If anyone out there still subscribes to the liberal rag known as Newsday, then you probably saw yesterday's predictable BS article about the huge local economic boom due to the Offshore Wind industry. Obviously the "environmental terrorists" believe they can pay off enough people to push this stuff through no matter how much we protest.
I am usually watching all this stuff pretty carefully, but one comment and particular statement really caught my eye. They were documenting the Port Jeff based boat from Miller Marine doing bottom surveys that started last year to explore where in the Sound they want to locate the electrical transmission cables. Supposedly these cables will be coming from the soon to be built Beacon 1 Wind farm. These turbines will be located 60 miles east of Montauk and 20 miles south of Nantucket! That is another 20 miles east of the South Fork Wind Farm being constructed on Coxes Ledge.!
Aside from the ridiculous length of this cable there was another statement that had an ominous sound to it. They talked about surveying the bottom not only for location of the cable but also "wind farm foundations"!! This could be interpreted several ways, but it sounds an awful lot like they want to locate some Wind Turbines in the Sound as well in the future. First hint I am getting of the next insane idea.
Do they think we're idiots!
Offshore wind farms to generate nearly $4 billion for NYS businesses
Five wind farms are to be built off Long Island's South Shore in the next few years, with the first farm expected to begin generating electricity later this year.
www.newsday.com
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CommodoreOriginal Crew7,034 postsSince 2018
and yesterday's
but my posting from my Snoozeday, admittedly a commie rag, brings me to the Question, where do you guys get your news ? Fox, LOL ? CNN ? The Daily Onion ? Surely not from News12 where after a 57 minute run everything is rewound.
but my posting from my Snoozeday, admittedly a commie rag, brings me to the Question, where do you guys get your news ? Fox, LOL ? CNN ? The Daily Onion ? Surely not from News12 where after a 57 minute run everything is rewound.
Every day is Saturday.
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,034 postsSince 2018
These are photos of a Block Island Windmill. The same company is building the windfarm in New York. I have been told that this is caused by grease leaking.
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CommodoreOriginal Crew5,174 postsSince 2018
These are photos of a Block Island Windmill. The same company is building the windfarm in New York. I have been told that this is caused by grease leaking.
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But don't worry we can still fish next to the platforms...for now!!!
These SOB's don't even have the guts to look at the obvious evidence of what they are doing to the planet they claim to want to save!
CaptainOriginal Crew1,853 postsSince 2018
These are photos of a Block Island Windmill. The same company is building the windfarm in New York. I have been told that this is caused by grease leaking.
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A byproduct of the gas & oil industry is being used as lubricant on something made to generate green energy. I also bet it was delivered and assembled on vessels that use internal combustion engines.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,665 postsSince 2018
can't they make grease out of whale blubber ? Now that would be ironic...
Doesn't look like there's going to be a shortage of that right now. 🙄
Chrome warns this may be a phishing site. Well, Duh,... Stupid jerks can't even spell fishing right.
CaptainOriginal Crew3,431 postsSince 2019
I'm not saying I know the answer, but where is the evidence? I'm eager to read it.
Correlation (pile driving the ocean floor at the same time more whales are dying than normal) does not prove causation.
If it did, you should never go to a hospital if you are sick, since death rates at the hospital are way above death rates elsewhere.
I doubt the high cost of eggs, the record low snowfall, or the war in Ukraine is the cause of the whale deaths either.
Is there any actual evidence of the cause?
Here is another possibility:
Ocean temperatures are increasing and arctic salinity is down. Arctic krill are way down, and coastal bunker are way up. Are there more local whales now, chasing local bunker, not arctic krill, than in recent times? Is more local whales causing the increase in boat strikes?
Whales are pretty smart. Why would seismic testing and pile driving prevent them from knowing a boat is fast approaching?
"all that noise is driving them crazy" fits a nice narrative, but is there any actual evidence to back it up?
Correlation (pile driving the ocean floor at the same time more whales are dying than normal) does not prove causation.
If it did, you should never go to a hospital if you are sick, since death rates at the hospital are way above death rates elsewhere.
I doubt the high cost of eggs, the record low snowfall, or the war in Ukraine is the cause of the whale deaths either.
Is there any actual evidence of the cause?
