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TonySmjc

I 100 percent support your decision
My mothers
My wifes
And her 86 year old aunts

I support the decision of all those that decided it wasn’t for them as well

Captain1,857 postsSince 2020
TonySmjc

Dint

odds maybe in their favor but does that grant someone the right to play not only Russian Roulette with their life but with the lives of others?

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Since hospitals are also on over load with COVID patients - other patients are going untreated because there's no bed available. So your not only playing Russian Roulette with your like & others - you're impacting people who need those hospital beds for something totally unrelated to COVID.

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But hey! It's your choice - so by all means carry on & express your rights not to get vaccinated. Continue to use any half baked logic that suits you. And by all means continue to compare this to the flu.

It's idiotic - but - that's your right.

Not aimed at you pequa.
;)

don’t need to Compare it to the flu
Saying it’s not a flu virus is like saying delta isn’t covid

Captain1,857 postsSince 2020
Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2021#6403

Saying it’s not a flu virus is like saying delta isn’t covid

And this from someone who can't tell a DNA sequence from an RNA sequence...

Sorry Tony, you are just plain wrong on this one, there is no interpretation here. It ain't the flu, PERIOD. If Flu was like COVID, we'd have a 98% effective Flu vaccine. On a good year, flu vaccines may get in the 80% effectivity range, 50% on a bad year.

Shall I go to heaven or a-fishing? - H. D. Thoreau
Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,717 postsSince 2018
TonySmjc

And here the ring master chimes in

to us lay ppl it’s the flu
I’ll be nice and not tell u what to do with your dna n rna sequence

Captain1,857 postsSince 2020
Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2021#6405

to us lay ppl it’s the flu

Aye there's the rub. By constantly down playing it as "the flu", folks are lulled into a false complacency, but that's OK for some, since ignorance is bliss...

For some who may want to know the genomic differences, here you go...

Coronaviruses and influenza viruses are both enveloped, single-stranded RNA viruses, and both are encapsidated by nucleoprotein. However, the genomes of these 2 viruses differ in polarity and segmentation. Influenza virus is comprised of 8 single-stranded negative-sense, viral RNA segments. SARS-CoV-2 has single-stranded, non-segmented, positive-sense, viral RNA.

So based on genome, COVID could be considered "closer" to Polio than it is to flu since Polio is also a single-stranded, positive sense RNA virus, but of course you knew that.

And don't be going around saying I'm saying COVID is close to Polio, I'm just using this as a FACTUAL REPRESENTATION of how inane and incorrect it is to say COVID is "The Flu"...

Shall I go to heaven or a-fishing? - H. D. Thoreau
Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,717 postsSince 2018
TonySmjc

Real life experience my friend
Real life trumps your rna sequence all day every day

Captain1,857 postsSince 2020
TonySmjc

One day we will suffer something serious and this chicken little craps going to hurt us big time
Lord help us if it happens soon
We will be neither financially or emotionally prepared to deal with it as a country

Captain1,857 postsSince 2020
pequa1
pequa1MODnoreaster.com2021#6408

we will come together (albeit briefly) when the Taliban attack again next year or the year after.

Every day is Saturday.
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,034 postsSince 2018
wader
waderFREE2021#6409

Dint

don’t need to Compare it to the flu
Saying it’s not a flu virus is like saying delta isn’t covid

if was a flu it's be one hell of a killer flu - the worst anyone on this planet has seen......

I posted this once before but either you didn't see it or chose to ignore as it didn't fit your convoluted narrative:

*How many Americans die from flu each year?

While the impact of flu varies, it places a substantial burden on the health of people in the United States each year. CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.*

[HEADING=2]Disease Burden of Influenza | CDC[/HEADING]

[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]There have been in the US alone 37 million cases & 623,000 deaths as a result of COVID. So less cases of COVID then flu but the death rate from COVID is ten times worse. This in spite of a massive mitigation effort.[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Another thing to consider. The flu barely made an appearance during 2020-2021 largely in part due to the efforts to slowdown the spread of COVID.

