Coronavirus

Not that it means anything, but that is my opinion/conclusion as well. (y)

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Who is really the Jerkoff!

The difference in the death rate is amazing,why?
California- 8549
Florida- 6000
Texas-5000
NY - 32000
All have similar number of total cases..

It has not been allowed to run wild, there was purposeful interdictions.

You can believe what you want, but from an epidemiological perspective, there were active actions taken by the very person that many vilified for doing it.

So you feel NY wasn't "late to the game" ...... and that there were no cases of covid in NY until they started testing?

Joke of the Day - we get our temperatures taken every day as a requirement to enter the campus.
Mine was measured at 94.1 this morning, it was already 83 degrees out and I had max A/C blowing on my face for the 20 minute ride in.

Sometimes I think some of this stuff is to give us a false sense of security.

Please define "Late to the game?" Just what are you referring to when you say "Game?"

All I'm saying is that the data are not representative of an infection without any purposeful interdiction so you can't make a comment like, "These data are what the natural course of a COVID-19 epidemic look like."

I was referring to Tony's description where he used the word game. To me I believe he was referring to the fact that NY was already deep into the pandemic before they started testing. The data about number of cases came after the virus was already established in NY. It wasn't that it was allowed to run wild, its just that purposeful interdictions were established after it was already running wild. That is my opinion based on what has occurred. Again, I am not trying to state facts, just my conclusions based on what has occured.

Looks like it was tottaly wild to me
Strait up fairly straight down

no flattening until after it ran it course

sure it could have gone up higher
But the point is

it doesn’t representa flattening
We’re dragging this out her in ny for no good reason

even after June 8th even after protest
Even with a large percentage of ppl not adhering to and protocols on distance or mask wearing
And I mean a large large percentage

we’re still seeing marked decline

not because of anything we’ve done but simply because we were late to the game and it simply ran its course

You use a couple statistical numbers without any factual data to represent your claims. Basically your posts are only your opinion and clearly you are the minority. If you want to say things like "a large percentage of ppl not...." show us the data. Till then I'm guessing you live near the same deniers as yourself and its not indicative of the general population. But believe what you will.

The difference in the death rate is amazing,why?
California- 8549
Florida- 6000
Texas-5000
NY - 32000
All have similar number of total cases..

Maybe because it started in NY and we really didn't have the knowledge to treat people it was more trial and error. Now that the other states are seeing increases in cases we can treat them more effectively. Does that work for you?

Can anyone tell me what this effective treatment breakthrough is? Other states are seeing more cases but they're not dying.
Unfortunately NYS decided that a nursing home patient that died in a hospital does not count towards the nursing home Covid death total - so we'll never know truly the cost of the trial and error approach.

Joke of the Day - we get our temperatures taken every day as a requirement to enter the campus.
Mine was measured at 94.1 this morning, it was already 83 degrees out and I had max A/C blowing on my face for the 20 minute ride in.

Sometimes I think some of this stuff is to give us a false sense of security.

My oldest daughter who lives in Syracuse had a dentist appointment. Because they were limiting how many people could be in the office, She had to wait outside in the hot sun for 20 minutes until someone could get to her to take her temperature. When they finally got to her, her forehead temp was 104.1 and what did they do? They told her, "OK, come on in, you're fine." So what's the point of all this?

You use a couple statistical numbers without any factual data to represent your claims. Basically your posts are only your opinion and clearly you are the minority. If you want to say things like "a large percentage of ppl not...." show us the data. Till then I'm guessing you live near the same deniers as yourself and its not indicative of the general population. But believe what you will.

Not my data
Nycities data argue with them

My oldest daughter who lives in Syracuse had a dentist appointment. Because they were limiting how many people could be in the office, She had to wait outside in the hot sun for 20 minutes until someone could get to her to take her temperature. When they finally got to her, her forehead temp was 104.1 and what did they do? They told her, "OK, come on in, you're fine." So what's the point of all this?

There is no point
Pointless
And fruitless stupiduty

Thank you very much for your comment, Tony. Insults me but can't even spell correctly.

Maybe because it started in NY and we really didn't have the knowledge to treat people it was more trial and error. Now that the other states are seeing increases in cases we can treat them more effectively. Does that work for you?

No not really,not with numbers like that,we would all be aware of a treatment that lowered the death rate that much don't you think? I am hopeing the virus is becoming less lethal.

Nobody is denying the virus

what’s being questioned is the viability of the
“ precautions”

here’s a few facts
Places that had very very high numbers like ny
Don’t seam to be experiencing a new surge regardless of ppl actually following protical.

while places that “ flattened it” or kept it in check are
Now experiencing surges , case in point florida
and California

fact is the death rates much much lower than any predictions

so what the hell are we doing but spinning our wheels

Can anyone tell me what this effective treatment breakthrough is? Other states are seeing more cases but they're not dying.
Unfortunately NYS decided that a nursing home patient that died in a hospital does not count towards the nursing home Covid death total - so we'll never know truly the cost of the trial and error approach.

I never said cure all treatment to eliminate it. We are treating it more effectively
How about remdesivir, and dexamethasone. We were not giving those in the beginning. I can't remember the drug name that trump was pushing it was used and not very effective. There was another one before that but I can't recall that one either. But it didn't seem to help. Or how about now we are putting people into comas when they can still handle the intubation process with a better outcome. Will that work?

If you think that we are not treating people with this better now than we were when NY was at the height you need to take your head out of the sand.

Please define "Late to the game?" Just what are you referring to when you say "Game?"

All I'm saying is that the data are not representative of an infection without any purposeful interdiction so you can't make a comment like, "These data are what the natural course of a COVID-19 epidemic look like."

The game is just a phrase
In this instance we missed the 1st several inning of the spread
It was already loose running a muck through ny
To turn another phase
We were a day ( many days late) and a dollar short

it was out in front and running we flattened nothing
We accomplished nothing
We locked it in our homes and facilities

the nyc charts bear that out clearly
You just refuse to acknowledge it

there’s no hill of cases tapering off

there’s a mountain of cases
Sharply declining

Now we’re flat
After two months of some following protocols and many many not at all

At this point and are bullshit
Mask are bullshit
and the govt overreach is bullshit

I have a few friends fairly welll conected in local govt

word is the mayors already planning Sharp curtailment of movement to coincide with the November election, based on nothing but politics
Because the numbers by is seeing clearly reflect that isnt necessary

you preach science and data
NYCs Data is clear

you preach science and data
NYCs Data is clear

Yes the data are clear, a clear demonstration that interdiction worked for NY in saving life, but regrettably it had major economic repercussions.

With other states loosening the Draconian measures that NY used to shut this puppy down, we're starting to see the error of opening up too early as they start mimicking what we saw in NY March and April. These upturns were preventable, but choices were made not to continue or tighten the measures that could have prevented them in order to open up the economy. Once again, a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" scenario with no easy nor correct answer.

I've never sold the economic impact of these measures short. I know it's ghastly and it all comes down to the topic that NOBODY wants to admit to addressing, "How much is a human life worth?" versus "What percent in economic loss can we afford?"

Obviously families that have lost one or more members will have one opinion, while folks whose small businesses are going belly up will have another. Maybe it's time for folks to consider this topic among all their other important issues when they choose leaders?

I keep forgetting this is the opinion not based in fact thread. Gotta stop getting sucked back in.