Coronavirus

Vaccine helped?

I guess the Atomic bomb "helped" end WW2?..................................Not a Kimmel fan and like most liberals, he tends to go off on a tangent but his points about the vaccine are dead on!

And no one said that the vaccine didn’t help

what was said is that the analogy sucked
And wasn’t accurate

it was a metaphor............

it was a metaphor............

What's a Meta for?

Why?

You're being allowed to voice yours?

Because the media and major networks are stacked with puppets who are spineless, soulless, fake and phony front end brain washers.

This country had made leaps and bounds towards equality while changing people the proper way of knowing what is right and wrong with common sense. Now people will be discriminated for how they decide on a flu shot? Ridiculous how radical liberals can be.

Oh and yes, my voice is heard by those who matter and I listen to them as well. Not like the people who claim to be liberal but are not at all.

Because the media and major networks are stacked with puppets who are spineless, soulless, fake and phony front end brain washers.

This country had made leaps and bounds towards equality while changing people the proper way of knowing what is right and wrong with common sense. Now people will be discriminated for how they decide on a flu shot? Ridiculous how radical liberals can be.

Oh and yes, my voice is heard by those who matter and I listen to them as well. Not like the people who claim to be liberal but are not at all.

Well said Its sad to think people would follow/believe what Jimmy Kimmel says he should of stayed on the man show at least there he was funny

*Then he really went to town:
“The only reason you’re somewhat safe now is because other people got the shot. You’re the person who heads for the bathroom when the check comes at the restaurant. You’re the lady who takes home the centerpieces from a wedding you weren’t invited to. You’re the guy who brings five napkins to a potluck dinner. That’s you.”

“You don’t think it’s you,” he added. “But it’s you.”*

THE ME ME ME CROWD AND EFF EVERYONE ELSE

THE ME ME ME CROWD AND EFF EVERYONE ELSE

Jimmys claim to fame lol

THE ME ME ME CROWD AND EFF EVERYONE ELSE

Love the Girls on Trampolines, one of the best parts of The Man Show, besides...

[HEADING=2]Zicke, Zacke, Zicke, Zacke, Hoi, Hoi, Hoi![/HEADING]

Love the Girls on Trampolines, one of the best parts of The Man Show, besides...

[HEADING=2]Zicke, Zacke, Zicke, Zacke, Hoi, Hoi, Hoi![/HEADING]

All he was good for

If you want funny late nite, watch Johnny Carson vintage re-runs.

sorry off topic but the kid was awesome
[MEDIA=youtube]mwXSYQ-RhJw[/MEDIA]

[MEDIA=youtube]dzrWMIumZ1s[/MEDIA]

Ill let it slide since thats all Jimmy is good for and should be known for

this is like political "discussions." We are not going to change each other's minds whatsoever. May as well just stick with the science thread.

I am always open to changing my mind.
If it’s not idiotic offerings, I always consider other opinions and ideas.

And he still hasn’t a clue and peeps listen ?

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.aier.org/article/fauci-was-duplicitous-on-the-aids-epidemic-too/amp/[/URL]

Moving the goal posts.....

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/caught-red-handed-cdc-changes-test-thresholds-virtually-eliminate-new-covid-cases-among[/URL]

New policies will artificially deflate “breakthrough infections” in the vaccinated, while the old rules continue to inflate case numbers in the unvaccinated.

