Maybe just Maybe if more people would participate in social distancing and wearing masks we would not need lock downs.
As Gov. Jesse Ventura famously said after Minnesotans kept killing themselves by dropping through the thin ice in their snowmobiles......
He was BORN FREE!! And very very STUPID
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OPINION | I will not wear a mask. Why, you ask? Because I am a free man — born free, as free as the lion, and the thundercloud, and the 1970 Oldsmobile 442, and nobody in their right mind would ask a lion, a thundercloud or a vintage Olds 442 to wear a mask, because nature made them free, and freedom doesn’t wear a mask, so neither do I.
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What happens when you ( to be polite) pass gas in that thing?
I think we can find the answer in ancient chinese wisdom.
"Confucius say: Man who fart in church sit in own pew."
This one isn't as ludicrous as it seems. I know of many who are doing quite well thanks to the pandemic, one being a former client who owns a small company that produces a critical reagent for COVID-19 diagnostic tests, sales off the charts....
I'm confused. I'd swear that I heard someone on the news last night claiming that "We've turned the corner..." regarding COVID-19. Guess I'm not remembering correctly, or the claimant hadn't checked the CDC data...
*Exhaustion and impatience**** are creating new risks as coronavirus cases soar in parts of the world. Nearly 40 million people have been infected globally.
The U.S. surpassed [eight million known cases]('https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html?') this past week, and reported more than 70,000 new infections on Friday, the most in a single day since July. Eighteen states added more new infections during the past week than in any other during the pandemic.
In Europe, cases are rising and hospitalizations are up. Britain is imposing new restrictions, and France has placed cities on “maximum alert.” Germany (Munich, pictured above) and Italy set records for the most new daily cases. [This is the state of the virus around the world.]('https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/world/coronavirus-maps.html')
The virus has taken different paths through these countries as leaders have implemented a range of restrictions. But a common sentiment emerged: [a public weariness]('https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/17/us/coronavirus-pandemic-fatigue.html') of the coronavirus and a growing tendency to risk its dangers, out of desire or necessity.***
One New Yorker summed it up: “I am so tired of everything. Is it going to be over? I want it to be over.”
The only metric that matters is mortality. Infections/Cases is a BS metric.
Agreed. Thankfully we have the CDC, an federal organization that was set up specifically for something like this.
And they want to federalize health care ?♂️
Wanna bet that number gets eclipsed by another state soon?
Written on June 26th - NY still has a very healthy lead almost 4 months later. Page 116 if you want to see cluelessness, especially the likes
The only metric that matters is mortality. Infections/Cases is a BS metric.
I will take a bit of a contraposition in that as an epidemic continues things change on the population and treatment sides.
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[*]As things progress, folks with compromised immune systems and comorbidities succumb to the disease. Later in the epidemic, there are fewer of these patients left so even though infections are increasing, the number of deaths could be flat or deceasing. The old and the sickly are always the first to go.
[*]As an epidemic of a novel virus progresses medical science continually rewrites and improves its playbook in terms of which treatments work, and what diagnostic tests they need to monitor to help them improve treatment of patients.
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[*]New treatments come on line (Remdesivir, Sera from recovered patients, Monoclonal Antibody Infusion, dexamethasone), treatments that were not available at the onset of the pandemic. We also learn which ones don't work so well (Hydroxchloroquine, Azithromycin).
[]Medical Science gets "smarter" knowing how to better test patients to know if they'll be slipping into a dangerous condition, e.g. *Bradykinin Storm, Cytokine Storm, etc.
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Yes, deaths are down, but the skyrocketing increase in cases is still a very disconcerting and dangerous data set, It should not be minimized or downplayed.
Had a infection of my windpipe January 2020 that was severe enough for me to get to the Dr in 2 days. I'm never that pro-active. Never had a diagnosis like that, Azithroymicin worked wonderfully.
Since this is seemingly uncharted territory, I believe there are misconceptions on what works for who - age, blood type, pre-existing conditions, vitamin deficiencies, etc. And I'm not sure the CDC is charting it correctly.
EDIT: More that they're not reporting on it
Dom- agree with bullet points 1-2(and subs bullets).
Last sentence about case count is not disconcerning to me. . It is actually a good thing. Herd immunity and less people are dying! It proves this is less deadly than previously thought.
That said, the infatuation every day reporting case count is nothing more than a social engineering excerise on the population globally which is leading to a massive reset economically and socially.
And that is the goal; a global reset. The UK is already clustering the population and dictating who you can hang out with and where. Total nazi tactics.and if you disobey, fines and
Don’t think it’s not coming here.
People get sick. 15k college athletes had a case of COVID..in September..: not 1 went to the hospital and none dead.
basic principal here is that if you have a compromised immune system, take caution. That’s been par for the course for decades and the advice of every doctor.
for the rest of us, let us make our own decisions and live our lives.