Here is another possibility:
Ocean temperatures are increasing and arctic salinity is down. Arctic krill are way down, and coastal bunker are way up. Are there more local whales now, chasing local bunker, not arctic krill, than in recent times? Is more local whales causing the increase in boat strikes?
Whales are pretty smart. Why would seismic testing and pile driving prevent them from knowing a boat is fast approaching?
"all that noise is driving them crazy" fits a nice narrative, but is there any actual evidence to back it up?
First MateOriginal Crew693 postsSince 2019
Whales are pretty smart. Why would seismic testing and pile driving prevent them from knowing a boat is fast approaching?
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Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,717 postsSince 2018
I'm not saying I know the answer, but where is the evidence? I'm eager to read it.
Correlation (pile driving the ocean floor at the same time more whales are dying than normal) does not prove causation.
If it did, you should never go to a hospital if you are sick, since death rates at the hospital are way above death rates elsewhere.
I doubt the high cost of eggs, the record low snowfall, or the war in Ukraine is the cause of the whale deaths either.
Is there any actual evidence of the cause?
Here is another possibility:
Ocean temperatures are increasing and arctic salinity is down. Arctic krill are way down, and coastal bunker are way up. Are there more local whales now, chasing local bunker, not arctic krill, than in recent times? Is more local whales causing the increase in boat strikes?
Whales are pretty smart. Why would seismic testing and pile driving prevent them from knowing a boat is fast approaching?
"all that noise is driving them crazy" fits a nice narrative, but is there any actual evidence to back it up?
You can Google survey sonars effects on whales, and you will find plenty of scientific data suggesting that it does in fact confused them. They hear it as a threat and in some cases they will beach themselves in an effort to get away.
It's hard to prove anything when we're not given any cause of death. Except for those with boat strikes.
When it comes to the ocean there's little that can be proven. We don't see what's happening. That's why almost all of our regulations are 50% accurate. That's when common sense comes in. And in this case common sense tells me that this process is killing whales and dolphins. Period. It's not coincidence. It's cause and effect.
George R. Scocca
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CommodoreOriginal Crew5,174 postsSince 2018
I'm not saying I know the answer, but where is the evidence? I'm eager to read it.
Correlation (pile driving the ocean floor at the same time more whales are dying than normal) does not prove causation.
If it did, you should never go to a hospital if you are sick, since death rates at the hospital are way above death rates elsewhere.
I doubt the high cost of eggs, the record low snowfall, or the war in Ukraine is the cause of the whale deaths either.
Is there any actual evidence of the cause?
Here is another possibility:
Ocean temperatures are increasing and arctic salinity is down. Arctic krill are way down, and coastal bunker are way up. Are there more local whales now, chasing local bunker, not arctic krill, than in recent times? Is more local whales causing the increase in boat strikes?
Whales are pretty smart. Why would seismic testing and pile driving prevent them from knowing a boat is fast approaching?
"all that noise is driving them crazy" fits a nice narrative, but is there any actual evidence to back it up?
This is Occam's Razor. The simplest explanation is the the most likely. Stop giving correlation doesn't = causation sh!t. In this case Correlation is Causation.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,100 postsSince 2019
the rise in ocean temperature did not occur overnight. Yet since the wind fall, er, farm stuff started, there seems to be a lot more whales ending up on the beach and / or struck by ships than the norm of just a couple of years before the increase of sonar soundings for windfarm placements started. Co inky dink ? Follow the money or follow the dead whales. Same same. I am hoping however that every last piping plover flies into the windmill fans, even if they do taste like chicken.
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CommodoreOriginal Crew7,034 postsSince 2018
I'm not saying I know the answer, but where is the evidence? I'm eager to read it.
Correlation (pile driving the ocean floor at the same time more whales are dying than normal) does not prove causation.
If it did, you should never go to a hospital if you are sick, since death rates at the hospital are way above death rates elsewhere.
I doubt the high cost of eggs, the record low snowfall, or the war in Ukraine is the cause of the whale deaths either.
Is there any actual evidence of the cause?
Here is another possibility:
Ocean temperatures are increasing and arctic salinity is down. Arctic krill are way down, and coastal bunker are way up. Are there more local whales now, chasing local bunker, not arctic krill, than in recent times? Is more local whales causing the increase in boat strikes?
