Ben - guess you missed this part:
"The rise in cases is not just the result of more testing. Hospitalizations are also skyrocketing."
Saw that Larry. More of my opinion then anything else.
On our way to herd immunity.....Maine stands out a bit
Herd immunity needs at least 60% infected and recovered, we're miles away from that, and most immunologists would rather see > 75%...
Maine rise is actually an artifact of increased testing; we've really ramped it up here. If you look at our "Positivity Rate" the percent of folks tested that are positive, it's been 3% or below for the last couple of weeks. That's very low. Someplace today at a 20+% positivity rate, I just can't remember, but when I saw that on the news, it was an immediate 'Holy CRAP!!" We really need to look at the testing data as the Positivity Rate, along with the hospitalization numbers. Those have started to skyrocket too.
Herd immunity needs at least 60% infected and recovered, we're miles away from that .......
How do we know we're miles away from that? AFAIK there is a percentage of asymptomatic cases and those whose symptoms are so mild they don't know they had it. Right now I don't believe they have any idea what those numbers actually are.
How do we know we're miles away from that? AFAIK there is a percentage of asymptomatic cases and those whose symptoms are so mild they don't know they had it. Right now I don't believe they have any idea what those numbers actually are.
They've been running stats with the Antibody Tests that are run at reference labs, which have to report results to state CDCs. Once again, these are estimations because it's not population-wide. I am in agreement that the number of cases is probably grossly understated. Even so, we're far, far away from herd immunity.
Let's do some quick math here. The Population of NY State is 19.45 million, let's call it 20 million. The number of diagnosed COVID-19 cases reported by the NYS CDC as of June 30 was 212, 774, which let's call 200K, so that's only 1% of the population. Even if the number of diagnosed cases is off by 50x, which would mean 2 million folks have been infected and recovered, that's only 10% of the population, nowhere close to herd immunity.
Bottom line, with a population of 20 million people, 16 million NYers would have to had and recovered a Coronavirus infection to reach that 60% number. Don't forget that many in the business, aren't comfortable with that 60% number as it is very low. The USDA doesn't declare a dairy herd under "Herd Immunity" until over 95% of the herd has either been vaccinated or has antibodies for the disease.
Wonderful
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Saw this on line yesterday, & in today's Newsday. College students in Tuscaloose Alabama have been having Covid-19 parties. They pay a fee to attend & also invite persons who are known to be infected, they attend for free. After the party the first student to have a positive test wins the money. Don't judge them to harshly, after all they are the future leaders of this Counrty.
John
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it's never gonna end -- is it?
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it's never gonna end -- is it?
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It will, but not till after the election.
And after we stop living in fear
it ends when we end it
I’ve only beensaying that for 3 months or more
and apparently you've been wrong for 3 months or more now
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