[FONT=arial][SIZE=4]Well the inn owners certainly lived up to their motto of: Let us help you make her special day unforgettable. Pandemic Fatigue is a dangerous thing...[/SIZE][/FONT]
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More than 80 people attended the birthday event, officials said. A Long Island venue was fined $12,000.
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More than 80 people attended a Sweet 16 party at the Miller Place Inn last month, well above New York State’s 50-person limit, officials said. Credit...James Carbone for Newsday
By [Daniel E. Slotnik]('https://www.nytimes.com/by/daniel-e-slotnik') and [Michael Gold]('https://www.nytimes.com/by/michael-gold')
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The “Diamond Sweet 16 Package” at the Miller Place Inn, an opulent Long Island catering hall, includes options like virgin frozen daiquiris and a make-your-own-s’mores bar.
But those treats are unavailable for now. The inn has closed temporarily and its owners have been fined after one such party there last month left 37 people infected with the coronavirus and forced over 270 into quarantine, officials said.
More than 80 people attended the Sept. 25 party, officials said, well above the 50-person limit imposed by Gov. Andrew M. Cuomo as part of New York’s broader effort to keep the virus at bay.
As a result, Mr. Cuomo said on Wednesday, what was planned as a celebration turned into a so-called super-spreading event.
“They had a Sweet 16 party,” the governor said at a news conference. “How sweet. Yeah, it wasn’t that sweet. Dozens of people from the Sweet 16 party got sick. It just shows you how one event can generate so many cases.”
The party in Miller Place was at least the second large gathering in Suffolk County, a mix of working-class and affluent communities on eastern Long Island, to flout the state’s restrictions on crowd sizes.
In July, the state opened an investigation after [more than 2,150 people attended a charity concert in the Hamptons]('https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/27/nyregion/hamptons-chainsmokers-concert-social-distancing.html') that featured the D.J. duo the Chainsmokers and [the chief executive of Goldman Sachs]('https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/13/business/dealbook/goldman-sachs-david-solomon-dj-d-sol.html') spinning records in his side gig as a D.J.
Officials said on Wednesday that the concert’s promoter, In the Know Experiences, would be fined $20,000 and that the Miller Place Inn’s owners would be fined $12,000 for violating regulations and increasing the risk that the virus would spread.
Donna and Christopher Regina, who own the inn with family members, did not respond to requests for comment. The inn’s website says it is “Long Island’s Best Wedding Venue” and lists the “[Diamond Sweet 16 Package]('https://www.millerplaceinn.com/events/diamond-sweet-16-package/')” as perfect for a girl turning 16 or celebrating a quinceañera.
“Let us help you make her special day unforgettable,” the website says.
A lawyer for the family, Anthony P. Gallo, said the Reginas had spent around $10,000 on various safety measures to protect patrons during the pandemic.
“They’ve conducted themselves always within the letter of the law, they’ve never had any problems,” Mr. Gallo said, adding, “They’re just beside themselves with the turn of events.”
But Steven Bellone, the Suffolk County executive, said the Department of Consumer Affairs had previously issued the inn’s owners three written warnings that included descriptions of the state guidelines limiting events there to 50 people.
After the party, he said in an interview, the virus rippled through the county, with the rising number of cases forcing one school to close and leading people connected to 34 other schools into isolation or quarantine.
It was Suffolk County’s first major virus outbreak since the spring, Mr. Bellone said. And without the county Health Department’s swift contact-tracing efforts, he said, “the community spread would be out of control.”
As for the Chainsmokers concert, organizers had described it beforehand as a “drive-in music experience,” where guests would sit outside near their parked cars in spaced-out areas to watch the performers in a “safe and controlled environment.”
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State officials opened an investigation into a July concert in the Hamptons after widely shared video footage showed people standing close together. Credit...Kevin Mazur/Getty Images for Safe & Sound
But video footage that was widely shared on social media showed crowds of people standing close together, with some of them wearing face coverings improperly.
In The Know Experiences declined to comment on either Mr. Cuomo’s remarks or the fine.
The governor also said that town officials in Southampton, where the concert was held, would not be allowed to issue permits for group gatherings without receiving state approval first.
“I’ve spent time talking to the people in the Town of Southampton,” he said. “Frankly, I don’t know what they were thinking.”
Southampton’s town supervisor, Jay Schneiderman, said in an interview that state officials had not provided details about their plan to regulate the town’s events.
“We haven’t seen anything in writing yet to that regard,” he said. “But that would be holding Southampton to a different standard.”
Mr. Cuomo also threatened on Wednesday to withhold state funds from local governments that failed to enforce school closings and other restrictions in areas with high infection rates, although he did not provide details on how he would act on the threat. (Later in the day, he issued [an executive order]('https://www.governor.ny.gov/news/no-20269-continuing-temporary-suspension-and-modification-laws-relating-disaster-emergency') authorizing such moves.)
“Hopefully that will motivate them,” he said.
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