solutions for those who need them.

To set up a payment arrangement or extension, call 757-787-9750.
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Eastern Shore Post
June 5, 2020*

and in other news...................

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.easternshorepost.com/2020/06/02/onancock-extends-meals-tax-suspension-closes-street-to-provide-weekend-outdoor-dining/[/URL]

[SIZE=2]North Street in Onancock, Va., on Tuesday, June 2, 2020. Photo by Carol Vaughn [/SIZE]

I was on the Zoom conference call when the Town Council & Mayor voted to do this. It was a pretty big hit last night when I stopped by.
All of the tables in the street were filled & social distancing protocols were being followed. Lights had been strung across the street from building to building.

Local band was out playing on the Blarney Stone patio.

*"That concludes this afternoon's news....
Reporting from Onancock this is wader signing off."*