Coronavirus

Meanwhile there are 12 people playing volleyball at Marjorie Post Park in Matzohpizza and a larger group gathered together in a Seaford LIRR parking lot. Not a mask in sight. will all the demonstratons and marches cause a spike ? Mothers Day didn't and there were parties all over here.

In the end it’s all going to come down to you
What your comfortable with, and the risk that you are willing to accept to live a normal life .
Same as with the rest of life

do you take precautions during flu season?
When meeting women ( if your single)
You do realize that prostitution is still a huge industry regardless of the risk
Drug use and alcohol abuse abound
Ppl still drive drunk and smoke cigarette , cigars , pot and crack

Only you can answer what type of life you’re going to enjoy
Not the govt,

most ppl have already started returning to their lives

will you ?

Married 40 years this September. Never smoked, never did drugs, no arrests, no prostitutes, and hardly drink at all since 1975 or so. Don't take any precautions during flu season except for getting the shot, but this china virus is NOT the flu. While I would hate to cancel our scheduled upstate road trip at the end of September, compromising reaching age 70 and beyond next year isn't something I am willing to do. Just dropped off birthday stuff for my son's girlfriend, not a hug or handshake exchanged. Oh well, going to swim some laps and mull the responses over.

I didn’t say you did pequa1
Merely that ppl do
And have for centuries

only you can decide your level of comfort and your willingness to do things

That’s simply the way it’s going to be

not because I say so
Because history has proven it
With drugs
With sex
With prohibition
With smoking and so it will be with covid and moving forward with our lives
Ppl will make their own conscious decisions and a great many have already decided

look at the protesters
Look at the folks at that lake of the ozarks
Just look around you at this moment in time
It’s already happening and there no way to stop it

your just going to have to do what you feel is right

I’m already back to shaking hands With ppl
And hugging relatives if they are

I’ll be running the boat , and dinning out
As those things open , shopping in stores and taking in person golf lessons as those things get back to nor
Playing golf and shaking hands with my playing partners
Simply because that’s the way life is meant to be lived

they only way there will ever be a new normal is if ppl want a new normal , my bet is they are not going to accept this new normal regardless of the risk , will some sure , will it take hold I don’t think so
I think some I’m govt will try and make it stick and the harder the

I simply refuse to live my life in fear or put it on hold to await a vaccine that may never come or be effective if it does

I don’t blame you for doing what you think is best for you , I just don’t agree that the vast majority of society will go along from here on out

Lost summer socially ?
Just wondered whether or when we will be able to forget about the masks and social distancing. Kayaking is of course not a "problem" but will I ever get to share my pool and barbecue this summer with my inlaws or will my buddy and I go out on each other's boats ? When we bicycle or walk in the local park I carry a mask but rarely have to put it on. We have hotel reservations on the Canadian side, at Alexandria Bay, Cooperstown etc for the last of September, first week of October. Any bets as to whether the border will be open? I can't imagine taking vacation photos of each other masked up. We have taken this quite seriously, gloves and masks for the grocery store or takeout, and my pool supplies all came on the bbt. OTOH, I don't know anyone who died, although several acquaintances got pretty sick.

Kind of like you financial portfolio; it's all a matter of what level of risk you are comfortable with, realizing that there are those who will not respect you by wearing a mask and staying 6' away. Aye, there's the rub.

Now that things are opening up, many folks figure life is back to the pre-pandemic normal, not back to the new normal of masks and social distancing. New spikes are beginning to show as expected based on the "Stupid Human" tricks we've been seeing on TV including that Lake of the Ozarks debacle.

You take play your cards and takes your chances. Myself, I've never been a fan of going to the Casino...

If I were still working this whole thing would absolutely kill me. I did background investigations for Uncle and probably shook the hands of a dozen people daily. (No hugs, that would be unseemly.) One year maybe 2007 or so they told us not to shake hands because of some flu. I rolled my eyes and on the way out of the meeting recall saying no effing way. For me, the older you get, the longer you want to live. My new kayak is just two years old !

