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george
georgeADMINnoreaster.com2022#821

my daughter who works with autistic adults in NY was confirmed positive yesterday - vaccinated twice - 1 booster & was due for her second booster next week - felt lousy yesterday - today says it feels like nothing but a head cold - she's 32 & otherwise healthy - the vaccines work - the fact that her bridal shower which was planned for today had to be rescheduled upset her more - doctor says she should be able to return to work in 5 days

Sorry about the shower and I'm happy to see she's doing well. I have a greeting the shower, whenever it is, will be great!

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Avenger
Avengernoreaster.com2022#822

Thanks all. I keep you updated.

Please do. I'll keep your daughter on my prayer list. Best of luck to both of you and wader's daughter as well.

Chrome warns this may be a phishing site. Well, Duh,... Stupid jerks can't even spell fishing right.
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longcast
longcastFREE2022#823

Thanks all. I keep you updated.

In our thoughts and prayers!!!!!

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george
georgeADMINnoreaster.com2022#824

My daughter is doing much better. Thanks for all of the well wishes. She is still sick but the fever and caughing are much better. Here's a 34 year old, all of the shots and boosters, and that thing beat her up.

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OVERBORED

My daughter is doing much better. Thanks for all of the well wishes. She is still sick but the fever and caughing are much better. Here's a 34 year old, all of the shots and boosters, and that thing beat her up.

Glad she's better ?

"Chance only favors the prepared mind" - Pasteur
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wader
waderFREE2022#826

My daughter is doing much better. Thanks for all of the well wishes. She is still sick but the fever and caughing are much better. Here's a 34 year old, all of the shots and boosters, and that thing beat her up.

same on this end - my daughter didn't get as ill as it sounds like yours did George - but by yesterday it was down to what felt like an annoying head cold - haven't heard from her today but from the sounds of it yesterday it's pretty well gone - thank God for the vaccines
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pequa1
pequa1MODnoreaster.com2022#827

My daughter is doing much better. Thanks for all of the well wishes. She is still sick but the fever and caughing are much better. Here's a 34 year old, all of the shots and boosters, and that thing beat her up.

Great news. Will never know what impact had she not been completely vaccinated

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wader
waderFREE2022#828

same on this end - my daughter didn't get as ill as it sounds like yours did George - but by yesterday it was down to what felt like an annoying head cold - haven't heard from her today but from the sounds of it yesterday it's pretty well gone - thank God for the vaccines
(y)

she's feeling 100% today - returning to work tomorrow
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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2022#829

Evolution is a bi-atch!!! Welcome to "Omidelta", my nomenclature...

[HEADING=2]Coronavirus mutant now dominant in U.S. contains ghost of pandemic past[/HEADING]
[pressherald.com/2022/05/26/coronavirus-mutant-now-dominant-in-u-s-contains-ghost-of-pandemic-past/]('https://www.pressherald.com/2022/05/26/coronavirus-mutant-now-dominant-in-u-s-contains-ghost-of-pandemic-past/')

By LAURA UNGAR May 26, 2022

The coronavirus mutant that is now dominant in the United States is a member of the omicron family but scientists say it spreads faster than its omicron predecessors, is adept at escaping immunity and might possibly cause more serious disease.

Why? Because it combines properties of both omicron and delta, the nation’s dominant variant in the middle of last year.

A genetic trait that harkens back to the pandemic’s past, known as a “delta mutation,” appears to allow the virus “to escape pre-existing immunity from vaccination and prior infection, especially if you were infected in the omicron wave,” said Dr. Wesley Long, a pathologist at Houston Methodist in Texas. That’s because the original omicron strain that swept the world didn’t have the mutation.

The omicron “subvariant” gaining ground in the U.S. — known as BA.2.12.1 and responsible for 58 percent of U.S. COVID-19 cases last week — isn’t the only one affected by the delta mutation. The genetic change is also present in the omicron relatives that together dominate in South Africa, known as BA.4 and BA.5. Those have exactly the same mutation as delta, while BA.2.12.1 has one that’s nearly identical.

