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Rick67
Rick67FREE2024#5061

Good God. There's actually a market for this kind of thing?

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[HEADING=2]Ringleader of global monkey torture network, 'The Torture King', is charged[/HEADING]

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[SIZE=1]"Torture King" Michael Macartney - pictured at his home in Virginia - is facing up to five years in prison on animal abuse charges [Joel Gunter/BBC][/SIZE]

A ringleader in a global monkey torture network exposed by the BBC has been charged by US federal prosecutors.

Michael Macartney, 50, who went by the alias "Torture King", was charged in Virginia with conspiracy to create and distribute animal-crushing videos.

Mr Macartney was one of three key distributors identified by the BBC Eye team during a year-long investigation into sadistic monkey torture groups.

Two women have also been charged in the UK following the investigation.

Mr Macartney, a former motorcycle gang member who previously spent time in prison, ran several chat groups for monkey torture enthusiasts from around the world on the encrypted messaging app Telegram.

The groups were used to share ideas for custom-made torture videos, such as setting live monkeys on fire, injuring them with tools and even putting one in a blender.

The ideas were then sent, along with payments, to video-makers in Indonesia who carried them out, sometimes killing the baby long-tailed macaque monkeys in the process.

According to charging documents, Mr Macartney, who lives in the US state of Virginia, is accused by prosecutors of collecting funds from his chat groups and distributing videos depicting the "torture, murder, and sexually sadistic mutilation of animals, specifically juvenile and adult monkeys".

Mr Macartney has cooperated with investigators from the Department of Homeland Security and agreed to plead guilty to conspiracy charges. He will formally make a plea later this month and is facing up to five years in prison.

Speaking to the BBC Eye investigations team last year, Mr Macartney confessed to his role in the torture network, describing himself as the "king of this demented world".

"I was the man," he said. "You want to see monkeys get messed up? I could bring it to you."

Mr Macartney also described the moment he joined his first Telegram monkey group.

"They had a poll set up," he said. "Do you want a hammer involved? Do you want pliers involved? Do you want a screwdriver?"

The resulting videos were "the most grotesque thing I have ever seen", Mr Macartney said, and yet he went on to become a key player in the monkey torture groups.

The BBC understands that more charges are expected to follow soon for other key players in the monkey torture network. At least 20 people were placed under investigation last year globally, following the BBC's investigation.

Three participants have already been charged in the US, including Mr Macartney. Two torturers were arrested and jailed in Indonesia, and three women have been arrested in the UK, two of whom have been charged.

Holly LeGresley, 37, of Kidderminster and Adriana Orme, 55, of Upton-upon Severn were charged last month with publishing an obscene article and causing unnecessary suffering to a protected animal.

Ms LeGresley and Ms Orme were high-profile members of the online torture groups. Ms LeGresley, who went by the screen name "The Immolator", was a moderator in a group run by Mr Macartney and was involved in commissioning some of the most extreme videos.

In the US, two others have been charged with the same counts as Mr Macartney.

David Christopher Noble, 48, a former US Air Force officer who was previously court-martialed and dismissed from the military, and Nicole Devilbiss, 35. They are both facing up to five years in prison.

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/ringleader-global-monkey-torture-network-102531745.html[/URL]

:mad:

What do you think they do to animals in scientific experimentation?

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wader
waderFREE2024#5062

What do you think they do to animals in scientific experimentation?

they don't stick live animals in blenders - film it & then sell it for profit - what the fuck is wrong with people who do this & for the people that get off watching it?
:rolleyes:

5 years in prison for those bastards is WAY too short.

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.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
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Rick67
Rick67FREE2024#5063

they don't stick live animals in blenders - film it & then sell it for profit - what the fuck is wrong with people who do this & for the people that get off watching it?
:rolleyes:

5 years in prison for those bastards is WAY too short.