The US Center for Disease Control (CDC) is altering its practices of data logging and testing for “Covid19” in order to make it seem the experimental gene-therapy “vaccines” are effective at preventing the alleged disease.
They made no secret of this, announcing the policy changes on their website in late April/early May, (though naturally without admitting the fairly obvious motivation behind the change).
The trick is in their reporting of what they call “breakthrough infections” – that is people who are fully “vaccinated” against Sars-Cov-2 infection, but get infected anyway.
Essentially, Covid19 has long been shown – to those willing to pay attention – to be an entirely created pandemic narrative built on two key factors:
[LIST=1]
[*]False-positive tests. The [unreliable PCR test]('https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/') can be manipulated into reporting a [high number of false-positives]('https://off-guardian.org/2021/03/27/making-something-out-of-nothing-pcr-tests-ct-values-and-false-positives/') by altering the cycle threshold (CT value)
[]Inflated Case-count. The incredibly [broad definition]('https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/covid-19/surveillance/case-definition') of “Covid case”, used all over the world, lists anyone who receives a positive test as a “Covid19 case”, even if they never experienced any symptoms*.
[/LIST]
Without these two policies, there would never have been an appreciable pandemic at all, and now the CDC has enacted two policy changes which means they no longer apply to vaccinated people.
Firstly, they are lowering their CT value when testing samples from suspected “breakthrough infections”.
From the CDC’s instructions for state health authorities on handling “possible breakthrough infections” (uploaded to their website in late April):

For cases with a known RT-PCR cycle threshold (Ct) value, submit only specimens with Ct value ≤28 to CDC for sequencing. (Sequencing is not feasible with higher Ct values.)

Throughout the pandemic, CT values in excess of 35 have been the norm, with labs around the world going into the 40s.
Essentially labs were running as many cycles as necessary to achieve a positive result, despite experts warning that this was pointless (even [Fauci himself]('https://archive.is/7fqu3') said anything over 35 cycles is meaningless).
But NOW, and only for fully vaccinated people, the CDC will only accept samples achieved from 28 cycles or fewer. That can only be a deliberate decision in order to decrease the number of “breakthrough infections” being officially recorded.
Secondly, asymptomatic or mild infections will no longer be recorded as “covid cases”.
That’s right. Even if a sample collected at the low CT value of 28 can be sequenced into the virus alleged to cause Covid19, the CDC will no longer be keeping records of breakthrough infections that don’t result in hospitalisation or death.
From their [website]('https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html'):

As of May 1, 2021, CDC transitioned from monitoring all reported vaccine breakthrough cases to focus on identifying and investigating only hospitalized or fatal cases due to any cause. This shift will help maximize the quality of the data collected on cases of greatest clinical and public health importance. Previous case counts, which were last updated on April 26, 2021, are available for reference only and will not be updated moving forward.

Just like that, being asymptomatic – or having only minor symptoms – will no longer count as a “Covid case” but only if you’ve been vaccinated.
The CDC has put new policies in place which effectively created a tiered system of diagnosis. Meaning, from now on, unvaccinated people will find it much easier to be diagnosed with Covid19 than vaccinated people.
Consider…

Person A has not been vaccinated. They test positive for Covid using a PCR test at 40 cycles and, despite having no symptoms, they are officially a “covid case”.
Person B has been vaccinated. They test positive at 28 cycles, and spend six weeks bedridden with a high fever. Because they never went into a hospital and didn’t die they are NOT a Covid case.
Person C, who was also vaccinated, did die. After weeks in hospital with a high fever and respiratory problems. Only their positive PCR test was 29 cycles, so they’re not officially a Covid case either.

The CDC is demonstrating the beauty of having a “disease” that can appear or disappear depending on how you measure it.
**To be clear: If these new policies had been the global approach to “Covid” since December 2019, there would never have been a pandemic at all.**
If you apply them only to the vaccinated, but keep the old rules for the unvaccinated, the only possible result can be that the official records show “Covid” is much more prevalent among the latter than the former.
This is a policy designed to continuously inflate one number, and systematically minimise the other.
What is that if not an obvious and deliberate act of deception?

Moving the goal posts.....

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/caught-red-handed-cdc-changes-test-thresholds-virtually-eliminate-new-covid-cases-among[/URL]

New policies will artificially deflate “breakthrough infections” in the vaccinated, while the old rules continue to inflate case numbers in the unvaccinated.