[How Covid-19 Precautions Have Kept Flu Cases Low]('https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-covid-19-precautions-have-kept-flu-cases-low-180976786/')

The United States has recorded just over 1,000 cases of the flu since September 2020, which is unusually low, Sara Kiley Watson reports for [Popular Science]('https://www.popsci.com/story/health/covid-flu-rates/')*.

During the same time period last winter, the country recorded over 65,000 cases of the flu. But in the last year, the Covid-19 pandemic has changed a lot about the way that people act to prevent the spread of disease. Precautions like wearing masks, taking extra care when washing hands, and keeping activities outdoors and at a distance from others have all been implemented to slow the spread of Covid-19. The same measures may have stymied the spread of influenza and other seasonal viruses.

"I’d be very surprised if we have a typical flu season now,” says virologist John McCauley, the director of the Francis Crick Institute’s Worldwide Influenza Centre, to [Science magazine]('https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01/covid-19-measures-also-suppress-flu-now')’s Kelly Servick. “To see nothing so far, it’s difficult to see how it’s going to come up in large numbers in January.”

Countries across the Northern Hemisphere are seeing a quiet flu season. In England, flu cases are about one-twentieth of the usual cases at this time of year, Linda Geddes reports for the [Guardian]('https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/10/gp-england-drop-common-cold-flu-cases-coronavirus-restrictions'). The Southern Hemisphere saw a similar phenomenon between June and August, when influenza cases usually peak, the [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention]('https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937a6.htm') reported in September.

Flu vaccination rates are also higher than usual this year. In 2019, about 42 percent of adults in the U.S. received the flu vaccine; this year, 53 percent have. That would also tamp down the spread of influenza, although it doesn’t account for the entire drop in flu cases this year, McCauley tells Science magazine.*

That right there speaks volumes that your efforts to poo poo the use of masks & vaccines as ineffective are largely wrong.

"Well, it's alright.
.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
AdmiralOriginal Crew20,900 postsSince 2018
Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2021#6410

Real life experience my friend
Real life trumps your rna sequence all day every day

DNA and RNA sequences ARE real life, without them, you won't be experiencing Jack...

Shall I go to heaven or a-fishing? - H. D. Thoreau
Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,717 postsSince 2018
TonySmjc

if was a flu it's be one hell of a killer flu - the worst anyone on this planet has seen......

I posted this once before but either you didn't see it or chose to ignore as it didn't fit your convoluted narrative:

*How many Americans die from flu each year?

While the impact of flu varies, it places a substantial burden on the health of people in the United States each year. CDC estimates that influenza has resulted in between 9 million – 45 million illnesses, between 140,000 – 810,000 hospitalizations and between 12,000 – 61,000 deaths annually since 2010.*

[HEADING=2]Disease Burden of Influenza | CDC[/HEADING]

[TABLE]
[TR]
[TD]There have been in the US alone 37 million cases & 623,000 deaths as a result of COVID. So less cases of COVID then flu but the death rate from COVID is ten times worse. This in spite of a massive mitigation effort.[/TD]
[TD][/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

Another thing to consider. The flu barely made an appearance during 2020-2021 largely in part due to the efforts to slowdown the spread of COVID.

[How Covid-19 Precautions Have Kept Flu Cases Low]('https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-covid-19-precautions-have-kept-flu-cases-low-180976786/')

The United States has recorded just over 1,000 cases of the flu since September 2020, which is unusually low, Sara Kiley Watson reports for [Popular Science]('https://www.popsci.com/story/health/covid-flu-rates/')*.

During the same time period last winter, the country recorded over 65,000 cases of the flu. But in the last year, the Covid-19 pandemic has changed a lot about the way that people act to prevent the spread of disease. Precautions like wearing masks, taking extra care when washing hands, and keeping activities outdoors and at a distance from others have all been implemented to slow the spread of Covid-19. The same measures may have stymied the spread of influenza and other seasonal viruses.

