Coronavirus

Hey maybe some lady Gwen will apply.

Looks like a photoshop special

Looks like a photoshop special

Ya think?? I wish this one wasn't true. Scary that he is a licensed pharmacist, because he obviously flunked the protein synthesis section of biochemistry...

[HEADING=2]Pharmacist Accused of Tampering With Vaccine Was Conspiracy Theorist, Police Say[/HEADING]
The police say a Wisconsin pharmacist believed the Moderna vaccine would harm people and tried to sabotage the effort to vaccinate frontline workers.

[IMG alt="A pharmacist was arrested on charges that he intentionally sabotaged more than 500 doses of the Covid-19 vaccine at the Aurora Medical Center in Grafton, Wis. "]
A pharmacist was arrested on charges that he intentionally sabotaged more than 500 doses of the Covid-19 vaccine at the Aurora Medical Center in Grafton, Wis. Credit...Mark Hoffman/Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, via Associated Press

By [Shaila Dewan]('https://www.nytimes.com/by/shaila-dewan') and Kay Nolan

A pharmacist who was arrested on charges that he intentionally sabotaged more than 500 doses of the Covid-19 vaccine at a Wisconsin hospital was “an admitted conspiracy theorist” who believed the vaccine could harm people and “change their DNA,” according to the police in Grafton, Wis., where the man was employed.

The police said Steven Brandenburg, 46, who worked the night shift at the Aurora Medical Center in Grafton, Wis., had twice removed a box of vials of the Moderna vaccine from the refrigerator for periods of 12 hours, rendering them “useless.”

“Brandenburg admitted to doing this intentionally, knowing that it would diminish the effects of the vaccine,” the police said.

Hey maybe some lady Gwen will apply.

What's the significance of the name Gwen???

Ya think?? I wish this one wasn't true. Scary that he is a licensed pharmacist, because he obviously flunked the protein synthesis section of biochemistry...

[HEADING=2]Pharmacist Accused of Tampering With Vaccine Was Conspiracy Theorist, Police Say[/HEADING]
The police say a Wisconsin pharmacist believed the Moderna vaccine would harm people and tried to sabotage the effort to vaccinate frontline workers.

[IMG alt="A pharmacist was arrested on charges that he intentionally sabotaged more than 500 doses of the Covid-19 vaccine at the Aurora Medical Center in Grafton, Wis. "]
A pharmacist was arrested on charges that he intentionally sabotaged more than 500 doses of the Covid-19 vaccine at the Aurora Medical Center in Grafton, Wis. Credit...Mark Hoffman/Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, via Associated Press

By [Shaila Dewan]('https://www.nytimes.com/by/shaila-dewan') and Kay Nolan

A pharmacist who was arrested on charges that he intentionally sabotaged more than 500 doses of the Covid-19 vaccine at a Wisconsin hospital was “an admitted conspiracy theorist” who believed the vaccine could harm people and “change their DNA,” according to the police in Grafton, Wis., where the man was employed.

The police said Steven Brandenburg, 46, who worked the night shift at the Aurora Medical Center in Grafton, Wis., had twice removed a box of vials of the Moderna vaccine from the refrigerator for periods of 12 hours, rendering them “useless.”

“Brandenburg admitted to doing this intentionally, knowing that it would diminish the effects of the vaccine,” the police said.

George Carlin said it best:

“Some people are stupid, some people are full of shit, and some people are f’in nuts.”

This gent may be all 3.

The new Tony Fauci family crest...

The new Tony Fauci family crest...

Hey Dom,

Any insight into this South Africa strain? Tried looking for the scientific covid thread on here but I’m not seeing it.

-Benny

Hey Dom-
Another question...
If somebody is vaccinated and the vaccine works the odds of them getting infected and sick is greatly reduced i would think. Can they still be a carrier and pass it on to somebody that isn't vaccinated?
I specifically ask this because a parent of one of my sons friends is a nurse and got vaccinated and we will be in somewhat contact/proximity with her in the near future.

Hey Dom,

Any insight into this South Africa strain? Tried looking for the scientific covid thread on here but I’m not seeing it.

-Benny

Haven't seen anything on it besides the news saying "It's out there..." Good news is that the functionality of the spike protein is critical to the virus' existence, so big mutations there would stop the virus from invading cells making said mutation the end of the line.

AND, more importantly, the current vaccines are designed to develop antibodies to functional spike proteins, so they're covering all the current mutations.