Really? Think the blender would be more humane but what do I know. You should bring that question up to one who has experimented with them and then judge. Either way, either side will tell you it was for the science. They would be both right in saying it.

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Avenger
Avengernoreaster.com2024#5064

What do you think they do to animals in scientific experimentation?

One would hope they don't gratuitously hurt them to satisfy some sociopathic depravity.

There should be a huge difference between unfortunately necessary advancement of science and sadism.

Chrome warns this may be a phishing site. Well, Duh,... Stupid jerks can't even spell fishing right.
CaptainOriginal Crew3,431 postsSince 2019
wader
waderFREE2024#5065

One would hope they don't gratuitously hurt them to satisfy some sociopathic depravity.

There should be a huge difference between unfortunately necessary advancement of science and sadism.

"Well, it's alright.
.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
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jpd
jpdMODnoreaster.com2024#5066

Actually not as bad as it sounds....he wasn't ambushed

[URL unfurl="true"]https://nypost.com/2024/04/05/world-news/canadian-resident-bitten-by-toilet-rat-hospitalized-with-organ-failure-due-to-bacterial-infection/[/URL]

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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2024#5067

One would hope they don't gratuitously hurt them to satisfy some sociopathic depravity.

Bless me father for I have sinned...

I have killed hundreds of male rats by quickly breaking their necks to harvest the epidydimal fat pads, that'll be rat ball fat, honest, to understand the chemistry of ATP-citrate lyase for my dissertation.

I have killed a couple of hundred chicks by cutting off their heads with a large pair of scissors, to harvest the parasites I infected with them with, L. constantae and P. hegneri, for studies on the lipid chemistry of the parasites for my senior undergraduate thesis.

I killed a lactating rabbit by using a bunny guillotine so I could purify cAMP-dependent protein kinase from the mammary glands, also part of my dissertation.

My minions, under my direct command, have killed thousands of mice, many rabbits, a few goats, and some Western Pennsylvanian Groundhogs to harvest antibodies and/or antigens for the development and manufacture of immunoassays that have been used on most of us, and are still in use today.

I have pithed many a frog for biology labs, along with decapitating a snapping turtle for a heart function lab.

And I personally administered the coup de grace of a heart stopping giant intravenous bolus of air to 3 anesthetized dogs at the conclusion of our three physiology labs in graduate school.

All of the above we done with the outmost respect for the animals involved.

I'm pretty sure that if my personalized version of hell is NOT casting 10 ft short of a school of 40lb+ bass for eternity, it will probably involve castrated Zombie rats getting their revenge on me...

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wader
waderFREE2024#5068

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/democrats-introduce-bill-name-miami-184833501.html[/URL]

:LOL:

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.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
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Rick67
Rick67FREE2024#5069

One would hope they don't gratuitously hurt them to satisfy some sociopathic depravity.

There should be a huge difference between unfortunately necessary advancement of science and sadism.

We are not a higher species. We sin, ask for forgiveness, then do it again. Not only is your first sentence correct accept for the word don’t. The get a high from it and do it over and over with glee. 😍 sums it up.

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Yellow Eyed Devils.
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wader
waderFREE2024#5070

Ok..

So we've had a Pandemic, Wildfires, Bird Flu Outbreak, 2 Raging Wars, Bridge/Ship Collison & Collapse. There can't be anything else coming - right?

But Wait! There's More!!!

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/billions-cicadas-emerge-us-rare-140840101.html[/URL]

WTF?!?!???

"Well, it's alright.
.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
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Avenger
Avengernoreaster.com2024#5071

Ok..

So we've had a Pandemic, Wildfires, Bird Flu Outbreak, 2 Raging Wars, Bridge/Ship Collison & Collapse. There can't be anything else coming - right?

But Wait! There's More!!!

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/billions-cicadas-emerge-us-rare-140840101.html[/URL]

WTF?!?!???

Ran out of locusts.

