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Boat overturns near Liberty Island killing an infant and a woman

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MakoMatt
MakoMattMODnoreaster.comAug 9#1

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-york-harbor-liberty-island-boat-overturn/

CaptainOriginal Crew2,132 postsSince 2018
Avenger
Avengernoreaster.comAug 9#2

14 people on a 22ft boat.

If only they had taken a boating safety class all of this could have been avoided.

Personal rants aside, how tragic for these people. Prayers for the families and those lost. 🙁

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CaptainOriginal Crew3,431 postsSince 2019
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poorrichardFREEAug 9#3

One of the things empasized in a Safe Boating Class is dont exceed the limits on the capacity plate
The capacity plate tells the operator the maximum load capacity of the vessel
in both people and pounds

MateOriginal Crew222 postsSince 2019
Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.comAug 9#4
poorrichard
One of the things empasized in a Safe Boating Class is dont exceed the limits on the capacity plate
The capacity plate tells the operator the maximum load capacity of the vessel
in both people and pounds

My 2013 22’ boat has no capacity plate, just an exemption from Diurnal Emissions Standards. As soon as I saw 12 people on that I commented OVERLOAD!!, but without a capacity plate, how is a Captain to know?

I called the MFG and was told it was a thing of the past.

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AdmiralOriginal Crew21,717 postsSince 2018
WhatKnot
WhatKnotFREEAug 9#5

I had a 23ft Boston Whaler I can’t imagine having 14 people on my boat. I’m sure this was an unlicensed excursion 😡 throw the book at this A hole.

Be Safe
CommodoreOriginal Crew12,915 postsSince 2019
OVERBORED
OVERBOREDFREEAug 10#6

None of the 14 people thought that it was unsafe?
Common sense is highly underrated.

poorrichard
One of the things empasized in a Safe Boating Class is dont exceed the limits on the capacity plate
The capacity plate tells the operator the maximum load capacity of the vessel
in both people and pounds

And another is having enough life jackets on board!

What is common sense to most is not to all.

"Chance only favors the prepared mind" - Pasteur
Captain4,161 postsSince 2021
jpd
jpdMODnoreaster.comAug 10#7
OVERBORED
None of the 14 people thought that it was unsafe?
Common sense is highly underrated.

And another is having enough life jackets on board!

What is common sense to most is not to all.

Plus with a group of fisherman here we'd be a little more aware of these things...

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CommodoreOriginal Crew9,876 postsSince 2018
BoatGuy
BoatGuynoreaster.comAug 10#8

I do feel bad for the people on the boat who may have thought they were safe and the owner would know better. Ever watch those Haulover YouTube videos where the bow runner with like 15 people, most in the front hit the waves?

First MateOriginal Crew780 postsSince 2019
OVERBORED
OVERBOREDFREEAug 10#9

Just read that the captain is being investigated for running illegal charters. He's in federal prison. To be continued

"Chance only favors the prepared mind" - Pasteur
Captain4,161 postsSince 2021
MakoMatt
MakoMattMODnoreaster.comAug 10#10

He’s in federal CUSTODY. Prison may be next.

CaptainOriginal Crew2,132 postsSince 2018
Avenger
Avengernoreaster.comAug 10#11

Typical news media this morning, he's in federal custody facing 13 NYPD charges.

Say do what?

The feds are locking people up on behalf of the NYPD now?

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CaptainOriginal Crew3,431 postsSince 2019
MakoMatt
MakoMattMODnoreaster.comAug 11#12
Avenger
Typical news media this morning, he's in federal custody facing 13 NYPD charges.

Say do what?

The feds are locking people up on behalf of the NYPD now with federal misconduct and neglect of a ship officer resulting in death, following initial local reckless endangerment counts by the NYPD.

Federal prosecutors took over the case and filed initial charges of federal misconduct and neglect of a ship officer resulting in death. This was following initial local reckless endangerment, 13 counts charged, by the NYPD. Additional federal charges will likely be filed, and the Feds will take jurisdiction over this case.

CaptainOriginal Crew2,132 postsSince 2018
Avenger
Avengernoreaster.comAug 11#13
MakoMatt
Federal prosecutors took over the case and filed initial charges of federal misconduct and neglect of a ship officer resulting in death. This was following initial local reckless endangerment, 13 counts charged, by the NYPD. Additional federal charges will likely be filed, and the Feds will take jurisdiction over this case.

Well, whoever wrote the copy sure didn't express that at all. They made it sound the way I described it. It's just another example of sloppy journalism.

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CaptainOriginal Crew3,431 postsSince 2019
Chinacat
ChinacatFREEAug 11#14

The initial incorrect information or reporting is irrelevant to this tragedy
The main headline or focus of the story is an unqualified and unlicensed operator took too many people including an infant on a boat and a 27 year old woman and a 5 month old baby lost their lives

At least I'm enjoyin' the ride.....
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,065 postsSince 2018
MakoMatt
MakoMattMODnoreaster.comAug 11#15
Chinacat
The initial incorrect information or reporting is irrelevant to this tragedy
The main headline or focus of the story is an unqualified and unlicensed operator took too many people including an infant on a boat and a 27 year old woman and a 5 month old baby lost their lives

The incorrect information happens often when there is a rush to the press to get out a fast developing big news story. Often referred to as “The fog of war”

Agreed, the bigger story here is the tragic senseless loss of life of an infant, and a young woman. May they both be welcomed into the Kingdom of God, and may the families somehow find peace.

CaptainOriginal Crew2,132 postsSince 2018
jpd
jpdMODnoreaster.comAug 19#16

More charges....oops!

[URL unfurl="true"]https://nypost.com/2026/08/19/us-news/captain-in-fatal-ny-harbor-boat-tragedy-is-illegal-immigrant-feds/

A lawyer with his briefcase can steal more than a hundred men with guns- Mario Puzo
CommodoreOriginal Crew9,876 postsSince 2018
longcast
longcastFREEAug 20#17
jpd
More charges....oops!

[URL unfurl="true"]https://nypost.com/2026/08/19/us-news/captain-in-fatal-ny-harbor-boat-tragedy-is-illegal-immigrant-feds/

The captain of an illegal charter boat that flipped in New York Harbor, killing a mom and her baby, is an illegal immigrant from El Salvador who is now in federal immigration custody, The Post has learned.

Notice the word "illegal"? Two different meanings in the same sentence. That's the brain teaser today.

AdmiralOriginal Crew20,417 postsSince 2019
OVERBORED
OVERBOREDFREEAug 20#18

An illegal doing something illegal? I'm shocked!

"Chance only favors the prepared mind" - Pasteur
Captain4,161 postsSince 2021
longcast
longcastFREEAug 20#19

Be careful, "illegal" does not have any true meaning. Illegal to speed, you get a ticket if caught. Illegally caught in the country, you get a phone and a care pack, and definitely benefits that legal folks get. Maybe even voting rights! Well, at least during the last administration.

AdmiralOriginal Crew20,417 postsSince 2019

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