Hey Dom-
Another question...
If somebody is vaccinated and the vaccine works the odds of them getting infected and sick is greatly reduced i would think. Can they still be a carrier and pass it on to somebody that isn't vaccinated?
I specifically ask this because a parent of one of my sons friends is a nurse and got vaccinated and we will be in somewhat contact/proximity with her in the near future.

Great questions, and "it's complicated"...

Here's the one FACT about the vaccines: They reduce the chances of getting seriously ill with a COVID-19 infection. In the case of serious infections that would require a trip to the ICU, the chances are damn close to 0 to that happening to a vaccinated person, which is terrific news!!!

However, 1 week after your second vaccination is not your personal "MLK Day - Free at last, free at last, Thank God Almighty, I'm free at last!!" You'll still want to be wearing a mask, social distance, etc. A successful vaccination series just means that it's highly unlikely COVID-19 will be cause of death on your death certificate.

OK, WTF does that mean?
[LIST]
[*]For the vaccine to "work" in someone, a vaccinated person has to be invaded by COVID-19, which strictly speaking, means they are "infected". Don't forget that the vaccines are only 95% effective, so ~5% of vaccinated people still get COVID-19, albeit at a very reduced intensity.

[*]So can a vaccinated person transmit to other people, vaccinated or not? The simple answer is HELL YES!! Even before vaccines there has been COVID-19 transmission by ASYMPTOMATIC patients, so if a vaccinated person's now vaccine-stimulated immune system is successfully fighting off a low-grade, even asymptomatic infection, they still can very well be infectious to others who may or may not be vaccinated.
[/LIST]
If you get the two bullet points above, you'll see why ALL FOLKS, vaccinated or not, will need to continue to follow all the basics for the time it takes for the impact of herd immunity puts the kibosh on the virus:
[LIST]
[*]Wearing a mask
[*]Scrupulous hygiene
[*]Social Distancing
[*]Avoiding large gatherings
[/LIST]
I know, I rambled CC, but yes, you'll need to wear your mask and stay distanced when you see your friend. I would assume that you'll see her wearing a mask because she understands all this too. At this point being vaccinated is a "stay of COVID-19 execution" for those vaccinated, nothing more. As more get vaccinated, more folks won't be seriously infected and the virus will run out of hosts, this is what "Herd Immunity" is all about. Once that happens, the return to normal will commence.

And don't shoot the messenger, but all the above, along with the slow rollout of vaccinations, and folks who are reluctant to get vaccinated, will just continue to delay a return to "normal" life well possibly into late 2021, if not 2022...

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Grafton police said Brandenburg had "intentionally" removed the vials from refrigerated storage at Advocate Aurora Health Hospital on Dec. 24 and Dec. 25, leaving them out to spoil overnight.

Ya think?? I wish this one wasn't true. Scary that he is a licensed pharmacist, because he obviously flunked the protein synthesis section of biochemistry...

[HEADING=2]Pharmacist Accused of Tampering With Vaccine Was Conspiracy Theorist, Police Say[/HEADING]
The police say a Wisconsin pharmacist believed the Moderna vaccine would harm people and tried to sabotage the effort to vaccinate frontline workers.

[IMG alt="A pharmacist was arrested on charges that he intentionally sabotaged more than 500 doses of the Covid-19 vaccine at the Aurora Medical Center in Grafton, Wis. "]
A pharmacist was arrested on charges that he intentionally sabotaged more than 500 doses of the Covid-19 vaccine at the Aurora Medical Center in Grafton, Wis. Credit...Mark Hoffman/Milwaukee Journal-Sentinel, via Associated Press

By [Shaila Dewan]('https://www.nytimes.com/by/shaila-dewan') and Kay Nolan

A pharmacist who was arrested on charges that he intentionally sabotaged more than 500 doses of the Covid-19 vaccine at a Wisconsin hospital was “an admitted conspiracy theorist” who believed the vaccine could harm people and “change their DNA,” according to the police in Grafton, Wis., where the man was employed.

The police said Steven Brandenburg, 46, who worked the night shift at the Aurora Medical Center in Grafton, Wis., had twice removed a box of vials of the Moderna vaccine from the refrigerator for periods of 12 hours, rendering them “useless.”

“Brandenburg admitted to doing this intentionally, knowing that it would diminish the effects of the vaccine,” the police said.

Ya cant fix stupid

And some vultures continue to circle...

[HEADING=2]One Hospital System Sued 2,500 Patients After Pandemic Hit[/HEADING]
The largest health system in New York, led by a close ally of the governor, continues to sue over medical debt during the Covid-19 crisis, even after other big hospitals suspended lawsuits.

