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I'm ready for a New Lighter Tog Set up

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EssexFREE2019#21

Conventionally, TSSPJ-C661MH. 30lb braid

For jigging, I use a Trevala S spinning rod with a Penn Conflict 2500.

I am sorry to keep asking question, but I think I might go with that setup. Can it handle a lot of lead and does it have a lot of backbone? It looks light but just wondering if it you have had issues! Thanks so much in advance

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DeckhandOriginal Crew26 postsSince 2019

Capt13FREE2019#22

Can it handle a lot of lead and does it have a lot of backbone?

I would think it would be ok for up to 5 maybe 6 ounces.

“The greatest things ever done on earth have been done little by little"

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CaptainOriginal Crew2,530 postsSince 2018

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noreaster.com2019#23

I fish with two guys that own those little Accurate Valiant 300 lever-drag jammies. I have to admit, not only are they super-tiny, but very strong as well. A beautiful piece of American engineering. Expensive as all get-out though.

My little built-up Abu "Mini-togger" reels are some nice pieces. Over the past 10-15 years I've custom crafted and tuned maybe 25-30 of them. Every one a little different - and as we progressed down that road over the years, every one a little bit lighter/stronger than the ones preceding it. But these are not for everybody - custom anything costs money, and there are far less expensive options out there.

However, if you wanna be uniquely different, no one else will have one - because you designed it! That appeals to me, and a handful of other guys out there as well. Is it really any different than fishing with a custom-built rod? Having a TRUE custom rod/reel combo, something only you own, is well, special.

Believe me, I'm NOT soliciting any new reel builds, just making a point. In truth, I've always done these for the cost of the parts - never made a dime on any of them. It takes a good amount of time to research and gather the latest hot-rodding parts from vendors all over the World, and the assembly seldom is true bolt-on. Nothing "custom" ever seems to be. So I've worn out a few Dremel tools doing this, not to mention my patience and eyesight aren't what they once were. . .

Anyway, in the relative "cost-effective" category, I like the Daiwa Lexa 300-series very much - after working on a bunch of them, they do seem to hold up nicely. But I hear that Daiwa discontinued this reel in the 5:1 gear ratio. Now only 6:1, or something like that available. Might not be an issue for most, but I fish with my custom little 3.8:1 reels, and believe me, there's a HUGE difference in tog-pulling power.

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Is that a Snapon toolbox I see in the back round

General cany, Watching always Watching
CornField

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AdmiralOriginal Crew41,107 postsSince 2018

EssexFREE2019#24

I would think it would be ok for up to 5 maybe 6 ounces.

I am new to Tog but usually don’t you need more lead for Tog to hold bottom?

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DeckhandOriginal Crew26 postsSince 2019

Capt13FREE2019#25

Depending on where and when you are fishing, weights can range from a 1/2 oz jig on up to 16 ounces of lead. You need to choose your rod and reel accordingly.

“The greatest things ever done on earth have been done little by little"

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CaptainOriginal Crew2,530 postsSince 2018

EssexFREE2019#26

Depending on where and when you are fishing, weights can range from a 1/2 oz jig on up to 16 ounces of lead. You need to choose your rod and reel accordingly.

Are you familiar with the Black Demon from jigging world is that a rod that will allow me more flexibility? I will be mainly fishing in NY Bight

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DeckhandOriginal Crew26 postsSince 2019

Mbg75FREE2019#27

I am sorry to keep asking question, but I think I might go with that setup. Can it handle a lot of lead and does it have a lot of backbone? It looks light but just wondering if it you have had issues! Thanks so much in advance

It will fish 6oz, it’s not really a “backbone” rod. On a good fish it will bend right to the handle. It’s not really a rod that you pump. Rely on a decent reel to get the fish in.
I use it for Striped bass, Seabass, Tog, even for fishing Mahi off Pots.

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DeckhandOriginal Crew32 postsSince 2019

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noreaster.com2019#28

Cany - I owned a Snap-on distributorship for 13 years. Bensonhurst, Brooklyn. . .

"Luck" is when preparation meets opportunity.
I prefer fishing evolution to fishing extinction.
If ya want to clean up the water, ya gotta get the pigs out of the creek.

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CaptainOriginal Crew2,216 postsSince 2018

JoeBfishingFREE2019#29

I remember you saying that Pete on the first site. Also something said about be being robbed or mugged possibly at gun point while in your work truck/van? Not to change the topic but it never left my mind every time I see your posts.

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CommodoreOriginal Crew5,902 postsSince 2018

captmike28FREE2019#30

Hi George,
IMHO, choosing tackle that suits any angler tends to be a pretty personal decision. What one fisherman thinks is absolutely terrific, the next will say is just so-so.
Having said that, my personal favorite Tog set up is a Capt. Neil built CTS BS 703 with the same Avet SX 5.3 you mentioned. Very light and sensitive yet I find I can easily swing up to 10 oz. on that blank no problem. Also, I have taken several DD Tog on this setup, no problem.
I know a lot of folks have had issues with the smaller Avets, but with a decent amount of PM I have had almost no isues with mine for over 5 years now.
Of course, if you can convince Lep to build you one of his special "super tuned" Abu's that is a very tough act to follow.
Good luck in your quest for the ultimate Tog outift that suits you best.
Capt. Mike

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CaptainOriginal Crew1,853 postsSince 2018

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noreaster.com2019#31

JoeB - yes, that’s true. A particularly nasty episode in my life. Nothing like having a gun shoved in your ear for three hours to make you re-evaluate your career choices. Too bad, because I really enjoyed owning that business. And made quite a nice living at it too. Wifey and my Mom were absolutely opposed to me getting back in my truck, so that was that.

