Coronavirus

this sounds like we could be playing with fire.......................

*Consider the decision last month by the agriculture department’s Food Safety and Inspection Service to allow poultry plants to process diseased chickens for human consumption.

In July the FSIS approved a petition from the National Chicken Council requesting that slaughterhouses be allowed to process broilers infected with Avian Leukosis — a virus that causes chickens to develop cancerous lesions and tumors. Inspectors would no longer be required to examine the first 300 birds of each flock for signs of the disease, and processors would be able to cut off tumors and lesions and then process the rest of the bird. The approval has led to a proposed rule change that is now before the food safety administrator Paul Kiecker.

Here’s what we know about Avian Leukosis: A small percentage of birds (less than 1%) are diagnosed with the virus each year, but it spreads quickly through flocks and tens of thousands of chickens are condemned annually due to exposure. While it’s unlikely that the virus could transfer from chickens to humans, it’s not impossible. There is some evidence that workers exposed to birds infected with the disease in the U.K. have developed antibodies, indicating a transfer of the virus from animal to human.

Parthapratim Basu, who served as the Chief Public Health Veterinarian for the FSIS from 2016 to 2018, explained that Avian Leukosis is caused by a retrovirus and can become a systemic disease that passes through the blood, at which point cutting out tumors would fail to eliminate the virus. “We have always had a motto in food safety: If it’s systemic, condemn it,” said Basu.*

............the timing of a rule change seems absurd. “We are dealing right now with a pandemic that transferred into humans from an animal source,” Basu added. “Sooner or later it will mutate,” he said of Avian Leukosis. “A poorly regulated meat industry could very well become the source of a new epidemic.”

The CDC reports that “more than six out of every 10 known infectious diseases in people can be spread from animals, and 3 out of every 4 new or emerging infectious diseases in people come from animals.”

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Its OK. there will be a fine print message saying something like "this free range chicken was diseased but all tumors and lesions were removed prior to processing..."

this sounds like we could be playing with fire.......................

*Consider the decision last month by the agriculture department’s Food Safety and Inspection Service to allow poultry plants to process diseased chickens for human consumption.

In July the FSIS approved a petition from the National Chicken Council requesting that slaughterhouses be allowed to process broilers infected with Avian Leukosis — a virus that causes chickens to develop cancerous lesions and tumors. Inspectors would no longer be required to examine the first 300 birds of each flock for signs of the disease, and processors would be able to cut off tumors and lesions and then process the rest of the bird. The approval has led to a proposed rule change that is now before the food safety administrator Paul Kiecker.

Here’s what we know about Avian Leukosis: A small percentage of birds (less than 1%) are diagnosed with the virus each year, but it spreads quickly through flocks and tens of thousands of chickens are condemned annually due to exposure. While it’s unlikely that the virus could transfer from chickens to humans, it’s not impossible. There is some evidence that workers exposed to birds infected with the disease in the U.K. have developed antibodies, indicating a transfer of the virus from animal to human.

Parthapratim Basu, who served as the Chief Public Health Veterinarian for the FSIS from 2016 to 2018, explained that Avian Leukosis is caused by a retrovirus and can become a systemic disease that passes through the blood, at which point cutting out tumors would fail to eliminate the virus. “We have always had a motto in food safety: If it’s systemic, condemn it,” said Basu.*

............the timing of a rule change seems absurd. “We are dealing right now with a pandemic that transferred into humans from an animal source,” Basu added. “Sooner or later it will mutate,” he said of Avian Leukosis. “A poorly regulated meat industry could very well become the source of a new epidemic.”

The CDC reports that “more than six out of every 10 known infectious diseases in people can be spread from animals, and 3 out of every 4 new or emerging infectious diseases in people come from animals.”

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It adds to the flavor.

The interesting thing is that all the new cases are in a single family, but they closed down THE ENTIRE CITY. They're really serious about squelching this sucker!!

We are hitting peak insanity levels.

Tony was right about a lot of things. We have let absolute fear, driven by global elites and the media, driving us into oblivion on a virus that is no more deadly than Pnemona, TB, or a very bad flue season. .

overall < 1% mortality rate or there about
covid testing that is between 39% - 65% inaccurate (false positives) and double and triple counting tests
failure to classify a "case" as being: asymptomatic with no conditions; conditions but sent home; having conditions and requiring hospitalization. They just give us gross numbers as in case #'s in total + ICU hospitalization.
Cause of deaths being falsely linked to Covid in multiple jurisdictions across the country (especially Florida)
The fallacy that masks actually protect the user from airborne stuff (OK surgical mask protect the wearer from fluids), the disclaimer is right on the box.

We are letting fear mongering drive us to give up every civil liberty we have, and economically ruin this country. For what??

Here we go again!

15 minute read here for those interested. Might knock the crap out of the outright lies and fear mongering you all have been hearing.