This genetic change is bad news for people who caught the original omicron and thought that made them unlikely to get COVID-19 again soon. Although most people don’t know for sure which variant caused their illness, the original omicron caused a giant wave of cases late last year and early this year.
Long said lab data suggests a prior infection with the original omicron is not very protective against reinfection with the new mutants, though the true risk of being reinfected no matter the variant is unique to every person and situation.

In a twist, however, those sickened by delta previously may have some extra armor to ward off the new mutants. A study released before it was reviewed by other scientists, by researchers at Ohio State University, found that COVID patients in intensive care with delta infections induced antibodies that were better at neutralizing the new mutants than patients who caught the original omicron.

“The omicron infection antibody does not appear to protect well against the subvariants compared to delta,” said Dr. Shan-Lu Liu, a study author who co-directs the viruses and emerging pathogens program at Ohio State.

But Liu said the level of protection a delta infection provides depends partly on how long ago someone was ill. That’s because immunity wanes over time.

People who got sick with delta shouldn’t think of themselves as invulnerable to the new subvariants, especially if they’re unvaccinated, Long said. “I wouldn’t say anyone is safe.”

One bright spot? Booster shots can provide strong protection against the new mutants, Liu said. In general, vaccines and prior infection can protect people from the worst outcomes of COVID-19. At this point, scientists say, it’s too early to know if the new mutant gaining ground in the U.S. will cause a significant uptick in new cases, hospitalizations and deaths.

Scientists are still trying to figure out how virulent these new mutants are. Long said he hasn’t seen anything that answers that question for him, but Liu said emerging data points toward more serious illness. Liu said the subvariants have properties suggesting they spread more efficiently cell-to-cell.
The virus “just hides in the cell and spreads through cell-to-cell contact,” Liu said. “That’s more scary because the virus does not come out for the antibody to work.”

Dr. Eric Topol, head of Scripps Research Translational Institute, said the new mutants certainly don’t appear less virulent than previous versions of omicron, and whether they are more virulent or not “will become clear in the months ahead.”

In the meantime, scientists expect the latest powerhouse mutants to spread quickly, since they are more transmissible than their predecessors.

Though home testing makes it tough to track all U.S. COVID cases, data from Johns Hopkins University shows that cases are averaging nearly 107,000 a day, up from about 87,000 two weeks ago. And new hospital admissions of patients with COVID-19 have been trending upwards since around mid-April, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

“I’m hopeful that we don’t see a similar increase in hospitalizations that we’ve had in prior waves,” Long said. “But with COVID, any time you have lots of people being infected, it’s just a numbers game. Some of those people are going to be severe. Some of those people are going to need hospitalization. Some of them, unfortunately, are going to pass away.”

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george
georgeADMINnoreaster.com2022#830

[USER=51]@Roccus7[/USER] Thats scary.

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Matts
MattsFREE2022#831

So letting the virus reproduce, relatively unchecked around the world was a bad thing. How utterly predictable!

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Chevy1
Chevy1FREE2022#832

Mr. Roccus,
My son just got back from the Dr. This is his prescription, any information about it?

M.H.
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cany
canyCOMMUNITYnoreaster.com2022#833

Mr. Roccus,
My son just got back from the Dr. This is his prescription, any information about it?

Looks blank :p:eek:

General cany, Watching always Watching
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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2022#834

Mr. Roccus,
My son just got back from the Dr. This is his prescription, any information about it?

Missing some info there Chevy

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M.H.
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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2022#836

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That's the "good stuff"...

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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2022#837

Very interesting stuff, but highlights about the potential dangers of playing with fire. On the other hand, Arson Investigators get much of their knowledge by playing with fire...

[HEADING=2]Bat Virus Studies Raise Questions About Laboratory Tinkering[/HEADING]
Working in a laboratory in Paris, scientists gave a close relative of the Covid virus the chance to evolve to be more like its cousin.

In mid-2020, a team of scientists [catching bats in Laotian caves]('https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/14/science/bat-coronaviruses-lab-leak.html') discovered coronaviruses that were strikingly similar to the one that had begun wreaking havoc around the world.