The US Center for Disease Control (CDC) is altering its practices of data logging and testing for “Covid19” in order to make it seem the experimental gene-therapy “vaccines” are effective at preventing the alleged disease.
They made no secret of this, announcing the policy changes on their website in late April/early May, (though naturally without admitting the fairly obvious motivation behind the change).
The trick is in their reporting of what they call “breakthrough infections” – that is people who are fully “vaccinated” against Sars-Cov-2 infection, but get infected anyway.
Essentially, Covid19 has long been shown – to those willing to pay attention – to be an entirely created pandemic narrative built on two key factors:
[LIST=1]
[*]False-positive tests. The [unreliable PCR test]('https://off-guardian.org/2020/06/27/covid19-pcr-tests-are-scientifically-meaningless/') can be manipulated into reporting a [high number of false-positives]('https://off-guardian.org/2021/03/27/making-something-out-of-nothing-pcr-tests-ct-values-and-false-positives/') by altering the cycle threshold (CT value)
[]Inflated Case-count. The incredibly [broad definition]('https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/covid-19/surveillance/case-definition') of “Covid case”, used all over the world, lists anyone who receives a positive test as a “Covid19 case”, even if they never experienced any symptoms*.
[/LIST]
Without these two policies, there would never have been an appreciable pandemic at all, and now the CDC has enacted two policy changes which means they no longer apply to vaccinated people.
Firstly, they are lowering their CT value when testing samples from suspected “breakthrough infections”.
From the CDC’s instructions for state health authorities on handling “possible breakthrough infections” (uploaded to their website in late April):

Throughout the pandemic, CT values in excess of 35 have been the norm, with labs around the world going into the 40s.
Essentially labs were running as many cycles as necessary to achieve a positive result, despite experts warning that this was pointless (even [Fauci himself]('https://archive.is/7fqu3') said anything over 35 cycles is meaningless).
But NOW, and only for fully vaccinated people, the CDC will only accept samples achieved from 28 cycles or fewer. That can only be a deliberate decision in order to decrease the number of “breakthrough infections” being officially recorded.
Secondly, asymptomatic or mild infections will no longer be recorded as “covid cases”.
That’s right. Even if a sample collected at the low CT value of 28 can be sequenced into the virus alleged to cause Covid19, the CDC will no longer be keeping records of breakthrough infections that don’t result in hospitalisation or death.
From their [website]('https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html'):

Just like that, being asymptomatic – or having only minor symptoms – will no longer count as a “Covid case” but only if you’ve been vaccinated.
The CDC has put new policies in place which effectively created a tiered system of diagnosis. Meaning, from now on, unvaccinated people will find it much easier to be diagnosed with Covid19 than vaccinated people.
Consider…

The CDC is demonstrating the beauty of having a “disease” that can appear or disappear depending on how you measure it.
**To be clear: If these new policies had been the global approach to “Covid” since December 2019, there would never have been a pandemic at all.**
If you apply them only to the vaccinated, but keep the old rules for the unvaccinated, the only possible result can be that the official records show “Covid” is much more prevalent among the latter than the former.
This is a policy designed to continuously inflate one number, and systematically minimise the other.
What is that if not an obvious and deliberate act of deception?

Way too many half- truths, statements taken out of context, and plain old BS to even bother responding here, and I’ve got better things to do.

Believe what you want, but don’t forget the dozens of funeral pyres in India…

I also d/l it. Jab 3/5/21 good until 9/5/21. So what happens after that. If I want to go to a ballgame on 9/6/21, I'm no longer considered vaccinated???

you just reapply. you don't even have to wait for it to expire to reapply and again get 6 months from the re-application date.

Well said Its sad to think people would follow/believe what Jimmy Kimmel says he should of stayed on the man show at least there he was funny

No different than how sad it is that so many peeps follow/believe the nonsense the orange faced bozo spews 8-)
Point being, people believe what they want to believe

No different than how sad it is that so many peeps follow/believe the nonsense the orange faced bozo spews 8-)
Point being, people believe what they want to believe

The Patriot you foully speak of was capable , constructive and transparent

The Historically unproductive puppet and falsely installed failure of a politician is a True CLOWN.
The bidens are an embarrassment to our country and the entire world sees him and his family and now all of us as a fools