"Luck" is when preparation meets opportunity.
I prefer fishing evolution to fishing extinction.
If ya want to clean up the water, ya gotta get the pigs out of the creek.

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CaptainOriginal Crew2,216 postsSince 2018

JoeBfishingFREE2019#32

I can see in your builds, your boat , your fishing, your articles/posts, sharing how to posts especially, home, recipes that it shows...we all here have been the recipients of so much! That could have been taken away by the “lowest” on the earth. And not have even known it!! But we do.
I thank you sir.

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CommodoreOriginal Crew5,902 postsSince 2018

yourinmyspotFREE2019#33

All depends on how light you want to fish. If you are thinking about the challenger bank medium then and you want a lever drag, the valiant you chose is nice. That said for a lot less money and similar functionality you could get the Seigler SGN. If you are thinking a star drag the Saltist 20 is a great bang for the buck, but if I were spending someone else's $$ (like yours) i'd go with the saltiga star or even the new Ocea Jigger that comes out shortly. The advantage of that Ocea is the lower gear ratio option. If you want a baitcaster type try the shimano tranx mini with either the paddle handles or power handle.

And yes, to preempt the comments, they are all complete overkill....but fancy and shiny is worth something too!!

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DeckhandOriginal Crew19 postsSince 2019

Edgram2000FREE2019#34

CTS BJ701 you will never look back...

Agree

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MateOriginal Crew51 postsSince 2018

HighHook4HireFREE2019#35

I am just about to build my first rod for blackfish and fluke jigging. I am building it on the BH Challenger Bank 701L . It will be a split grip spinner. All parts and build kit are en route, so hopefully I will have it ready for test in the next few weeks. I just got into blackfish last season so I cannot speak too much regarding my preferences yet, but I have been using an e6x inshore 7' mhf so far this season and it has been excellent jigs up to about 1-1/2oz. Heavier setup is a terez 8m that lost about 6" off the top from the previous owner. Have not had a good day with it yet, but it certainly feels like a winner. 731m acid wrap build in my future perhaps?

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MateOriginal Crew98 postsSince 2019

Capt RichieFREE2019#36

I am just about to build my first rod for blackfish and fluke jigging. I am building it on the BH Challenger Bank 701L . It will be a split grip spinner. All parts and build kit are en route, so hopefully I will have it ready for test in the next few weeks. I just got into blackfish last season so I cannot speak too much regarding my preferences yet, but I have been using an e6x inshore 7' mhf so far this season and it has been excellent jigs up to about 1-1/2oz. Heavier setup is a terez 8m that lost about 6" off the top from the previous owner. Have not had a good day with it yet, but it certainly feels like a winner. 731m acid wrap build in my future perhaps?

best of luck with your new rod...enjoy the craft

custom crafted fishing rods and blanks from United Composites UC AR custom blanks ...CTS & CTS AR custom blanks ..Phenix M1 and UMBX...

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CaptainOriginal Crew1,185 postsSince 2019

movetheboatFREE2020#37

I'm really digging the black hole 6'8" charter special with an IRT 300...THE BLANK IS AS GOOD AS THE CHALLENGER 701L as per KILSONG whose word is golden....but less hurt in the pocket....but i will go to the NJ saltwater show to check em out before plunking down that type of cash ....also I have to unload some stuff on Ebay......anybody have experience with the blank or reel?

I will surely use to jig blacks....but also fluking too......thank you!! 🙂

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CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018

FlukinitFREE2020#38

I'm really digging the black hole 6'8" charter special with an IRT 300...THE BLANK IS AS GOOD AS THE CHALLENGER 701L as per KILSONG whose word is golden....but less hurt in the pocket....but i will go to the NJ saltwater show to check em out before plunking down that type of cash ....also I have to unload some stuff on Ebay......anybody have experience with the blank or reel?

I will surely use to jig blacks....but also fluking too......thank you!! 🙂

If your looking to unload fishing stuff why go to ebay why not try here 1st. Lots of local guys and items priced nicely will go. Good luck.

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First MateOriginal Crew255 postsSince 2018

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noreaster.com2020#39

Gene - I’ve written about this rod (as a spiral wrapped conventional) a few times on this board. Last season it was my go-to ocean fluking stick, carrying a Daiwa Zillion Coastal baitcaster. Awesome with jigs to 6oz. I highly recommend it. Love it to death. I bought mine from Kilsong's Black Hole booth at the Edison, NJ show last March. He had plenty of other outstanding sticks and blanks there to inspect as well.

"Luck" is when preparation meets opportunity.
I prefer fishing evolution to fishing extinction.
If ya want to clean up the water, ya gotta get the pigs out of the creek.

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CaptainOriginal Crew2,216 postsSince 2018

movetheboatFREE2020#40

Thanks Pete!! I'm going to check them out at Edison...it appears the blackhole booth and the IRT booth are next to each other....IRT sells the combos and should have a SHOW SPECIAL

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CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018

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