Coronavirus

Yes, but years ago. Is that the one where they poison the incoming cocaine? (always thought we actually should. I could deal with losing half of Congress and 90% of Hollywood.)

Or is that the one with the terrorists and the ebola like virus ?

Anybody read Tom Clancy's "Rainbow Six"? :oops:

Yeah, I won't be an early adopter of the vaccine either. ?

I myself will be first on line. Phase 3 here, counting on adverse reactions if any, being detected on Phase 1 and 2, <grin>

I fully believe that in some cases by later next year we will be asked to "show us your paperz!" to enter certain events, travel etc. Being retired, with pensions every month, with hobbies that are mainly solitary, this whole thing has been pretty easy for us so far. Sure we cancelled a vacation in September, miss the Bronz zoo, and haven't seen my inlaws since February but never missed a day shooting (today, in fact), kayaking, swimming, fishing, hunting, gardening etc. Now if I were in my low 40s, still working, with my sons in grade school, TOTALLY different story ! I feel for you guys and can't really imagine how crappy things must be.

Still not sure. Someone sneezed on the cups at 7-11 or out the window in front of me on Northern State at 4 am. One of my guys from the job came down with it last week also. We haven’t seen each other in a month. Who knows.
Don’t give your cell number either if you get sick. Health dept starts harassing the next day. I taped a message telling all to “Fuck Off I’m Not Talking”. They spoof numbers like the telemarketers. Caller ID may say Schenectady or Greenport leaving same message. They even taped a letter to my door. They can all go fuck themselves.

So let's tell a true story, because it hits home.
A family member of mine received one of those calls and isolated immediately. A day later symptoms started. So at least one day of not being selfish and staying away from others. Did it protect others? Did it save a life? Don't know. That's for you to think about.
This family member received "harassing calls" and assisted the contract tracers. Guess what? The folks that then received calls took it seriously, not selfishly, and isolated. Their symptoms did not show for 2-3 days. If not for the call, 4-5 people would have continued their life for the next 2-3 days that they were contagious. How many more infections? Don't know. Did that protect others? Did it save a life? Don't know. That's for you to think about.
From what I hear, that "micro cluster" was able to stop the spread in their little world.
And then you wonder why the numbers are going up. So worried about big bad government, do your part and maybe this will subside, just like my family member's "micro cluster". Your thoughts?

Yes, but years ago. Is that the one where they poison the incoming cocaine? (always thought we actually should. I could deal with losing half of Congress and 90% of Hollywood.)

Or is that the one with the terrorists and the ebola like virus ?

Eco terrorists spread an Ebola like virus causing a world wide pandemic. When the "vaccine" is developed, it is actually designed to give the victim the virus. Part of their plot to wipe out the human population and turn earth back over to the animals and the few privileged humans that started the whole thing.

Oh, and in the end, Mr. Clark takes care of business.

So what liberty could be taken away if you, I guess the way to phrase it, kill another human in a MV accident? I guess if driving under the influence there are laws that cover that. Driving 100 MPH in a school zone, there are laws for that. Not even sure if I can rationalize this to Covid so please help.

Not even sure if I can rationalize this to Covid so please help.

Those are U.S. Covid deaths by age group?

Those are U.S. Covid deaths by age group?

Are you asking me? Chart is not mine. I asked about rationalization of COVID to MVA's.

Please forgive me, I am still trying to figure out where you are going with this. Your argument?

Until I get the second dose, I will simply not be meeting with anyone out of my household without being masked and staying a few feet away. Will not go to the movies, restaurants, etc. Except for groceries, buying EVERYTHING online. Even if you don't die from the china virus, I know personally of several people who survived but are now experiencing some physical symptoms as well as that "brain fog" you hear about wherein they can not stay interested or focused on things. At age 69 I do not what that aspect of my life to get any worse than it already is !

Glad to see you beat the odds and from what you are saying, will move forward without any complications.
Your opinion regarding hospitals, is again your opinion. All I will tell you is about the conversations I have had with physicians in very specialized disciplines, being put into service and intubating folks at a rapid pace back in the beginning of this thing as beds ran out, and medical personnel could not keep up with the onslaught. Oh, and not just folks over 80. Not people coming for tests. I'll
Have you ever had Pneumonia? Just curious. I wrote it almost killed me 12 years ago. Same for my six year

So let's tell a true story, because it hits home.
A family member of mine received one of those calls and isolated immediately. A day later symptoms started. So at least one day of not being selfish and staying away from others. Did it protect others? Did it save a life? Don't know. That's for you to think about.
This family member received "harassing calls" and assisted the contract tracers. Guess what? The folks that then received calls took it seriously, not selfishly, and isolated. Their symptoms did not show for 2-3 days. If not for the call, 4-5 people would have continued their life for the next 2-3 days that they were contagious. How many more infections? Don't know. Did that protect others? Did it save a life? Don't know. That's for you to think about.
From what I hear, that "micro cluster" was able to stop the spread in their little world.
And then you wonder why the numbers are going up. So worried about big bad government, do your part and maybe this will subside, just like my family member's "micro cluster". Your thoughts?

