Thanks for your personal preference and some more ideas, including a few other names I have seen before but never handled.
I just started a CTS thread and would love to hear more about your BJ 700 and 701 experiences.
I am sure that Richie's rods are much nicer than mine, but my time is already free. 🙂
I'm ready for a New Lighter Tog Set up
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Lep, do you think your grappler setup would handle Tog good, if using the tog jigs? or would the rod be too light?
Commodore5,031 postsSince 2020
Well, that depends on where you intend to use it and your comfort level with a "lighter" stick. The short answer: probably yes. My tiny Evict 2000 reel is certainly up to the task, no tog can pull as hard as a 6' brown shark, and that reel polished it right off. Great, super-smooth drag on these moderate-priced Tsunami reels. I am thoroughly impressed.
The rod can handle up to a 5oz sinker, maybe a 6, if you push it. I consider it a "magnum" action for fluke, but a light-ish action for tog. For me, based on the size of the fish that came up on my buddy Capt. Mike's boat out East last season, I really want more horsepower, and so I purchased a Black Hole Charter Special, the 6'8" slow pitch model. I covered a bit of this subject in the Tackle Review thread.
We did see several DD mega-tog on his boat last season, so I don't want to be under-gunned, should a biggie pick up my jig and make a run for his favorite rock. The Grappler would be a lot more fun, for sure. But it ain't "fun" when you lose a monster. Trust me, I've lost my share over the years.
I intend to also give this "jigging thing" a fair shot on my local South Shore mid-depth reefs and various hard bottom pieces, when the tide permits. Additionally, I'll give it a go on the very deep bottom I fish, at the end of the season. Can't use it there all the time, but for that period of time when the tide changes, I think a 2-3oz jig will find bottom out there. Again, we shall see.
Anyway, the best thing you could do is to go to a quality tackle shop, like Trophy Tackle in West Babylon, bring whatever reel you will be using, and give all the candidates a good looking over. You might find the Grappler ML perfectly fine for your needs. It IS a gorgeous stick, with a beautiful moderate bend to it. And don't forget, Shimano makes about 400 other models in that Grappler line, so you will probably find exactly what you are looking for - but you do need to go look. Rod power and action are soooo subjective. . .
The rod can handle up to a 5oz sinker, maybe a 6, if you push it. I consider it a "magnum" action for fluke, but a light-ish action for tog. For me, based on the size of the fish that came up on my buddy Capt. Mike's boat out East last season, I really want more horsepower, and so I purchased a Black Hole Charter Special, the 6'8" slow pitch model. I covered a bit of this subject in the Tackle Review thread.
We did see several DD mega-tog on his boat last season, so I don't want to be under-gunned, should a biggie pick up my jig and make a run for his favorite rock. The Grappler would be a lot more fun, for sure. But it ain't "fun" when you lose a monster. Trust me, I've lost my share over the years.
I intend to also give this "jigging thing" a fair shot on my local South Shore mid-depth reefs and various hard bottom pieces, when the tide permits. Additionally, I'll give it a go on the very deep bottom I fish, at the end of the season. Can't use it there all the time, but for that period of time when the tide changes, I think a 2-3oz jig will find bottom out there. Again, we shall see.
Anyway, the best thing you could do is to go to a quality tackle shop, like Trophy Tackle in West Babylon, bring whatever reel you will be using, and give all the candidates a good looking over. You might find the Grappler ML perfectly fine for your needs. It IS a gorgeous stick, with a beautiful moderate bend to it. And don't forget, Shimano makes about 400 other models in that Grappler line, so you will probably find exactly what you are looking for - but you do need to go look. Rod power and action are soooo subjective. . .
"Luck" is when preparation meets opportunity.
I prefer fishing evolution to fishing extinction.
If ya want to clean up the water, ya gotta get the pigs out of the creek.
I prefer fishing evolution to fishing extinction.
If ya want to clean up the water, ya gotta get the pigs out of the creek.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,216 postsSince 2018
I figured since those jigs top out at 2 oz I believe, thought it would be a nice light rod. My Tsunami 2000 is currently homeless,(sold the rod last week) so I'll be searching for a new piece. Obviously no rush with the fluke season over. I'll stick to the conventional setup this year and go from there for Tog. As far as a home for the Tsunami goes, let's see if I've been good this year... The jolly fellow is only two months away ???
Commodore5,031 postsSince 2020
SH27 - the Grappler Type J ML IS a very nice light rod. A great rod. Like I wrote, give it a good look. Also a nice piece would be the now-discontinued Trevala S MH spinner. A hundred smackers less than the new Grapplers, and well worth the money - you might even find one on closeout because they're being replaced in the Shimano line up. I can't speak to the newest Trevala PX sticks, haven't seen them yet.
"Luck" is when preparation meets opportunity.
I prefer fishing evolution to fishing extinction.
If ya want to clean up the water, ya gotta get the pigs out of the creek.
I prefer fishing evolution to fishing extinction.