Chrome warns this may be a phishing site. Well, Duh,... Stupid jerks can't even spell fishing right.
CaptainOriginal Crew3,431 postsSince 2019
jpd
jpdMODnoreaster.com2024#5072

Ran out of locusts.

Forgot the earthquakes too

A lawyer with his briefcase can steal more than a hundred men with guns- Mario Puzo
CommodoreOriginal Crew9,876 postsSince 2018
wader
waderFREE2024#5073

WTF?!???

has the entire Party lost it's collective mind? Every day I read something that seems to indicate that.
:rolleyes:

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/maine-gop-lawmaker-says-lewiston-204742733.html[/URL]

"Well, it's alright.
.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2024#5074

At least they got their hands slapped...

[HEADING=2][SIZE=7]House censures Republican lawmakers who said Lewiston shooting was God’s response to abortion expansion[/SIZE][/HEADING]
House Speaker Rachel Talbot Ross requires Reps. Michael Lemelin and Shelley Rudnicki to read a formal apology on the House floor before restoring their right to speak during floor debates.

Two Republican lawmakers in the Maine House were censured Thursday for saying that the mass shooting in Lewiston and recent storms were God’s punishment for last year’s expansion of abortion and other “immoral” laws passed by the Democrat-controlled Legislature.

The House voted unanimously to censure Rep. Michael Lemelin, R-Chelsea, and Rep. Shelley Rudnicki, R-Fairfield, after Lemelin drew a connection between [the Oct. 25 mass shooting]('https://www.pressherald.com/complete-coverage-lewiston-mass-shootings/') that killed 18 people and injured 13 others and a new law expanding access to abortion, which took effect the same day.

Lemelin and Rudnicki were not allowed to participate in the vote. They were called to stand in front of House Speaker Rachel Talbot Ross, D-Portland. Lemelin stood with his hands in his pockets while she read the censure and were then escorted back to their seats by the sergeant-at-arms.

Talbot Ross had told Lemelin and Rudnicki earlier that they would need to issue a formal apology on the House floor before they would be allowed to speak on business because they violated the rules.

The speaker said their comments “are deserving of the most serious consequences this body can deliver.”

“To make satisfaction, you must issue a formal apology, which you will read on the House floor,” Talbot Ross said in a letter to each representative Thursday morning. “You must accept sole and full responsibility for the incident and publicly apologize to your constituents, the victims and families of the Lewiston tragedy, the greater Lewiston community, and the people of Maine.”

Both lawmakers read the same, short statement accepting responsibility and apologizing to the House and the people connected to the tragedy:

“I accept full responsibility for my remarks on the House floor on the evening of April 10, 2024. I publicly apologize for my colleagues in the House, the people connected to the horrible events of Oct. 25 and the state of Maine.”

Lemelin left the chambers immediately afterward.

[During a floor debate Wednesday,]('https://www.pressherald.com/2024/04/10/maine-house-advances-abortion-gender-care-shield-law-after-heated-debate/') Lemelin said that God “draws a line in the sand and when we cross that line there’s consequences” to immoral activity.

“Meditate on this, Madam Speaker,” Lemelin said. “When (L.D.) 1619 passed and went into law on Oct. 25, you told God life doesn’t matter. … God heard you and the horrible events on Oct. 25 happened.”

Lemelin was ruled out of order by Talbot Ross for impugning the character of other members. But that didn’t stop Rudnicki from chiming in.

“I just want to stand and say that I agree with Rep. Lemelin and everything he said,” Rudnicki said.

The comments, made at the end of a heated floor debate, drew swift condemnation by House Democrats and Lewiston Mayor Carl Sheline.

“That is absolutely out of order, not germane to the bill and absolutely offensive,” House Majority Leader Mo Terry, D-Gorham, protested.

“The statements made by Representatives Lemelin and Rudnicki are completely outside the standards for political behavior and discourse. Maine deserves better,” Sheline said Thursday.

