The COVID-19 Science and Medicine Question Thread

OK children, cut the BS, whining, temper tantrums and other assorted stuff. This is a SCIENCE thread. If you don't believe in it, then don't post on this thread. There's another Coronavirus thread that you can freely vent your bile.

Got a question? Ask it and I will answer it honestly with the best science I can find at the current moment. Have some data that seems to contradict conventional wisdom, post them! I'll gladly discuss and research it; that's what this thread is for. I'm learning volumes here and I love to learn.

Got an opinion? Take it to the other thread.

Want to discuss economic impact of actions being done as a result of this pandemic? Take it to the other thread, my PhD. is in Physiology and Biophysics, not economics. That being said, it doesn't take a PhD in Economics to realize the huge ramifications and impact of these actions to protect human life. Living where I do, with a huge small business economy based in hospitality, I'm wondering about how many of my favorite small shops and restaurants will be around by the end of this. I too look at the lines at the food banks with great sorrow; guess where my stimulus check went? I'm blessed in that I am able to give it to others who need it more than I do.

Got a conspiracy theory? Go to the other thread UNLESS you actually have verifiable data. For example I just learned that the PLANDEMIC Video is based on a 1998 paper in Science that was retracted 2 years later because no one could reproduce it. Shades of the anti-vaxxers quoting studies that the original author later said was invalid.

Don't like using masks and social distancing? Take it to the other thread. There my be others there who may care. FACT: These things do help prevent disease transmission, like them or not.

Please keep in mind that science is in constant flux so things change. What's "correct" today, may be BS tomorrow, and that's what makes science interesting.

Once again Roccus, THANK YOU for the informative posts and keeping us up to date on the ever changing evolution of this thing??

Isn’t there a way to lock certain people out that refuse to cooperate?

OK children, cut the BS, whining, temper tantrums and other assorted stuff. This is a SCIENCE thread. If you don't believe in it, then don't post on this thread. There's another Coronavirus thread that you can freely vent your bile.

Got a question? Ask it and I will answer it honestly with the best science I can find at the current moment. Have some data that seems to contradict conventional wisdom, post them! I'll gladly discuss and research it; that's what this thread is for. I'm learning volumes here and I love to learn.

Got an opinion? Take it to the other thread.

Want to discuss economic impact of actions being done as a result of this pandemic? Take it to the other thread, my PhD. is in Physiology and Biophysics, not economics. That being said, it doesn't take a PhD in Economics to realize the huge ramifications and impact of these actions to protect human life. Living where I do, with a huge small business economy based in hospitality, I'm wondering about how many of my favorite small shops and restaurants will be around by the end of this. I too look at the lines at the food banks with great sorrow; guess where my stimulus check went? I'm blessed in that I am able to give it to others who need it more than I do.

Got a conspiracy theory? Go to the other thread UNLESS you actually have verifiable data. For example I just learned that the PLANDEMIC Video is based on a 1998 paper in Science that was retracted 2 years later because no one could reproduce it. Shades of the anti-vaxxers quoting studies that the original author later said was invalid.

Don't like using masks and social distancing? Take it to the other thread. There my be others there who may care. FACT: These things do help prevent disease transmission, like them or not.

Please keep in mind that science is in constant flux so things change. What's "correct" today, may be BS tomorrow, and that's what makes science interesting.

that whole rant and you pissed it away with one line
Science is in flux what’s true today may not be true tomoorw

So In laymen’s terms
Pay no attention the data I’m giving you as truth today for it may simply be garbage tomorrow

kinda what I said

Ppls lives are being ruined on garbage science that changes by the second and that’s a fact

and I won’t limit it to any one forum or any one thread

don’t like it
Piss off

After a walk to, around and back from our local park, and I hope I am wrong, but after seeing all the house parties going on I can only imagine that by May 24th there we be a bit of an increase in the numbers.

I agree.
Roccus-
Is there any specific formula of how long it will take for the #'s to rebound back up again?
Is it even possible to calculate.
It does seem logical that if it hasn't disappeared and people are mingling again the #'s will go back up?

