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"I want me an electric outboard!" said no serious boater ever!!!

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Roccus7
Roccus7MOD2021#1
OY, once the Greenies find out about this, they're start touting this as the best thing since Ole Evinrude invented the outboard!!


Not ready for prime time, IMO. Motor weight isn't that much better, 80 HP electric 320 lbs vs 362 for a 4 stroke 75 HP Yammie, BUT what about the batteries? The 80 HP needs two batteries, total weight 1019 lbs!!! Considering 100 gallons of gas only weighs 630 gallons, and will get you far further than an electic motor can before you have to recharge, this is a non-starter...
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
jpd
jpdMOD2021#2
High voltage + water....I'd pass
CommodoreOriginal Crew9,821 postsSince 2018
Roccus7
Roccus7MOD2021#3
OY, once the Greenies find out about this, they're start touting this as the best thing since Ole Evinrude invented the outboard!!


Not ready for prime time, IMO. Motor weight isn't that much better, 80 HP electric 320 lbs vs 362 for a 4 stroke 75 HP Yammie, BUT what about the batteries? The 80 HP needs two batteries, total weight 1019 lbs!!! Considering 100 gallons of gas only weighs 630 gallons, and will get you far further than an electic motor can before you have to recharge, this is a non-starter...
LOL, watched another video LOVE the 1 hr battery life at top speed, which is around 37 mph on a custom made boat with 2 of the engines and BMW car batteries!!! The tool hyping the engine says, "Well if you cruise at 6 - 8 MPH, they could last all day!!" ROTFFLMFAO!!!
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
Roccus7
Roccus7MOD2021#4
High voltage + water....I'd pass
Salt water no less, LOL!!!
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
Roccus7
Roccus7MOD2021#5
LOL, watched another video LOVE the 1 hr battery life at top speed, which is around 37 mph on a custom made boat with 2 of the engines and BMW car batteries!!! The tool hyping the engine says, "Well if you cruise at 6 - 8 MPH, they could last all day!!" ROTFFLMFAO!!!
Also found out the "80" really isn't an "80", but it's a 50 - 80 HP engine, DFAQ???

ROTFFLMFAO!!! When I hit the lottery I am so running right out and buying myself a whole fleet of these, right after I buy the Brooklyn Bridge...
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
cany
canyMOD2021#6
Wonder if its like running a Minkotta
AdmiralOriginal Crew40,955 postsSince 2018
Chinacat
ChinacatFREE2021#7
Clearly NOT ready for Prime Time yet and I'm certainly not likely to get one anytime soon BUT I have no issues with such forward thinking ideas to see if they can make it work someday
Maybe not practical for coastal applications but maybe it would work on the shit load of lakes between both coasts so why poo poo it?
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,060 postsSince 2018
captmike28
captmike28FREE2021#8
How much do you think you will have to pay Sea Tow for a charge when your battery craps out?🤔

Nice idea but it looks like we are still a long way off from making the total nirvana of "all green energy" a reality.
CaptainOriginal Crew1,847 postsSince 2018
cany
canyMOD2021#9
How much do you think you will have to pay Sea Tow for a charge when your battery craps out?🤔

Nice idea but it looks like we are still a long way off from making the total nirvana of "all green energy" a reality.
Same price as when your outboard craps out battery 🙄🙄
AdmiralOriginal Crew40,955 postsSince 2018
Roccus7
Roccus7MOD2021#10
Clearly NOT ready for Prime Time yet and I'm certainly not likely to get one anytime soon BUT I have no issues with such forward thinking ideas to see if they can make it work someday
Maybe not practical for coastal applications but maybe it would work on the shit load of lakes between both coasts so why poo poo it?
I'll be the first to admit that my brain only considers salt water fishing when it comes to boats, my bad, but that's how the gray matter is wired. So yes, I should take the time to consider other options, but it's tough to teach an old sea dog new tricks. Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maximal culpa...

Funny story when we lived in IL while taking a weekend drive in an area with many lakes smaller than Lake Ronkonkoma. We passed a large "In Water Boat Show, 1 mi Ahead!!" sign. The Admiral said, "Don't you want to stop?" "Sure, why not? I could use a 10 minute break." "10 minutes?" "Yeah, I doubt I'll even see 1 boat I'd consider talking to someone about."

Got to the place, there were ~6 docks with 10 boats on each. Predictably, there wasn't a single CC in the lot, mostly ski boats and party barges, sorry, pontoon boats, but I did stroll down each dock, and including the potty break, we were there 12 whole minutes.