Assistant House Majority Leader Kristen Cloutier, D-Lewiston, blasted the Republicans in a written statement late Wednesday night, calling Lemelin’s remarks and Rudnicki’s endorsement “reprehensible,” saying that they should be “universally condemned by anyone who has even an ounce of basic human decency.”

“We are dismayed by this stunning lack of respect, deeply troubling absence of empathy and infuriating disregard for the victims, their families and everyone in our community whose hearts remain shattered by this horrific act of senseless violence,” Cloutier said.

Assistant Minority Leader Amy Arata, R-New Gloucester, said Thursday afternoon that the statements “do not reflect the opinion of the Republican Party.”

She declined to elaborate, saying that her vote on the censure motion should speak for itself.

House Minority Leader Billy Bob Faulkingham, R-Winter Harbor, did not respond to questions about Lemelin’s comments Thursday morning.

REPUBLICANS ALSO OFFENDED

Lemelin was called out by several fellow Republicans in the House.

Rep. Rachel Henderson, R-Rumford, called Lemelin’s statements “reprehensible” and “heresy,” in an emotional floor speech.

“Although it’s not my place, I apologize to every member who is there and heard that and took offense,” Henderson said. “I’m proud of where I stand. I’m proud of the positions that I take, but tonight I am not proud to be a Republican. I am not proud to have an ‘R’ in front of my name.”

“Nowhere in the Bible do I see where the word of God is to be used as a weapon against people or where we are told to speak on behalf of God to express his wrath to the people. … Those statements are reprehensible and ones that I do not support and I do not get behind,” she said.

Rep. Nathan Carlow, R-Buxton, said he agreed with Henderson and commended her for her “bravery and faith.”

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AdmiralOriginal Crew21,717 postsSince 2018
wader
waderFREE2024#5075

what the.............

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/woman-fails-show-prison-then-175654526.html[/URL]

"Well, it's alright.
.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
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Rick67
Rick67FREE2024#5076

At least they got their hands slapped...

[HEADING=2][SIZE=7]House censures Republican lawmakers who said Lewiston shooting was God’s response to abortion expansion[/SIZE][/HEADING]
House Speaker Rachel Talbot Ross requires Reps. Michael Lemelin and Shelley Rudnicki to read a formal apology on the House floor before restoring their right to speak during floor debates.

Two Republican lawmakers in the Maine House were censured Thursday for saying that the mass shooting in Lewiston and recent storms were God’s punishment for last year’s expansion of abortion and other “immoral” laws passed by the Democrat-controlled Legislature.

The House voted unanimously to censure Rep. Michael Lemelin, R-Chelsea, and Rep. Shelley Rudnicki, R-Fairfield, after Lemelin drew a connection between [the Oct. 25 mass shooting]('https://www.pressherald.com/complete-coverage-lewiston-mass-shootings/') that killed 18 people and injured 13 others and a new law expanding access to abortion, which took effect the same day.

Lemelin and Rudnicki were not allowed to participate in the vote. They were called to stand in front of House Speaker Rachel Talbot Ross, D-Portland. Lemelin stood with his hands in his pockets while she read the censure and were then escorted back to their seats by the sergeant-at-arms.

Talbot Ross had told Lemelin and Rudnicki earlier that they would need to issue a formal apology on the House floor before they would be allowed to speak on business because they violated the rules.

The speaker said their comments “are deserving of the most serious consequences this body can deliver.”

“To make satisfaction, you must issue a formal apology, which you will read on the House floor,” Talbot Ross said in a letter to each representative Thursday morning. “You must accept sole and full responsibility for the incident and publicly apologize to your constituents, the victims and families of the Lewiston tragedy, the greater Lewiston community, and the people of Maine.”

Both lawmakers read the same, short statement accepting responsibility and apologizing to the House and the people connected to the tragedy:

“I accept full responsibility for my remarks on the House floor on the evening of April 10, 2024. I publicly apologize for my colleagues in the House, the people connected to the horrible events of Oct. 25 and the state of Maine.”