Guess we’re going to see how this plays out
But the writings been on the wall for a while

Ppl are for better of worse making their own choices

several bars and restaurant's are working underground ( and they are very busy )
No ones asked me to leave a store because I don’t wear a mask ( I will happily leave if confronted by the shop keeper )
No other customer has even blinked

It May come back, I’m not even going to argue that point
end of the day I don’t think the public will continue on the path laid out by the scientist or govt regardless
It’s simply goes against human nature , and too many ppl don’t believe the juice is worth the squeeze

If I were still working this whole thing would absolutely kill me. I did background investigations for Uncle and probably shook the hands of a dozen people daily. (No hugs, that would be unseemly.) One year maybe 2007 or so they told us not to shake hands because of some flu. I rolled my eyes and on the way out of the meeting recall saying no effing way. For me, the older you get, the longer you want to live. My new kayak is just two years old !

similar boat for me Mr. P..................

Many of the restaurants here have gone to outdoor seating @50% capacity - I'm uncomfortable taking part even though I really miss the socializing.
Never got a flu shot - never had the flu. Even though I was sharing a house with two people who would get it (ex wife & daughter). Even as a kid living with my parents & 3 brothers all of who would come down with the flu from time to time. Father always said Medical Science should be doing a work up on my blood.

Actually I never really get sick at all. Haven't had the common cold in like 20 years. Don't plan on ever getting a flu shot.

However....................
When/if they ever come up with a CORVID vaccine - I do plan on getting that. Like you I also have the age thing to deal with @ 68.

Until I see the number of cases start dropping here or a vaccine is available - I will forgo visiting restaurants for things other then take out. Luckily I'm retired & don't have that dilemma to deal with.

If I were still working this whole thing would absolutely kill me. I did background investigations for Uncle and probably shook the hands of a dozen people daily. (No hugs, that would be unseemly.) One year maybe 2007 or so they told us not to shake hands because of some flu. I rolled my eyes and on the way out of the meeting recall saying no effing way. For me, the older you get, the longer you want to live. My new kayak is just two years old !

I don’t disagree with that to a point in the 65/70 year age group I here that being said quite a bit

In the under 60 group hardly at all and amongst my parents friends and my friends parents 78 to 85 the generally feeling I get is enough of this crap we’re not giving up our family and friends for this bullshit

I’m not saying right or wrong
Just what Im getting from within my circle

Kind of like you financial portfolio; it's all a matter of what level of risk you are comfortable with, realizing that there are those who will not respect you by wearing a mask and staying 6' away. Aye, there's the rub.

Now that things are opening up, many folks figure life is back to the pre-pandemic normal, not back to the new normal of masks and social distancing. New spikes are beginning to show as expected based on the "Stupid Human" tricks we've been seeing on TV including that Lake of the Ozarks debacle.

You take play your cards and takes your chances. Myself, I've never been a fan of going to the Casino...

I thought no one caught the china flu as a result of attending the Lake of the Ozarks "pool party?"

I don’t disagree with that to a point in the 65/70 year age group I here that being said quite a bit

In the under 60 group hardly at all and amongst my parents friends and my friends parents 78 to 85 the generally feeling I get is enough of this crap we’re not giving up our family and friends for this bullshit

I’m not saying right or wrong
Just what Im getting from within my circle

No surprises there. Maybe in 10 years I will feel the same way, that not enough years are left to leave out all the things we enjoy most. Now, Wader and I obviously want to make those ten plus years and can make these small sacrifices to do so. It is amazing that when one is "out and about" one sees people driving with the mask on, (won't do that even though R7 will scold me that by taking it on and off I could inhale one of those pesky viruses) that some families are obviously letting their kids play all over the neighborhood without masks, and that I have yet to see anyone at the boat ramp wearing one, me included when I put in the yak. Mowed the lawn earlier and certainly wouldn't wear one then either. With eyeglasses, small ears, and the old style hearing aids, I can only comfortably use a mask with elastic. Put simply its just a pita to wear the other kind and all I wear at the grocery store is one of those dust masks you wear when sanding. I told the wife that if we have to wear masks at the Canadian falls I am not going.