The basic protocols are discussed with you with literature after testing positive at City MD. The county wished to remind me that the fines for breaking quarantine are serious. They didn’t give a shit that I have pneumonia and stood outside in gales and rain for three hours to get the monopolized test. Don’t think you guys are getting the picture. The lines are all SICK people trying to get seen. Nobody wants to see while your sick now. I’ve had same primary for 30 yrs. He won’t and probably none of yours will see you either. My thoughts are mine and I take full responsibility for my health as they and you should for yours. If your scared stay in it’s your choice. I’m over it, was a cake walk.

that was not my intention with that question......when it is I can do much better than that ya know

Anyway we need 75% vaccinated......looks like a NO
Everyone wears a mask ....nah!!

So this thing continues and we get total shutdowns since the medical facilities are over whelmed...and maybe it goes away after 2 years like the spanish flu did all by itself

Does the no mask...no vac crowd have a solution?

Not having a solution
Doesn’t warrent doing usless things

I really think a lot of ppl live under rocks and have not been outside to see what’s really going on

The basic protocols are discussed with you with literature after testing positive at City MD. The county wished to remind me that the fines for breaking quarantine are serious. They didn’t give a shit that I have pneumonia and stood outside in gales and rain for three hours to get the monopolized test. Don’t think you guys are getting the picture. The lines are all SICK people trying to get seen. Nobody wants to see while your sick now. I’ve had same primary for 30 yrs. He won’t and probably none of yours will see you either. My thoughts are mine and I take full responsibility for my health as they and you should for yours. If your scared stay in it’s your choice. I’m over it, was a cake walk.

Rick67,

It looks like you may have responded to me earlier, I cannot find your post.

But I do see this from above. Was there more? - "Have you ever had Pneumonia? Just curious. I wrote it almost killed me 12 years ago. Same for my six year"

If so post again.

If that is what you asked, no, I have never had Pneumonia, well, at least not diagnosed. The days of going to work with fever and trouble breathing without seeing a doctor are over for all now. Sniffle and you get the look.

I know the goal of all is to stay healthy, I get it, because NOBODY wants to, or even can get an appointment for the regular illnesses of the year.

My experience with pneumonia was watching my 7 year old son in a hospital bed for 8 days and things going where no parent can comprehend unless they have had the same experience. At the time, I truly did not understand the magnitude of what was happening. Thank goodness the wonderful infectious disease dept at Stony Brook got him through it. So maybe, just maybe, I can relate.

I could also comment as recent as late Jan 2020 when my daughter decided to give mono a try like her girlfriends up at school who got sick etc and healed up just fine. Kinda like your personal "cake walk". Not her, she turned bright yellow with the most disturbing looking eyes for a bit as the mono decided to really put on a show and cause a lot of problems with her liver. I think it began to sink in when I had to sign papers to allow her case to be reviewed by the Mount Sinai Liver Group. In case it went to a complete liver failure. Well, her body fought a bit harder and she turned the corner. My wife and I can't begin to describe how thankful we are for her recovery.

So I know a bit about life and illnesses and how swift life can be ripped from you. My family was spared that pain...........so far.

I don't really know where to go with this conversation so I will say this.

I wear my "face diaper" for you............not for me. Maybe if we had more respect for each other, this terrible thing would move along a bit faster. But then again, live YOUR life how you want. I guess that's what its all about!

Not having a solution
Doesn’t warrent doing usless things

I really think a lot of ppl live under rocks and have not been outside to see what’s really going on

Well, you have the solution. Walk around like nothing is wrong because that is your right. You already gave your true feelings a couple of pages ago. Obviously very few people under rocks if the sickness is ripping through the population. They see.......................and then end up sick

Just got back from shooting at Mitchel Field Range. Everyone masked, LEOs and civilians. The wife of the buddy I shot with got the china virus in late March. She is still not "back" and has that "brain fog" as I know others who suffer from it as well. I hope to God these lasting symptoms eventually expire but just another reason I remain masked and distant.

I’ve never said it’s a solution
I said it’s what I do because the mask are useless and social distancing are more destructive to life and the economy than the virus could ever be

of someone comes up with something that can combat the virus and not destroy society and the economy I’m all ears

as far as the vaccine I’m out because you can’t tell me you’ll never tell me
That I lived with a person in very very close proximity that has anti bodies and I didn’t contract it
Something doesn’t add up

Well, you have the solution. Walk around like nothing is wrong because that is your right. You already gave your true feelings a couple of pages ago. Obviously very few people under rocks if the sickness is ripping through the population. They see.......................and then end up sick

You really need to open your eyes
Masked ppl get it
Unmasked ppl get it
Locked down ppl get it

ppl get it

doing what we are doing and destroying the economy and social norms isn’t the answer

there may not be an answer
But I’m not every going to be willing to destroy the economy in general or my personal finances period

Just got back from shooting at Mitchel Field Range. Everyone masked, LEOs and civilians. The wife of the buddy I shot with got the china virus in late March. She is still not "back" and has that "brain fog" as I know others who suffer from it as well. I hope to God these lasting symptoms eventually expire but just another reason I remain masked and distant.

So, not a "cake walk"?