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[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/biden-pardons-fauci-milley-cheney-jan-6-trump-rcna188447[/URL]
[]('https://www.msnbc.com/author/glenn-kirschner-ncpn885506')
[Glenn Kirschner]('https://www.msnbc.com/author/glenn-kirschner-ncpn885506')
Glenn Kirschner, a former assistant U.S. attorney for Washington, D.C., is an NBC News and MSNBC legal analyst.

Some interesting takeaways...............

[This unprecedented move by Biden]('https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/biden-issues-preemptive-pardons-milley-fauci-jan-6-panel-members-polic-rcna188368') may feel good in the moment, perhaps providing some future protection for those he pardoned against newly inaugurated [President Donald Trump’s incessant threats of retribution]('https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/sen-durbin-focuses-trump-s-threats-of-retribution-at-bondi-hearing-229359173635'). But in the long run, Biden’s pardoning the innocent could spark a democracy-damaging cycle of pardons by Trump and presidents to come.

However, Biden’s pardons will provide only limited protection. Those pardoned can still be nefariously audited. They can still be criminally investigated, even if they can’t be prosecuted. They can be dragged before Congress and made to testify. In other words, they could still be put on the hook for legal fees, not to mention the stress, emotional turmoil and reputational harm to those who are vindictively pursued, while knowing they’ve done nothing wrong. (***some opinion there about "done nothing wrong", but whatever)

Unpersuaded by such statements, Republican politicians are declaring that [Biden’s pardons prove that the recipients committed crimes]('https://thehill.com/homenews/5096459-republicans-investigate-biden-pardons/'). Such claims may have some superficial (even if only specious) support in Burdick v. United States, a Supreme Court case from more than 100 years ago. In that case, the court observed that a pardon carries with it “an imputation of guilt and acceptance (of a pardon) a confession of (guilt).”***

AdmiralOriginal Crew20,417 postsSince 2019
Rick67
Rick67FREE2025#12023

Mark Milley telling China he would call them if we were to attack them was a treasonous act.

Lloyd Austin going AWOL was also an act of treason.
Both made racial and political rants publicly to fit into the woke crowd.
No pardon I’m sorry. Both deserve the gallows.

KFA-NY BOD.
Yellow Eyed Devils.
Yak Pack.
CommodoreOriginal Crew6,097 postsSince 2019
wader
waderFREE2025#12024

so what changed.....................

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"Well, it's alright.
.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
AdmiralOriginal Crew20,900 postsSince 2018
wader
waderFREE2025#12025

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/cheney-responds-trump-neither-lies-214513486.html[/URL]

"Well, it's alright.
.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
AdmiralOriginal Crew20,900 postsSince 2018
cany
canyCOMMUNITYnoreaster.com2025#12026

so what changed.....................

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General cany, Watching always Watching
CornField
AdmiralOriginal Crew41,109 postsSince 2018
wader
waderFREE2025#12027

so you're ok with a Hypocrite-In-Chief - got it!
:rolleyes:

Ever wonder what else he lied to you about?

Probably doesn't matter.

Drink Up!

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"Well, it's alright.
.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
AdmiralOriginal Crew20,900 postsSince 2018
OVERBORED

Trump can lie from now until the end of time and it would pale in comparison to the treasonous lies of Biden and Clinton

"Chance only favors the prepared mind" - Pasteur
Captain4,161 postsSince 2021
cany
canyCOMMUNITYnoreaster.com2025#12029

so you're ok with a Hypocrite-In-Chief - got it!
:rolleyes:

Ever wonder what else he lied to you about?

Probably doesn't matter.

Drink Up!

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General cany, Watching always Watching
CornField
AdmiralOriginal Crew41,109 postsSince 2018
Rick67
Rick67FREE2025#12030

so you're ok with a Hypocrite-In-Chief - got it!
:rolleyes:

Ever wonder what else he lied to you about?

Probably doesn't matter.

Drink Up!

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KFA-NY BOD.
Yellow Eyed Devils.
Yak Pack.
CommodoreOriginal Crew6,097 postsSince 2019
Rick67
Rick67FREE2025#12033

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Trump’s State Department enacts "One Flag Policy" for all U.S. outposts in the world

No more BLM or sodomy flags

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KFA-NY BOD.
Yellow Eyed Devils.
Yak Pack.
CommodoreOriginal Crew6,097 postsSince 2019
Avenger
Avengernoreaster.com2025#12034

so what changed.....................

Couldn't have anything to do with the Don of the Biden family passing out pardons like a PEZ dispenser, even to people who haven't been charged with a crime, could it?

Couldn't be because they didn't do fugall to the "cop" that murdered Ashli Babbitt, proving that justice isn't administered equally, could it?

Chrome warns this may be a phishing site. Well, Duh,... Stupid jerks can't even spell fishing right.
CaptainOriginal Crew3,431 postsSince 2019
Rick67
Rick67FREE2025#12035

attachment 90337And he was given stipends and a promotion while the guy that did not kill George Floyd went to jail along with the three others also following trained restraint methods and protocols.