[IMG alt="Medical debt lawsuits have become increasingly common in recent years. "]
Medical debt lawsuits have become increasingly common in recent years. Credit...Victor J. Blue for The New York Times

When the coronavirus began spreading through New York, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo ordered state-run hospitals to [stop suing patients over unpaid medical bills]('https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-and-attorney-general-james-temporarily-suspend-state-debt-collection-response'), and almost all of the major private hospitals in the state voluntarily followed suit by suspending their claims.

But one chain of hospitals has plowed ahead with thousands of lawsuits: Northwell Health, which is the state’s largest health system and is run by one of Mr. Cuomo’s closest allies.

The nonprofit Northwell sued more than 2,500 patients last year, records show, a flood of litigation even as the pandemic has led to widespread job losses and economic uncertainty.

The Northwell lawsuits each sought an average of $1,700 in unpaid bills, plus large interest payments. They hit teachers, construction workers, grocery store employees and others, including some who had lost work in the pandemic or gotten sick themselves.

And some vultures continue to circle...

[HEADING=2]One Hospital System Sued 2,500 Patients After Pandemic Hit[/HEADING]
The largest health system in New York, led by a close ally of the governor, continues to sue over medical debt during the Covid-19 crisis, even after other big hospitals suspended lawsuits.

[IMG alt="Medical debt lawsuits have become increasingly common in recent years. "]
Medical debt lawsuits have become increasingly common in recent years. Credit...Victor J. Blue for The New York Times

When the coronavirus began spreading through New York, Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo ordered state-run hospitals to [stop suing patients over unpaid medical bills]('https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/governor-cuomo-and-attorney-general-james-temporarily-suspend-state-debt-collection-response'), and almost all of the major private hospitals in the state voluntarily followed suit by suspending their claims.

But one chain of hospitals has plowed ahead with thousands of lawsuits: Northwell Health, which is the state’s largest health system and is run by one of Mr. Cuomo’s closest allies.

The nonprofit Northwell sued more than 2,500 patients last year, records show, a flood of litigation even as the pandemic has led to widespread job losses and economic uncertainty.

The Northwell lawsuits each sought an average of $1,700 in unpaid bills, plus large interest payments. They hit teachers, construction workers, grocery store employees and others, including some who had lost work in the pandemic or gotten sick themselves.

Well, its New York. 'Nuff said.

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*The situation in Los Angeles County hospitals is so critical that ambulance crews have been advised to cut back on their use of oxygen and to not bring to hospitals patients who have virtually no chance of survival. Officials say they need to focus on patients with a greater chance of surviving.

The measures were taken as circumstances are expected to become even worse in coming weeks, when patients sickened over the Christmas holiday will need treatment, leaving [officials desperate]('https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-31/l-a-county-hospital-hit-breaking-point-no-one-would-believe-this-is-in-the-united-states') for ways to increase capacity and triage care to focus on the sickest patients.

:cry: *

What’s the pay

What's the significance of the name Gwen???

Gwen Moore Representative from Milwaukee. She tested positive six/seven days ago, went public with it then jumped on a plane for DC to vote yesterday for speaker of the house. Shhhh!!!

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*The situation in Los Angeles County hospitals is so critical that ambulance crews have been advised to cut back on their use of oxygen and to not bring to hospitals patients who have virtually no chance of survival. Officials say they need to focus on patients with a greater chance of surviving.

The measures were taken as circumstances are expected to become even worse in coming weeks, when patients sickened over the Christmas holiday will need treatment, leaving [officials desperate]('https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-31/l-a-county-hospital-hit-breaking-point-no-one-would-believe-this-is-in-the-united-states') for ways to increase capacity and triage care to focus on the sickest patients.

:cry:*

well that misfired.......

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*The situation in Los Angeles County hospitals is so critical that ambulance crews have been advised to cut back on their use of oxygen and to not bring to hospitals patients who have virtually no chance of survival. Officials say they need to focus on patients with a greater chance of surviving.

The measures were taken as circumstances are expected to become even worse in coming weeks, when patients sickened over the Christmas holiday will need treatment, leaving [officials desperate]('https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-12-31/l-a-county-hospital-hit-breaking-point-no-one-would-believe-this-is-in-the-united-states') for ways to increase capacity and triage care to focus on the sickest patients.*

Gwen Moore Representative from Milwaukee. She tested positive six/seven days ago, went public with it then jumped on a plane for DC to vote yesterday for speaker of the house. Shhhh!!!

Gotcha!
My bad
I thought you were being derogatory towards women with names like Gwen
I didn't realize you were praising someone for acting in a matter Tony would be proud of???