The part that gets me the most right now
Is most business are going through the motions to satisfy appearances

Just today I went to the auto part store for a Belt for a gen set
Plex glass at the registers limited entry ( but it was pretty lite)

I gave the guy the belt he checks says they don’t have it
I’m mask less

I say you’ve got it but need to measure it out don’t do it my the numbers on the belt

He tells me no problem come in the back behind the counter to see if I can find it

So much for the glass partition
Just up for appearances

No surprises there. Maybe in 10 years I will feel the same way, that not enough years are left to leave out all the things we enjoy most. Now, Wader and I obviously want to make those ten plus years and can make these small sacrifices to do so. It is amazing that when one is "out and about" one sees people driving with the mask on, (won't do that even though R7 will scold me that by taking it on and off I could inhale one of those pesky viruses) that some families are obviously letting their kids play all over the neighborhood without masks, and that I have yet to see anyone at the boat ramp wearing one, me included when I put in the yak. Mowed the lawn earlier and certainly wouldn't wear one then either. With eyeglasses, small ears, and the old style hearing aids, I can only comfortably use a mask with elastic. Put simply its just a pita to wear the other kind and all I wear at the grocery store is one of those dust masks you wear when sanding. I told the wife that if we have to wear masks at the Canadian falls I am not going.

I don't wear the mask unless I'm going into a closed place (store or inside pick up at a restaurant). Which I was doing before the Governor mandated all had to wear masks when in a public space about 2 weeks ago. Merchants have that posted on the doors & will not allow anyone in not wearing one. If they forgot it at home - merchant will provide them with one. If they refuse one - merchant will not sell to them & ask them to leave.

In the car.? No. There's no real reason to. You're the only on in there.
Outside in the yard working about? No.
Taking the dog for a walk? No.

Basically if I'm not going to becoming in contact with anyone - I go "commando" as far as the mask is concerned.

Each vehicle I own has:
[LIST]
[*]a mask
[*]container of disinfectant wipes (to wipe down anything on the car I may have touched after leaving a store)
[*]bottle of hand sanitizer
[*]spray bottle of Hydrogen Peroxide (for spraying down the mask - inside & out) when I take it off
[/LIST]
I will continue to practice like the above - until someone can tell me its gone away & has numbers support that or a vaccine becomes available.

Oh and they had the belt
I found it

I thought no one caught the china flu as a result of attending the Lake of the Ozarks "pool party?"

No one has ever caught the China Flu, no such disease.

If you're referring to COVID-19, not yet, give it another week or so. The LoO Pool Party is a poster child for "Stupid Human Tricks". These demonstrations may also fuel another surge.

While a spike would verify my taking precautions it would be really nice if neither the rioting or the pool party results in one

While a spike would verify my taking precautions it would be really nice if neither the rioting or the pool party results in one

Never hurts to err on the side of caution...

Not yet, give it another week or so. The LoO Pool Party is a poster child for "Stupid Human Tricks". These demonstrations may also fuel another surge.

With all the years no decades of stupid humans making conscious decisions to ignore both sound advice and science , why would you think they would start now

Life’s more than simply science or in truth economics it’s more than even the two of them combined . Free will and human emotion both get added into the mix .

Pequa and wadder have in their minds what they need to do based on where they are in life

I have mine being a bit younger and leaning heavily on the economic points and my fatigue of both scientific and governmental intrusion into my life

You Dom have your bases on your extensive scientific background and your trust in that

And while I don’t think we have many 80 plus year olds I’ll toss my parents in as they and In fact most of my super senior condo of very well educated very experienced folks simply say at 80 plus enough is enough based on where they are in life. They aren’t willing to do this any longer .

Simply leaning on the science is a poor strategy no matter how right the science is

If it was no one would smoke
Drink or do drugs and we all know how that’s worked out
Ppl in Africa wouldn’t have unprotected sex and aids wouldn’t be rife with aids decades later
No one would drink and drive
Or go to work with the flu
Sciences says it’s all bad for us and it is

Doesn’t make a lick of difference

How many months or years do we err on the side of caution

Asking for a friend