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15 minute read here for those interested. Might knock the crap out of the outright lies and fear mongering you all have been hearing.

That is interesting,

Tony was right about a lot of things. We have let absolute fear, driven by global elites and the media, driving us into oblivion on a virus that is no more deadly than Pnemona, TB, or a very bad flue season. .

overall < 1% mortality rate or there about
covid testing that is between 39% - 65% inaccurate (false positives) and double and triple counting tests
failure to classify a "case" as being: asymptomatic with no conditions; conditions but sent home; having conditions and requiring hospitalization. They just give us gross numbers as in case #'s in total + ICU hospitalization.
Cause of deaths being falsely linked to Covid in multiple jurisdictions across the country (especially Florida)
The fallacy that masks actually protect the user from airborne stuff (OK surgical mask protect the wearer from fluids), the disclaimer is right on the box.

We are letting fear mongering drive us to give up every civil liberty we have, and economically ruin this country. For what??

Once again I will say this as I said it to Tony. Don't you think the mortality rate is low "because" we are doing what we are doing.

I have 1 question for you. Do you think if we did nothing no masks no shutting things down no social distancing the mortality rate will be the same? I only ask you to answer that 1 question.

Then when your answer is no, would it be higher, how much higher would it be? What is an acceptable number of deaths to do something?

Once again I will say this as I said it to Tony. Don't you think the mortality rate is low "because" we are doing what we are doing.

I have 1 question for you. Do you think if we did nothing no masks no shutting things down no social distancing the mortality rate will be the same? I only ask you to answer that 1 question.

Then when your answer is no, would it be higher, how much higher would it be? What is an acceptable number of deaths to do something?

Kevin, I think social distancing helped out perhaps 10% on the margin. To your question. No, if we didn’t do those things we would have HIGHER mortality with the over 70 population with preexisting conditions.
Under that age group the death rate is less than .025%

Well hey this is the thread that is not based on fact or anything other than your opinion.

So we would have higher mortality rate above 70, and much lower with those 69 and under. So at what point would all those asymptomatic (without symptom) carriers that are under 70 transmit the virus to those over 70. Do we just sit back and let all those old folks just die? It sure would solve most of the social security issues.

Once again you say the mortality rate in that age group is less than .025% (is that the correct math or another mistake you made in a previous post), don't you think that would be higher of we didnt do all those things. But I digress and just concede that you are correct and we should have done nothing this way everyone...well a big percentage of those over 70 would just die and we could have fixed or made Social security more solvent.

I keep forgetting this is the opinion not based in fact thread. Gotta stop getting sucked back in.

Dammit dammit dammit.

glad I am still 69. some of you would seemingly want me to turn into fertilizer ! and for you slightly younger ones, keep in mind that for me and many others the best years of your life come when you retire. These last 9 years, one month and 13 days have been wonderful, medical issues aside.

Kevin, I think social distancing helped out perhaps 10% on the margin. To your question. No, if we didn’t do those things we would have HIGHER mortality with the over 70 population with preexisting conditions.
Under that age group the death rate is less than .025%

so it's a case of "fuk 'em"? They're old. They had a long life. Let 'em die so we don't have to be inconvenienced?

so it's a case of "fuk 'em"? They're old. They had a long life. Let 'em die so we don't have to be inconvenienced?

Seems to be the case.Hurray for me and FUK everybody else!

"Me first !" Bring back the draft and include women.

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Really!! Go back and read what I wrote. No where did I say anything like F' the old folks, or even insinuate that. My parents are both in there mid 70's. I am merely stating FACT; that Covid kills a substantially greater population of folks over 70 who have pre-exiting conditions than any other age group. Actually, it's mostly those over 80 with pre-existing conditions. If you don't like FACTS, that is your problem.

And now that we have 6 months worth of data, it's time to let people live their lives. If you feel like you are in a population segment and/or have a compromised immune system, take the necessary precautions. If you're just scared out of your wits, lock yourself down for the next two years if you wish.

As for the rest of us, .GOV needs to let us make adult decisions as to how we lead our lives. Unfortunately though, that is not going to happen; it is not part of the master plan.

Our school district will be open full time K-5 and hybrid for 6-12; wait and see how many times they lock it down come fall every time a child has a runny nose. It's going to be a sh!t show.

The government in Melbourne Australia just locked down a city of 5 Million people for 6 weeks because 7 folks in nursing homes came down with Covid.

Wisconsin's Department of Natural Resources is now mandating that all gov employees working from home MUST wear face masks while on ZOOM teleconferences.

A college in Georgia is recommending wearing a mask during sex, with a suggestion that people actually self gratify themselves instead.

And the list goes on and on........

This is absolute madness.

wear a mask while having sex, LoL, that’s almost as good as wearing a bag over their head when getting a blow job... cellfish...