Whales are pretty smart. Why would seismic testing and pile driving prevent them from knowing a boat is fast approaching?
"all that noise is driving them crazy" fits a nice narrative, but is there any actual evidence to back it up?
You can Google survey sonars effects on whales, and you will find plenty of scientific data suggesting that it does in fact confused them. They hear it as a threat and in some cases they will beach themselves in an effort to get away.
It's hard to prove anything when we're not given any cause of death. Except for those with boat strikes.
George R. Scocca
george@nyangler.com
www.nyangler.com - Your Secret Spot Online !
george@nyangler.com
www.nyangler.com - Your Secret Spot Online !
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,174 postsSince 2018
I'm not saying I know the answer, but where is the evidence? I'm eager to read it.
Correlation (pile driving the ocean floor at the same time more whales are dying than normal) does not prove causation.
If it did, you should never go to a hospital if you are sick, since death rates at the hospital are way above death rates elsewhere.
I doubt the high cost of eggs, the record low snowfall, or the war in Ukraine is the cause of the whale deaths either.
Is there any actual evidence of the cause?
Here is another possibility:
Ocean temperatures are increasing and arctic salinity is down. Arctic krill are way down, and coastal bunker are way up. Are there more local whales now, chasing local bunker, not arctic krill, than in recent times? Is more local whales causing the increase in boat strikes?
Whales are pretty smart. Why would seismic testing and pile driving prevent them from knowing a boat is fast approaching?
"all that noise is driving them crazy" fits a nice narrative, but is there any actual evidence to back it up?
You’re quick to bring up narrative. So let’s start there. Obviously a certain group wants green energy. Did they put the work in and do the research or just start construction because it “fits the narrative”.
Obviously whales are dying. What has changed recently in these habitats? The windmills are rather new. Maybe there’s a correlation. Could it be something else. Sure. But these windmills could also be the cause.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,665 postsSince 2018
Just heard NJ governor Murphy state that the wind farms have nothing to with the whale deaths and that the project will proceed as scheduled.
With the billions in licensing fees in pocket, (in addition to campaign contributions)states will continue ignoring this issue until the can't!
God bless America!
With the billions in licensing fees in pocket, (in addition to campaign contributions)states will continue ignoring this issue until the can't!
God bless America!
"Chance only favors the prepared mind" - Pasteur
Captain4,161 postsSince 2021
Did this also happen when they piled drived the crap out of the ocean/AND USED EXPLOSIVES building offshore oil rigs? How in the world is even the different types of energy we need politicized? The answer is we will need a mix of both for a long time.
The offshore oil rigs also posed the risk of oil leaks on top of the same or worse construction effects on marine life.
Both things for sure are going to cause some disruption to surrounding sea life especially noise sensitive mammals, but right now anything washing up on shore is front page news and any other possibility is thrown out the window by hard core anti GREEN. Gov. Murphy seems like an honorable man as far as politicians go, seriously how do you identify that wind turbines are killing them? Do we put/drop some whales with trackers out there and continue construction and see what happens to them. Does an autopsy show this? Does Mr. Spock mind meld with them ? IDK
The offshore oil rigs also posed the risk of oil leaks on top of the same or worse construction effects on marine life.
Both things for sure are going to cause some disruption to surrounding sea life especially noise sensitive mammals, but right now anything washing up on shore is front page news and any other possibility is thrown out the window by hard core anti GREEN. Gov. Murphy seems like an honorable man as far as politicians go, seriously how do you identify that wind turbines are killing them? Do we put/drop some whales with trackers out there and continue construction and see what happens to them. Does an autopsy show this? Does Mr. Spock mind meld with them ? IDK
CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018
They figured out a way to make oil rigs float. Can a windmill float?
Now we know why "they" wanted to make George's Bank a Marine Protected Area.........more windmills.
Someone figured out how to lease the ocean.
God bless America!
Now we know why "they" wanted to make George's Bank a Marine Protected Area.........more windmills.
Someone figured out how to lease the ocean.
God bless America!
"Chance only favors the prepared mind" - Pasteur
Captain4,161 postsSince 2021
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