In the months since, some of those researchers have been studying one of these mysterious bat viruses in a high-security laboratory in Paris, hoping to discover clues about how its cousin, SARS-CoV-2, went on to become a global threat that has killed an [estimated 15 million people]('https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/05/health/covid-global-deaths.html').

Their work has been scientifically fruitful. Last year, the scientists discovered that [the bat virus was capable of latching on]('https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/14/science/bat-coronaviruses-lab-leak.html') to human cells, at least in Petri dishes. Last month, the team [reported]('https://doi.org/10.21203/rs.3.rs-1803095/v1') more reassuring news: that the virus is not particularly harmful to lab animals. The finding suggests that SARS-CoV-2 evolved its abilities to spread quickly and cause deadly disease only after the two lineages branched apart on the viral evolutionary tree.

If the Laotian virus were to ever jump from a bat to a person, the new research suggests, it might cause a mild stomach bug rather than a life-threatening pneumonia. Nevertheless, lab experiments like these rekindle a longstanding debate among scientists about the wisdom of tinkering with viruses that are so closely related to a known pathogen.

Proponents argue that this kind of data is crucial for understanding — and preventing — pandemics. For example, the new studies have tested whether bat viruses could evolve a “furin cleavage site,” a feature of SARS-CoV-2 that allows it to efficiently infect human cells.

“Our motivation was to try to give some insight regarding the origin of Covid,” said Marc Eloit, a virologist at the Pasteur Institute in Paris who is leading the effort.

But critics say that scientists should not run experiments that might make viruses better able to spread among people, given the small but real chance that these altered pathogens might infect lab workers and escape into the outside world.

“For me, the benefits of this work are outweighed by the risks,” said Dr. David Relman, a microbiologist at Stanford University.

[HEADING=1]The furin site[/HEADING]
The bat virus at the center of Dr. Eloit’s experiments came to light on an expedition to limestone caves in northern Laos in the summer of 2020. A team of Laotian and French researchers caught bats flying out of the caves and took samples of their saliva, blood, urine and feces.

The scientists found genetic material from five coronaviruses closely related to SARS-CoV-2. In the feces from a Marshall’s horseshoe bat, they found whole viruses of a strain they named BANAL-236 (a code indicating the virus came from a bat anal swab).

Once back in their lab, the scientists found that BANAL-236 can infect human cells by binding tightly to the same protein that SARS-CoV-2 uses to gain entry. In February, the researchers published these [findings]('https://doi.org/10.1038/s41586-022-04532-4') in the journal Nature.

Last month, they released a [second wave of results]('https://www.researchsquare.com/article/rs-1803095/v1'), now under review by a scientific journal, in which they investigated the virus’s behavior in laboratory mice and monkeys.

In one experiment, the scientists injected the virus into genetically engineered mice commonly used to study Covid. SARS-CoV-2 replicates quickly in their lungs, just as it does in people, causing them to lose weight and die.

BANAL-236, by contrast, struggled to take hold in the animals’ lungs, producing only about 1 percent of the viruses created in a SARS-CoV-2 infection.

The researchers found that the virus was even milder when they sprayed it into the noses of two monkeys. BANAL-236 replicated mainly in their guts, rather than their lungs.

Dr. Eloit suspects BANAL-236 is milder because it lacks a key feature important to the success of SARS-CoV-2.

After a new SARS-CoV-2 virus is created in a cell, its spike protein changes shape, with an effect like spring-loading a crossbow. When the virus then binds to a new cell, the primed spike protein shoots out molecular bolts that draw it into its new host.

This shape-shifting region of the spike — known as the furin cleavage site — is crucial to the success of SARS-CoV-2. When scientists have [engineered]('https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03237-4') viruses lacking this site, the mutants struggle to replicate in the lungs of lab animals or spread to new hosts.