Moved off topic posts to the other thread incase anyone is wonder where their posts went

I agree.
Roccus-
Is there any specific formula of how long it will take for the #'s to rebound back up again?
Is it even possible to calculate.
It does seem logical that if it hasn't disappeared and people are mingling again the #'s will go back up?

If there's a rebound, we should start seeing the infection numbers start to jump up in 2-3 weeks. Any increase needs to be examined with a few grains of salt. Since states are ramping up testing, we may see a jump regardless of a rebound, so the data need to be normalized by something like infections per 100 tested so we know we're seeing a true rebound, not just an artifact of increased testing...

Hadn't updated this in a week. Maine's "Plateau" turned out to be a shelf on a peak. What's driving the increase? Two things, breakouts in living and work facilities, and because of cases popping up, increased testing in those types of facilities.

Although the impact is yet to be seen, we just relaxed some restrictions in the counties with very low infection numbers. It will be interesting to see if we start seeing jumps in the infection rates as a result of loosening things up.

*During an experiment conducted by the Japanese audiovisual group NHK, in collaboration with experts, a fluorescent paint was applied to the hands of a man dining with a group of 10 people to show the spread of the coronavirus. In 30 minutes, the painting was transferred to each individual and was on the face of 3 people.

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Just put that on my FB page.

Wasn’t it determined months ago
That it was highly transmissible
Captains obvious

Ok here’s another one on testing

positive test for the virus after moderately sever symptoms
2 week illness 5 days illness free then another test
Still positive
7 days later negative
14 days later took Two different anti body test At the hospital
Both negative for anti bodies

So much for testing

This is the entire Nova episode that aired last night. I've started it at the point where they discuss Wuhan reopening and what everyone has to do to allow contact tracing. The competing Apple and Google cellphone technologies were also interesting.

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Ok here’s another one on testing

positive test for the virus after moderately sever symptoms
2 week illness 5 days illness free then another test
Still positive
7 days later negative
14 days later took Two different anti body test At the hospital
Both negative for anti bodies

So much for testing

this wasn’t me but a very close friend and I’ve seen all the paper work
so it’s a true account

Had to go in for a check up today
It’s been a minute

while I was there I asked the Dr. about his anti body test
( the one my wife took)
Hers went to quest just like mine

he had to draw blood anyway so I said
Go ahead and draw another one for anti bodies too
Long story short
North well also is testing so I said I got lots draw one for them too

the north well test isn’t just a positive or negative
But is done on a number rating system
the exact difference is above my paygrade

but goes like this
If a positive is >1 and you get .99 on the quest test
Your negative
On the north well test you’d get .99

supposedly showing signs of either increasing or diminishing antibodies

but goes like this
If a positive is >1 and you get .99 on the quest test
Your negative
On the north well test you’d get .99

supposedly showing signs of either increasing or diminishing antibodies

You want a scientific explanation or do you want another soap box to get atop and rant? If it's the latter, I'll remain silent.

No I’m always interested in your scientific views

all I know is it’s a blood draw test
That test for the same long term anti body i gg?
As quest
And as opposed to positive and negative it gives a number rating
And it’s relatively new

His family of 4 also has 3 positives and one negative
Which he thinks is very strange
Him
Wife and one daughter yes
One daughter no
Daughters in constant contact

[SIZE=7]Northwell expands testing to aid COVID-19 recovery[/SIZE]

StArted a program wednesday

so I’m sure you’ll find something

So you want an explanation of how qualitative antibody tests are calibrated or are you looking for another thing to rant about? Seems it's the latter by virtue of the tone of your posts.

Nope your reading something into it that’s not there
i only posted it here because I thought the existence of yet another test ( that I was told was brand new)
Would be right up your alley

the difference between the test would be great
More important the difference between
The straight positive/ vs the calibrated test

the accuracy of the north well test vs the quest test
Would be great information