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KFA-NY BOD.
Yellow Eyed Devils.
Yak Pack.
CommodoreOriginal Crew6,097 postsSince 2019
Avenger
Avengernoreaster.com2025#12036

attachment 90337And he was given stipends and a promotion while the guy that did not kill George Floyd went to jail along with the three others also following trained restraint methods and protocols.

Every cop I know agrees that was a bad shooting and if the demographics were reversed they'd be treating that guy just like Chauvin.

Chrome warns this may be a phishing site. Well, Duh,... Stupid jerks can't even spell fishing right.
CaptainOriginal Crew3,431 postsSince 2019
movetheboat

BREAKING: House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries torches Donald Trump for his stunningly corrupt blanket pardon of the January 6th insurrectionists and puts the entire Republican Party on notice.
This is exactly the kind of leadership we need right now...
[SIZE=7]"House Republicans are celebrating pardons issued to a bloodthirsty mob that violently assaulted police officers on January 6, 2021. What happened to backing the Blue?"[/SIZE] Jeffries posted on Threads.
[SIZE=5]"Far right extremists have become the party of lawlessness and disorder. Don’t ever lecture America again," he continued. "About anything."[/SIZE]
These pardons are the dawn of a new age of lawlessness in America and this is what MAGA voted for. Don't ever let them lecture you about law and order ever again.[U] They are the party of felons and of assaulting police officers.[/U]

CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018
movetheboat

[HEADING=2]Convicted US Capitol rioter turns down Trump pardon[/HEADING]

One of the people who served jail time for taking part in the US Capitol riot four years ago has refused a pardon from President Donald Trump, saying: [SIZE=7]"We were wrong that day."[/SIZE]
Pamela Hemphill, who pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 60 days in prison, told the BBC that there should be no pardons for the riot on 6 January 2021.
[U]**"Accepting a pardon would only insult the Capitol police officers, rule of law and, of course, our nation," she said.
"I pleaded guilty because I was guilty, and accepting a pardon also would serve to contribute to their gaslighting and false narrative."**[/U]

[SIZE=5]Hemphill, who was nicknamed the "Maga granny" by social media users - in reference to Trump's "make America great again" slogan - said she saw the Trump government as trying to "rewrite history and I don't want to be part of that".[/SIZE]

"We were wrong that day, we broke the law - there should be no pardons," she told the BBC World Service's Newsday programme.
Trump's decision to pardon or commute the sentences of nearly 1,600 people involved in the attempt to violently overturn the 2020 election came just hours into his presidency.
In a news conference on Tuesday at the White House, he said: "These people have already served years in prison, and they've served them viciously.
"It's a disgusting prison. It's been horrible. It's inhumane. It's been a terrible, terrible thing."
However, the move has drawn an uneasy reaction from some Republican politicians.
Senator Thom Tillis, from North Carolina, said he "just can't agree" with the move, adding that it "raises legitimate safety issues on Capitol Hill".
Another Republican US senator, James Lankford from Oklahoma, told CNN: "I think we need to continue to say we are a party of law and order."
He added: "I think if you attack a police officer, that's a very serious issue and they should pay a price for that."

Also among those pardoned was one of the riot's most recognisable figures, Jacob Chansley, the self-styled QAnon Shaman, who was released from jail in 2023 after serving 27 months of his 41-month jail sentence.

He told the BBC that he heard the news from his lawyer while he was at the gym.

He added: "I walked outside and I screamed 'freedom' at the top of my lungs and then gave a good Native American war cry."

CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018
movetheboat

[HEADING=2]'I just can't agree': Trump's Jan. 6 pardons face pushback from some Republican senators[/HEADING]
Some Republicans on Capitol Hill were particularly critical of the pardons for those convicted of assaulting police officers, while others declined to defend Trump's move.

Some of the GOP senators specifically criticized the pardons for those convicted of committing violence against police officers, while others declined to defend Trump's move.

“I’m disappointed to see that,” said Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, adding that she is thinking about the hundreds of police officers who defended the Capitol that day. “And I do fear the message that is sent to these great men and women that stood by us.”

'I just can't agree': Trump's Jan. 6 pardons face pushback from some Republican senators

“I think that whether you’re in Baton Rouge, New Orleans, Shreveport, Monroe, Lafayette, Alexandria, Lake Charles or Washington, D.C., it’s wrong to assault anybody — but certainly to assault an officer,” added Sen. Bill Cassidy, R-La. “I’m a big back-the-blue guy.”

DISGRACEFUL DAY IN U.S. HISTORY

CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018
movetheboat

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[Alice Tecotzky]('https://www.businessinsider.com/author/alice-tecotzky')
Jan 20, 2025, 12:58 PM EST

Elon Musk's DOGE hit with 3 lawsuits just minutes after Trump becomes president

CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018

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