[HEADING=1]Serial passage[/HEADING]
Gaining a furin cleavage site may have been a crucial step in the evolution of SARS-CoV-2. To explore that possibility, Dr. Eloit and his colleagues ran lab experiments to give BANAL-236 a chance to evolve new traits, such as a furin cleavage site.

The team based its studies on [experiments]('https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7544131/') in which other scientists had injected bird flu viruses into chicken eggs and waited for them to replicate. They then transferred the new viruses into new eggs, and again allowed them to replicate. With every transfer, the virus had a chance to evolve. After 11 transfers, the scientists found that the flu viruses had evolved cleavage sites, making them deadlier to chickens.

In a similar fashion, the Pasteur researchers removed lung tissue from mice infected with BANAL-236 and used the tissue to infect healthy animals. They then repeated the cycle, transferring viruses from mouse to mouse.

In another experiment, they infected a dish of human intestinal cells with BANAL-236, then used the new viruses produced by the cells to infect new dishes.

But for both experiments, Dr. Eloit and his colleagues decided against going as far as 11 transfers, stopping at six.

“From a purely scientific point of view, we wanted to do more than six passages,” Dr. Eloit said. “But we did not want to open the risk to adapting a bat virus to humans.”

BANAL-236 did not gain a furin cleavage site in either experiment. The virus did acquire other mutations, but they did not make it any better at infecting mouse lungs.

Scientists have been running such evolutionary experiments — known as “serial passage” — for more than a century. In fact, [vaccines]('https://evolution-outreach.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1007/s12052-011-0365-y') for a number of viruses such as yellow fever were created by growing them in the lab: The viruses evolved in Petri dishes into milder forms that were safe to inject into people.
In 2011, however, a [controversy]('https://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/27/science/debate-persists-on-deadly-flu-made-airborne.html') broke out about the safety of serial passage experiments that might produce new human pathogens. At the time, researchers were studying how influenza viruses that cause intestinal infections in birds can evolve into airborne forms that can infect people.

Two teams of researchers sprayed bird flu viruses into the noses of ferrets, waited for the viruses to replicate and then transferred the new viruses to new ferrets. Soon [the viruses evolved]('https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/26/science/the-evolution-of-bird-flu-and-the-race-to-keep-up.html?searchResultPosition=14') to become better at replicating in the ferrets.

Some critics said the research was so reckless that it shouldn’t be published, for fear that other researchers would copy the work and accidentally release a new pandemic strain of flu. The United States government [halted]('https://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/21/health/fearing-terrorism-us-asks-journals-to-censor-articles-on-virus.html?_r=2') experiments like these in order to develop a new policy for judging their safety.

Some of the studies started up again in recent years. But Dr. Relman of Stanford and others have [complained]('https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/20/science/covid-lab-leak-wuhan.html') that the current regulations are not transparent enough.

Dr. Eloit said a Pasteur Institute committee that reviews potentially risky biological research authorized his team’s proposal for studying the new bat viruses. The scientists then carried out their experiments at the same level of security as their other work with the coronaviruses, known as Biosafety Level 3, or [BSL-3]('https://www.phe.gov/s3/BioriskManagement/biocontainment/Pages/BSL-Requirements.aspx').

Dr. Tom Inglesby, the director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security at the Bloomberg School of Public Health, said it was good that the scientists put thought into these potential risks. But he also said he wanted to see a clear rationale for deciding that six passages were safe.

“It’s not possible to know ahead of time if these experiments would lead to more transmissible or more virulent viruses,” he said. “There’s no hard and fast rule that six is safe and more is not.”

But Thomas Peacock, a virologist at Imperial College London, said he thought that Dr. Eloit and his colleagues had been sufficiently prudent. In earlier studies, he pointed out, the researchers had found that antibodies produced by people during Covid infections were very potent against BANAL-236. That most likely meant that if the virus were to leak out of a lab, it wouldn’t be able to spread very far.

“This virus would probably hit a brick wall in the general population,” Dr. Peacock said. “I don’t really have much issue with the experiments.”

[HEADING=1]Origins of Covid[/HEADING]
Other researchers agreed with Dr. Eloit that the research could shed light on how and when SARS-CoV-2 spilled over into people.