"I’d be very surprised if we have a typical flu season now,” says virologist John McCauley, the director of the Francis Crick Institute’s Worldwide Influenza Centre, to [Science magazine]('https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01/covid-19-measures-also-suppress-flu-now')’s Kelly Servick. “To see nothing so far, it’s difficult to see how it’s going to come up in large numbers in January.”

Countries across the Northern Hemisphere are seeing a quiet flu season. In England, flu cases are about one-twentieth of the usual cases at this time of year, Linda Geddes reports for the [Guardian]('https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/10/gp-england-drop-common-cold-flu-cases-coronavirus-restrictions'). The Southern Hemisphere saw a similar phenomenon between June and August, when influenza cases usually peak, the [Centers for Disease Control and Prevention]('https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937a6.htm') reported in September.

Flu vaccination rates are also higher than usual this year. In 2019, about 42 percent of adults in the U.S. received the flu vaccine; this year, 53 percent have. That would also tamp down the spread of influenza, although it doesn’t account for the entire drop in flu cases this year, McCauley tells Science magazine.*

That right there speaks volumes that your efforts to poo poo the use of masks & vaccines as ineffective are largely wrong.

Ok so it was a killer flu

Captain1,857 postsSince 2020
TonySmjc

DNA and RNA sequences ARE real life, without them, you won't be experiencing Jack...

Real life experiances
As in out and about
Not on paper or in some lab
Not living in seclusion on my pvt island
Not hiding in the woods

Real life out and about with real ppl
Since day one

I’ll take my exp over your dna rna sequences any day

Captain1,857 postsSince 2020
Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2021#6413

Real life experiances
As in out and about
Not on paper or in some

And in today's "Science from Real Life Experience", Tony will debunk the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, claiming that he will live for all eternity...

Shall I go to heaven or a-fishing? - H. D. Thoreau
Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,717 postsSince 2018
TonySmjc

Nope
That’s you talking

I’ll live until the day I die

Captain1,857 postsSince 2020
Rick67
Rick67FREE2021#6415

Now a days engines are plugged in a diagnostic computer to figure out what’s wrong. Do you know how many times it ends up back over and over again because a nerd is involved and the word of a mechanic is not allowed being it’s under warranty? “Endless” as 25 of ours go back what seems like monthly to fix the same problem it went in for to begin with.
IMO if it looks like a flu and acts like a flu. It’s a flu. It’s just a new flu and no one besides me and half the earth have the ability to fight it. Sucks to be the rest of you.

KFA-NY BOD.
Yellow Eyed Devils.
Yak Pack.
CommodoreOriginal Crew6,097 postsSince 2019
movetheboat

we will come together (albeit briefly) when the Taliban attack again next year or the year after.

they never attacked us...it was al-queda...all the taliban wants is to run afghanistan....let em!!

CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018
pequa1
pequa1MODnoreaster.com2021#6417

They sheltered the terrorists

Every day is Saturday.
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,034 postsSince 2018
movetheboat

They sheltered the terrorists

yup...but didn't attack us

CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018
Rick67
Rick67FREE2021#6419

First case of postmortem study in a patient vaccinated against SARS-CoV-2

They don’t work and they kill people.

KFA-NY BOD.
Yellow Eyed Devils.
Yak Pack.
CommodoreOriginal Crew6,097 postsSince 2019
OVERBORED

Yes, your right. Just like the flu!:unsure:

Attacks the internal organs...just like the flu!:oops::unsure:

Triggers fatal cytokine response causing death......just like the flu!:unsure:

Scars the heart muscle...just like the flu!

Causes clotting...just like the flu!

Geez.....why didnt they just give everyone a Zpack and call it a day??

"Chance only favors the prepared mind" - Pasteur
Captain4,161 postsSince 2021

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