Lemelin left the chambers immediately afterward.

[During a floor debate Wednesday,]('https://www.pressherald.com/2024/04/10/maine-house-advances-abortion-gender-care-shield-law-after-heated-debate/') Lemelin said that God “draws a line in the sand and when we cross that line there’s consequences” to immoral activity.

“Meditate on this, Madam Speaker,” Lemelin said. “When (L.D.) 1619 passed and went into law on Oct. 25, you told God life doesn’t matter. … God heard you and the horrible events on Oct. 25 happened.”

Lemelin was ruled out of order by Talbot Ross for impugning the character of other members. But that didn’t stop Rudnicki from chiming in.

“I just want to stand and say that I agree with Rep. Lemelin and everything he said,” Rudnicki said.

The comments, made at the end of a heated floor debate, drew swift condemnation by House Democrats and Lewiston Mayor Carl Sheline.

“That is absolutely out of order, not germane to the bill and absolutely offensive,” House Majority Leader Mo Terry, D-Gorham, protested.

“The statements made by Representatives Lemelin and Rudnicki are completely outside the standards for political behavior and discourse. Maine deserves better,” Sheline said Thursday.

Assistant House Majority Leader Kristen Cloutier, D-Lewiston, blasted the Republicans in a written statement late Wednesday night, calling Lemelin’s remarks and Rudnicki’s endorsement “reprehensible,” saying that they should be “universally condemned by anyone who has even an ounce of basic human decency.”

“We are dismayed by this stunning lack of respect, deeply troubling absence of empathy and infuriating disregard for the victims, their families and everyone in our community whose hearts remain shattered by this horrific act of senseless violence,” Cloutier said.

Assistant Minority Leader Amy Arata, R-New Gloucester, said Thursday afternoon that the statements “do not reflect the opinion of the Republican Party.”

She declined to elaborate, saying that her vote on the censure motion should speak for itself.

House Minority Leader Billy Bob Faulkingham, R-Winter Harbor, did not respond to questions about Lemelin’s comments Thursday morning.

REPUBLICANS ALSO OFFENDED

Lemelin was called out by several fellow Republicans in the House.

Rep. Rachel Henderson, R-Rumford, called Lemelin’s statements “reprehensible” and “heresy,” in an emotional floor speech.

“Although it’s not my place, I apologize to every member who is there and heard that and took offense,” Henderson said. “I’m proud of where I stand. I’m proud of the positions that I take, but tonight I am not proud to be a Republican. I am not proud to have an ‘R’ in front of my name.”

“Nowhere in the Bible do I see where the word of God is to be used as a weapon against people or where we are told to speak on behalf of God to express his wrath to the people. … Those statements are reprehensible and ones that I do not support and I do not get behind,” she said.

Rep. Nathan Carlow, R-Buxton, said he agreed with Henderson and commended her for her “bravery and faith.”

So they can’t have an opinion if it butt hurts another? How ironic.
That guy that did the shooting was losing his mind for how long? Everyone around him was concerned. Authorities were notified and nothing was done. Why? I’ll tell you why, because it’s not politically correct to hurt another’s feelings.

Funny though, when you all wished a winter of death on those not willing to be part of an experiment, making them lose their jobs, making them eat outside. Feelings didn’t seem to matter then. Hmmmm

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wader
waderFREE2024#5077

say what?

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/search-continues-maine-officer-charged-113018999.html[/URL]

"Well, it's alright.
.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
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wader
waderFREE2024#5078

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/brandi-carlile-says-jimmy-buffett-195500578.html[/URL]

"Well, it's alright.
.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
AdmiralOriginal Crew20,900 postsSince 2018
wader
waderFREE2024#5080

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/underwater-ufos-display-capability-jeopardizes-080007342.html[/URL]

"Well, it's alright.
.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
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