For Dr. Eloit, his team’s inability to produce a furin cleavage site on BANAL-236 in mice or human intestinal cells suggests that the SARS-CoV-2 lineage gained the furin site in bats before spilling over into people. He said it would not have been easy for the virus to gain a furin site after jumping into another species of animal — sometimes called “intermediate hosts” — such as those sold at a [market]('https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/02/26/science/covid-virus-wuhan-origins.html') in Wuhan, China. “I do not see any strong arguments in favor of an intermediate host,” Dr. Eloit said.

But scientists who favor the market scenario see the new results in a different light. If the researchers couldn’t spur BANAL-236 to evolve the furin site during serial passage experiments, they reasoned, then it’s unlikely that scientists in a Wuhan lab could have done so with SARS-CoV-2, as some proponents of the “lab leak” [theory]('https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7435492/') have suggested.

“This is another nail in the coffin of the lab leak theory that by now should be firmly sealed in the crypt,” said Edward Holmes, a virologist at the University of Sydney.

Dr. Peacock was reluctant to draw strong conclusions from such small-scale experiments. “I think it’s quite a difficult thing to ask to get a furin site after a few passages,” he said.

Dr. Eloit and his colleagues are now exploring the possibility that ancestors of SARS-CoV-2 gained a furin cleavage site while still in wild bats. The virus might have then spread to an intermediate host or directly to people exposed to bats — like those who collect bat guano, hunt bats or eat them.

To test that idea, the scientists are working to obtain more samples from bats in Laos and neighboring countries. Dr. Eloit can’t say whether their hypothesis is more likely than the others, but it is at least one they can investigate.

“Our work as scientists,” he said, “is to explore the working hypotheses that we can explore.”

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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2022#838

If you care to read a well-written piece about the new Omicron Variants, read away...

[HEADING=2]Setting the Record Straight on Variants and Reinfections[/HEADING]

By Jeremy Kamil
Dr. Kamil is a virologist and associate professor of microbiology and immunology at Louisiana State University Health Shreveport.

The blitz of Omicron variants has felt like one long wave. And many questions have arisen amid the tumult. Are we seeing the emergence of entirely new coronavirus variants that are impervious to immunity from vaccines and previous infections? If we keep getting reinfected, is it inevitable that most of us will end up [developing]('https://thetyee.ca/Analysis/2022/07/04/Get-Ready-Forever-Plague/') long Covid?

In short, the answer is no.

As a virologist, it’s important to me that people understand Covid-19 remains a [great concern]('https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/20/opinion/covid-19-deaths-vaccines-endemic.html'). But this does not excuse or license a misdiagnosis of the current situation.

Let’s start with what is true. BA.5, one of the most recent Omicron variants to emerge, is everywhere. It unquestionably has an advantage in terms of transmissibility over previous Omicron lineages, most likely because it’s better at evading our existing repertoire of antibodies.

BA.5 and its close cousin BA.4 have a key mutation that enables them to sneak past an important class of so-called broadly neutralizing antibodies. These particular antibodies did a great job of preventing infections from a wide swath of earlier variants.

That’s changed in some ways.

In recent weeks I’ve watched many vaccinated friends and family members get infected with the coronavirus for the first time. The most concerning of these are cases like a colleague of mine who was infected in May and again in June, both times becoming ill.

Thankfully, reinfection a few weeks after recovery is not the norm. Scientists have shown that people who previously contracted Covid-19 are less likely to get infected with the variant du jour than people who had never seen the virus, and this trend holds true for [Omicron]('https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2203965'). Early [research]('https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.07.11.22277448v1') from Qatar that has not yet been peer-reviewed showed that people who had a BA.1 infection in, say, January were significantly less likely to experience a BA.4 or BA.5 breakthrough infection months later. While more research on this is welcome, these findings are consistent with how immunity, played out at the population level, helps explain the rise, fall and magnitude of epidemic waves.