During another boat show in a Lake Michigan marina where there were a couple of CCs of a brand totally unknown to me, I walked right past one that a quick glance told me was so poorly made a run in a chop would have bounced the thing apart. My friend, a person with zero boating experience, insisted I take a closer look because it was so nice looking, so I hopped on board, got on my back and peeked under the gunnel. As Poseidon is my witness, things like the pole holders were NOT secured with nuts and bolts, but screwed in w/wood screws and no additional backing!! The dealer rep was there with the "Beautiful boat, huh? You got any questions?" I bit my tongue until it bled and shook my head, but really wanted to say, "I wouldn't take this POS even if you gave it to me!!! You should be ashamed of the construction and quality!!" I'm sure that some were sold to the "Oh look, it's SHINY!!" crowd, but life on a small lake is easy for a boat. If any of the Lake Michigan crowd bought these, they probably were horribly surprised.
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
captmike28
"Same price as when your outboard craps out" Cany


Actually, I suspect it could be a lot more when you consider how much time he might have to be on site to charge your dead one! Or they may have to come up with a loaner system to just exchange that heavy beast in your bilge to get you home. Or just tow you in with a good old reliable combustion engine in their boat!!!

We already know the insane weight differential that exists with the current battery technology needed to power these modern electric things. Heck, I can't even lift my Group 31 8D my house battery out of the bilge alone. That beast tips the scales at well over 120#!
CaptainOriginal Crew1,847 postsSince 2018
cany
canyMOD2021#12
"Same price as when your outboard craps out" Cany


Actually, I suspect it could be a lot more when you consider how much time he might have to be on site to charge your dead one! Or they may have to come up with a loaner system to just exchange that heavy beast in your bilge to get you home. Or just tow you in with a good old reliable combustion engine in their boat!!!

We already know the insane weight differential that exists with the current battery technology needed to power these modern electric things. Heck, I can't even lift my Group 31 8D my house battery out of the bilge alone. That beast tips the scales at well over 120#!
A jump is a jump no?
AdmiralOriginal Crew40,955 postsSince 2018
Roccus7
Roccus7MOD2021#13
"Same price as when your outboard craps out" Cany


Actually, I suspect it could be a lot more when you consider how much time he might have to be on site to charge your dead one! Or they may have to come up with a loaner system to just exchange that heavy beast in your bilge to get you home. Or just tow you in with a good old reliable combustion engine in their boat!!!

We already know the insane weight differential that exists with the current battery technology needed to power these modern electric things. Heck, I can't even lift my Group 31 8D my house battery out of the bilge alone. That beast tips the scales at well over 120#!
A jump is a jump no?
I assume that it will be a tow, not a jump, and a tow is a tow.

When will Sea Tow boats be equipped with jumping capabilities strong enough to get a significant charge in place on the boat?

Does AAA jump Teslas or just tow them to a charging station?
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,694 postsSince 2018
cany
canyMOD2021#14
I assume that it will be a tow, not a jump, and a tow is a tow.

When will Sea Tow boats be equipped with jumping capabilities strong enough to get a significant charge in place on the boat?

Does AAA jump Teslas or just tow them to a charging station?
A Tow is what I was getting at
AdmiralOriginal Crew40,955 postsSince 2018
live bait
live baitFREE2021#15
I guess my old mind is closed on this, I don't see any electric boat on my trailer, or electric vehicle in my driveway..
John
CaptainOriginal Crew1,979 postsSince 2018
BoatGuy
BoatGuyFREE2021#16
OY, once the Greenies find out about this: Short sighted. Lithium batteries will the next toxic thing we will have to find a way to recycle.
First MateOriginal Crew780 postsSince 2019
jpd
jpdMOD2021#17
Between our limited electrical capacity that will have to expand tremendously for all the cars they want to make, and the fact that China controls almost all of the rare earth elements required to construct the batteries - what could go wrong?
CommodoreOriginal Crew9,821 postsSince 2018
pequa1
pequa1MOD2021#18
As things now stand, China already owns us. Perhaps hydrogen fuel cells could change things.
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,027 postsSince 2018
george
georgeADMIN2021#19
It is inevitable that one day, probably not in my lifetime, it will become reality.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,158 postsSince 2018
Chinacat
ChinacatFREE2021#20
So I came across this and it kinda supports my point what i was saying above about the electric/battery powered motors and rather than flat out poo poo-ing them because they are not suitable for our local saltwater needs, why not recognize there are other applications that would be totally fine and acceptable and help accomplish the goal to embrace other technology. I don't recall seeing any other threads regarding propane motors so check this out.
I don't see why not use them on lakes and streams where allowed. I see no reason they wouldn't work on tenders for peeps putting around harbors, or going to their moorings.

CommodoreOriginal Crew7,060 postsSince 2018
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