Shotguns
Picked up a Mossberg 500 Persuader .410 pistol grip specifically for home defense that the wife can use incase of emergency. Smaller and shorter and easier to use, but it still has the visual impact and if chambering a round doesn't scare the intruder off, well the personal home defense ammo will get the job done.
First MateOriginal Crew417 postsSince 2018
Silly me, I've never considered any of my guns to be for personal protection unless I run into some rabid scoters...
Shall I go to heaven or a-fishing? - H. D. Thoreau
Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,717 postsSince 2018
Anyone thinking that a pistol gripped 12 or even 20 gauge shotty is the thing for HD, better take it to a range, preferably an outdoor one, and shoot a few rounds. You may find yourself putting an ace bandage on your wrist afterward. Personally, the best HD firearm for HD is probably a handgun, with a caliber starting with a 4, but the license application takes time and in some cases, moolah. Not easy for a perp to grab the barrel of your handgun. As for spray and pray with a shotgun, at hallway to kitchen distances, you still have to aim, as even with an improved cylinder choke the spread will not be much wider than a bathroom wastebasket opening unless you use bird shot. Bird shot might only make a perp mad if you hit him in the chest while he's wearing a leather jacket, but the aforementioned buck shot will go through two sheets of sheetrock like they weren't there. And finally, my advice to any first time shooter is, for the defense of family, one must not hesitate but shoot to kill and do so forthwith. If you do not believe that you or a family member can do this, get a big dog.
One final note: the sound of racking a round for your shotgun or a semi auto pistol can alert an intruder who also might be armed. Revolvers have no safeties so there is no wondering if its ready to go. Except when I am deer hunting, I do not use a safety at all, especially not on my 9mm or 1911. My safety is in using my brain and keeping that little finger out of the trigger guard.
One final note: the sound of racking a round for your shotgun or a semi auto pistol can alert an intruder who also might be armed. Revolvers have no safeties so there is no wondering if its ready to go. Except when I am deer hunting, I do not use a safety at all, especially not on my 9mm or 1911. My safety is in using my brain and keeping that little finger out of the trigger guard.
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CommodoreOriginal Crew7,034 postsSince 2018
Thanks for the info and advice Pequa!
Looking around on some of the local sites here and so many of them have very low inventory. One site says 4-6 months of backlog.
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CornField
CornField
AdmiralOriginal Crew41,107 postsSince 2018
OH one other thing I dont now if any of you have fired a shotgun in a house or an enclosed space it will blow up your ear drums and leave you seriously disoriented for a bit trust me and thats not a good thing with an intruder or 2 in your house
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CornField
CornField
AdmiralOriginal Crew41,107 postsSince 2018
Way to many people who have no knowlage of guns are buying up shotguns for home defense......thats a scary thing
That would be me! Sorry but I believe I need to do something.And it seems many others all of a sudden feel the same way recently. 2A is our right and I would think there is no bad time to exercise that. But I feel i may be very late.
I fired rifles as a teenager with my dad but that was a while ago and some handguns at the range in my 20's.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,100 postsSince 2019
That would be me! Sorry but I believe I need to do something.And it seems many others all of a sudden feel the same way recently. 2A is our right and I would think there is no bad time to exercise that. But I feel i may be very late.
I fired rifles as a teenager with my dad but that was a while ago and some handguns at the range in my 20's.
General cany, Watching always Watching
CornField
CornField
AdmiralOriginal Crew41,107 postsSince 2018
Training would help, and I really don't want to keep harping on it, but if one is not hunting Bambi's grandfather but protecting the family, one must be absolutely sure that one would not hesitate but would permanently end the threat. and Cany, I think the majority of these assholes who bought their first boat must be boating out of Matzohpizza this summer...
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CommodoreOriginal Crew7,034 postsSince 2018
I agree on the 2A right and fully support it but its not something you jump into because you can...... look at all the people who get a car or a boat because then can and have no clue on how to use them
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,100 postsSince 2019
Thanks for the info and advice Pequa!
Looking around on some of the local sites here and so many of them have very low inventory. One site says 4-6 months of backlog.
Every day is Saturday.
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,034 postsSince 2018
Guys - I found a brand new
Winchester Model SXP DEFENDER Tactical Riot 12GA Shotgun 18" 5RD SUPER X 12
Its an older model but new from a dealer out of state.
Is this an OK shotgun? Will a local dealer with an FFL accept it for me after I pay the out of state seller?
Here is a video of it.
Winchester Model SXP DEFENDER Tactical Riot 12GA Shotgun 18" 5RD SUPER X 12
Its an older model but new from a dealer out of state.
Is this an OK shotgun? Will a local dealer with an FFL accept it for me after I pay the out of state seller?
Here is a video of it.
CommodoreOriginal Crew5,100 postsSince 2019
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Anyone thinking that a pistol gripped 12 or even 20 gauge shotty is the thing for HD, better take it to a range, preferably an outdoor one, and shoot a few rounds. You may find yourself putting an ace bandage on your wrist afterward. Personally, the best HD firearm for HD is probably a handgun, with a caliber starting with a 4, but the license application takes time
I could not agree more. Way too many people see a shotgun being fired with 1 hand in the movies and think its the way to do it. Watch you tube "gun fails." I also agree with the pistol, way too easy for an intruder to grab the barrel so it is not pointing at them especially if you are stalking the intruder instead of getting your family safe in a corner behind you with the gun. No need to stalk, just wait as long as everyone is accounted for (from experience). Also it's not easy to take a life, be it animal or human. Better be prepared to take that life if you point a gun at someone.
"The deer hunter habitually watches the next bend; the duck hunter watches the skyline; the bird hunter watches the dog; and the non-hunter does not watch." Aldo Leopold
"Many men go fishing all their lives without knowing it is not the fish they are after." Henry David Thoreau
"Many men go fishing all their lives without knowing it is not the fish they are after." Henry David Thoreau
First MateOriginal Crew693 postsSince 2019
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