Antibodies remain a powerful defense against this coronavirus. They do many things to protect us, while also flagging the virus for destruction by other elements of the immune system. Even though some studies have found that Omicron variants may induce weaker antibody responses than earlier variants, this is most likely because Omicron causes less severe disease, thanks to immunity from vaccines and prior infections.

Our immune system works much like a wise yet frugal investor, calibrating responses according to the magnitude and extent of the various danger signals sensed during infection. Generally speaking, the greater the symptoms and disease from infections like Covid or the flu, the stronger the antibody response. When existing antibodies are good enough to keep disease to a minimum (because fewer virus particles succeed in replicating in the body), we tend to see much lower amounts of antibodies than when someone ends up hospitalized from the coronavirus. Vaccines are a great way around that problem: They stimulate our immune systems to make antibodies, and other tailored defenses, even when there is no disease.

Right now the immunological makeup of the population is a mix. People who were infected with prior variants may now be catching Omicron infections, even if they’re also vaccinated. People who have never had Covid may be getting it now. It’s true that some people who got infected from an earlier Omicron variant in December, January or even more recently are catching BA.5 now, and becoming sick from it.

Alas, this current situation, where some are newly susceptible to infection while others remain protected, is no friend to nuance. It’s difficult to generalize broadly and make bold predictions concerning how well an individual or a population will hold up against infection now or later. But despite Omicron’s knack for circumventing antibodies, it’s clear that prior immunity, be it from vaccines or previous infections, protects from severe outcomes such as death and hospitalization. There has yet to be a variant that negates the benefits of vaccines.

Recently, an [early study]('https://assets.researchsquare.com/files/rs-1749502/v1/499445df-ebaf-4ab3-b30f-3028dff81fca.pdf?c=1655499468'), which was not peer-reviewed, [argued]('https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-covid-19-could-hit-you-harder-with-each-reinfection') that reinfections are just as dangerous as primary infections, but there is by no means a consensus on this among scientists and medical experts. (The study only really showed that getting reinfected is worse than not being reinfected.) Other scientists are concerned about the long-term risks of multiple reinfections. However, there is no debate that prior immunity, in most cases, reduces the severity of subsequent infections. Catching the coronavirus more than once or after vaccination does not necessarily put someone at risk for the most serious and chronically debilitating forms of long Covid, though more research is needed to understand what might predispose someone to that.

The Food and Drug Administration should move swiftly to authorize new booster shots that target Omicron variants. The existing data suggest that updated shots, even based on earlier Omicron lineages, would be more effective at preventing infections than continuing to use the current vaccine boosters, which are based on the original 2019 coronavirus spike.

In the meantime, if you are eligible, it’s wise to get boosted with the currently available shots, which are still outstanding at preventing hospitalization and death. (This is [especially critical for older people ]('https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/20/opinion/covid-19-deaths-vaccines-endemic.html').) Wearing a mask when mixing indoors and avoiding indoor dining when case numbers are high remains advisable for those who’d prefer not to kick the tires on their existing immunity. Fortunately, monoclonal antibody cocktails are available that remain effective against BA.5. One such product, Evusheld, is given prophylactically to protect patients, while others are used to treat severe infections. Paxlovid, which can be taken at home, may also be a good option for people who test positive and are [eligible]('https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-pharmacists-prescribe-paxlovid-certain-limitations') for it.

Most immunologists I know are cautiously optimistic about our long-term prospects. We don’t know exactly what this virus will do next, and we should never be dismissive of those who have a high risk profile or are dealing with long Covid. Nonetheless, most of us can have faith in our immune systems, especially when we make use of vaccines and boosters. Recorded history may hold little precedent for the ongoing Covid-19 pandemic. But this is not our immune systems’ first rodeo.

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Chevy1
Chevy1FREE2022#839

My son is better with no symptoms and tested Negative on Wednesday ??

M.H.
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TonySmjc
TonySmjcFREE2022#840

I’m better again too

Lots of ppl are telling me the home test don’t pick this one up so well
Had all the proper symptoms in the proper order
Took the home test said negative didn’t take another

Honestly I won’t take any more Covid test

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