If ya want to clean up the water, ya gotta get the pigs out of the creek.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,216 postsSince 2018
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Opinions vary, I'd rather use the Newell and I'm not looking
to put either of the two on a CTS. To each his own Captain. 🙂
Im not a newell man..but a CTS man 100% My new CTS tog jigger is boating many big tog's on jigs for the commercials
custom crafted fishing rods and blanks from United Composites UC AR custom blanks ...CTS & CTS AR custom blanks ..Phenix M1 and UMBX...
CaptainOriginal Crew1,185 postsSince 2019
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Im not a newell man..but a CTS man 100% My new CTS tog jigger is boating many big tog's on jigs for the commercials
Would you happen to know what line they're using?
I'm mostly fishing under 8 ounces
It seems a little over gunned for the fishing capt. George is looking to do and I'm also not saying
that I wouldn't want it for that application. A rod like that is to die for. The versatility will be unmatched!
A wide variety of species can be taken in consideration. The reel will play a big role in the decision making.
Captain1,969 postsSince 2020
Might give my fluke jigging set (baitcaster reel) up a stab as an option for light tog set up. Has an Quantum Accurist S3 PT
Commodore5,031 postsSince 2020
I'm looking for recommendations on a tog setup. I don't want to say money's no object, but it has been a while and I deserve it 🙂
I have tried an Avet SX-5.3.1 on a custom rod and liked it. Any suggestions. I'm mostly fishing under 8 ounces, most time less than that.
Thanks
Deckhand8 postsSince 2020
Some relevant info in this thread . . .worth pinning it for a while.
"Luck" is when preparation meets opportunity.
I prefer fishing evolution to fishing extinction.
If ya want to clean up the water, ya gotta get the pigs out of the creek.
I prefer fishing evolution to fishing extinction.
If ya want to clean up the water, ya gotta get the pigs out of the creek.
CaptainOriginal Crew2,216 postsSince 2018
I no longer fish avets ...to many problems...The little jigging master is really nice ...I now fish low profile reels on thin light rods ...Abu & Daiwa make some nice LP reels I just upgrade the handle to the Abu power handle...
A abu garcia on a CTS is really hard to beat...
thanks
MateOriginal Crew241 postsSince 2019
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Do tell.. what actually is a Capt Richie CTS jigger?
my selection is very deep ..all the blanks are pencil thin & built come in under 7oz..most come in just over 6oz..
custom crafted fishing rods and blanks from United Composites UC AR custom blanks ...CTS & CTS AR custom blanks ..Phenix M1 and UMBX...
CaptainOriginal Crew1,185 postsSince 2019
Humm I do have several ..custom design for different jig weights & different lower end power...I have a 3/4 to 2oz tip with a 40lb back end & a 2 to 4 oz tip with a 20lb back end ,,.every tip has three to four back ends ,,I have about a dozen different blanks ..to match jig to back end power... for here your not catching 10 plus pound fish ..but your still using a 2oz jig..so you dont need the heavy back end ..but up north & down south you do.... i also have different tapers & actions in each line class.....mod/fast , moderate & parabolic ..slow pitch , jig & bait
my selection is very deep ..all the blanks are pencil thin & built come in under 7oz..most come in just over 6oz..
I will shoot you a PM
MateOriginal Crew241 postsSince 2019
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Thanks for all the info, much appreciated. I didn’t realize this was a much older thread.
I will shoot you a PM
My CTS line is deep and 90% of the CTS blanks I sell are custom design...they come mod/fast , moderate . parabolic & slow pitch..
Yes a couple of the blank were designed for jigging blackfish ..But they also work very well as fluke jiggers too...I designed jiggers for lure weight & fish size ..I have blanks that have a 3/4 to 2 oz tip in several different back ends for different size fish...also in different actions & tapers ...It's about having fun catching fish ..one thing I hate is having a rod to heavy for what Im catching...takes all the fun out of fishing...you need to come & see for yourself ..
I also have a guy in Brooklyn building on my blanks ..he's killing it .If you cant make it out to me & if its easier for you ..I will PM you his #..
custom crafted fishing rods and blanks from United Composites UC AR custom blanks ...CTS & CTS AR custom blanks ..Phenix M1 and UMBX...
CaptainOriginal Crew1,185 postsSince 2019
everything I build is to order..I'm to busy to pre build rods & they wouldn't be custom if I did...
My CTS line is deep and 90% of the CTS blanks I sell are custom design...they come mod/fast , moderate . parabolic & slow pitch..
Yes a couple of the blank were designed for jigging blackfish ..But they also work very well as fluke jiggers too...I designed jiggers for lure weight & fish size ..I have blanks that have a 3/4 to 2 oz tip in several different back ends for different size fish...also in different actions & tapers ...It's about having fun catching fish
MateOriginal Crew241 postsSince 2019
Which LPAbu do you prefer?
thanks
I don't have any low profile reels (yet!) but my buddies have been using Abu Revo and Daiwa Lexa. I just watched a review on the Penn Fathoms and was impressed.
George R. Scocca
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CommodoreOriginal Crew5,174 postsSince 2018
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I really like the concept 13 A 5:4:1 gears ..makes 22lb of drag I think ,,very solid reel and at $180 good deal
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CaptainOriginal Crew1,185 postsSince 2019
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