My dentist a cancer survivor, will wear a face shield
But no mask
he’s never had it either
you’ll never sell me on the mask thing
Until it a real air tight mask that’s never taken off im public
Period
Not even to talk into the mic
ons on
Offs off
No touching
like real ppe
Anything less is a feel good measure
Here is when masks don't work.....when no one is transmitting it....and no one is prone to getting it (ya don'r need it)...maybe some people are resilient to it.
But I really don't wear the mask unless its dictated. Just came from shop n stop...no mask.....any boat ...no mask. Not saying they don't work...just rather take my chances.
Also people are touching the damn things all day like so it's like sticking your hand in your mouth....and then they touch what after that? every fu@king thing.....some don't change them yuch!!
Shit we agree on something
Damn
except that 1st line
that’s bs
Mask simply don’t work as used
Shit we agree on something
Damn
except that 1st line
that’s bs
Mask simply don’t work as used
maybe not...I simply don't know for sure....I don't feel the need for it as protection....only use it where conditions mandate to avoid hassle.
No one at my hearing aid place ever took theirs off thursday except to speak in the microphone for my sound room test. Same with my periodontist and my GP. Maybe that is why I know so very few people who have been dumb enough to catch the china virus ?
I know very few who have cought it without wearing masks this whole time
I know very few who have cought it without wearing masks this whole time
I can’t say I know many ppl at all that were it unless forced
Can’t say as I know many that have had it
Even less so recently
I know a few that had it early on
And maybe 6
That have had it in the last month or so
No one on the last 2 weeks
I can’t say I know many ppl at all that were it unless forced
Can’t say as I know many that have had it
Even less so recently
I know a few that had it early on
And maybe 6
That have had it in the last month or so
No one on the last 2 weeks
First person I know who had it was at my job when it all started He was two feet away from me and another (his son inlaw) we was talking and bsing away next day he tested positive we were fine
That’s been the case over and over and over
I know exactly one family or work place where everyone got it
One family of 4
That had one son get it were very very diligent with his quarantine and over a few days all 4 got it
But that’s the one outlier
I think what’s missing here is no one is acknowledging the shear number of ppl that are going along simply to get along
Doctors and nurses playing the game because they think they have too
sure there are true believers
but so many are just trying to not make waves
last july the hospital charter passing around beers and joints told me as much
They said and I quote
most of us go thru the motions at work but don’t buy it
Surgeons and surgical nurses one and all
"Experience is the most brutal of teachers"
" My doctor said" or " My friends, sisters, son knew someone" doesn't qualify as experience only opinion.
And we know what opinions are worth...........
"Experience is the most brutal of teachers"
" My doctor said" or " My friends, sisters, son knew someone" doesn't qualify as experience only opinion.
And we know what opinions are worth...........
Hell me and Tony/Rick posted facts not opinion You dont seem to want to grasp that
Sick Reptilian Stasi!!
[HEADING=2]Chicago Judge Strips Mother Of Parental Rights For Being Unvaccinated[/HEADING]
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Now, in a terrifying glimpse of what might be in store for parents who refuse to vaccinate their kids, a judge in Cook County Illinois (which includes Chicago and some of the surrounding area) has taken away the parental rights of a woman due to her refusal to get vaccinated.
In what all parties agree is a very unusual and perhaps unprecedented step, a judge at Chicago's Daley Center has stripped Rebecca Firlit of custody due to her refusal to get vaccinated.
"I miss my son more than anything. It's been very difficult. I haven't seen him since Aug. 10," Firlit told a local Fox affiliate station in an interview.
That’s the day Firlit appeared in court via Zoom, accompanied by her ex-husband, for a child support hearing involving her 11-year-old son. The two have been divorced for seven years and share custody and parenting time. Out of the blue, Cook County Judge James Shapiro asked her whether she had been vaccinated. Firlit told Shapiro she didn't get vaccinated because she has had bad reactions to vaccines in the past.
Shapiro then ordered that Firlit be prevented from spending parenting time with her son until she gets vaccinated. Over the past two weeks, Firlit has been able to talk to her son on the phone and through video calls, but has been unable to see him in person.
"I think that it’s wrong. I think that it’s dividing families. And I think it’s not in my son's best interest to be away from his mother," Firlit said.
Firlit is now appealing the court order, saying the judge has no authority to take away her parenting rights over her vaccination status.
"It had nothing to do with what we were talking about. He was placing his views on me. And taking my son away from me," Firlit said.
Her attorney, Annette Fernholz, claimed the judge has overstepped his authority.
"In this case you have a judge, without any matter before him regarding the parenting time with the child deciding 'Oh, you’re not vaccinated. You don't get to see your child until you are vaccinated.' That kind of exceeds his jurisdiction," Fernholz said.
As she explained, the judge is acting completely on his own: Firlit's former husband didn't bring the issue before the court.
"You have to understand the father did not even bring this issue before the court. So it’s the judge on his own and making this decision that you can’t see your child until you’re vaccinated," Fernholz added.
However, the attorney representing Firlit's ex-husband, Jeffrey Leving, says they were also surprised by the judge's decision, but they support the ruling saying that given the pandemic, the child should be protected from an unvaccinated mother.
"There are children who have died because of COVID. I think every child should be safe. And I agree that the mother should be vaccinated," Leving said.
Since the start of the pandemic, fewer than 400 children in the US have died from COVID. In every case, the child had some kind of co-morbidity that dramatically complicated the situation.
The judge didn't respond to a request for comment. But it's worth noting that judges have broad authority, and this likely won't be the first time an American judge brings vaccination issues up during cases where it's not exactly relevant.
Twenty kids go to Chuckie cheese for a party they all wear their masks walking to the table at the table they take them off laugh eat and enjoying being kids. The next day those same kids go to school all in the same room but now they have to wear masks WHY? Did the Chuckie cheese table make them safe?
That’s were your mistaken
real world experience and 1st hand accounts are as real as it gets
Why are you so fast to discount the real world experience of other med pros
Because they disagree with u
get a clue
For some people, It's impossible for them to 'see the forest for the trees'. e.g the bigger picture.
Twenty kids go to Chuckie cheese for a party they all wear their masks walking to the table at the table they take them off laugh eat and enjoying being kids. The next day those same kids go to school all in the same room but now they have to wear masks WHY? Did the Chuckie cheese table make them safe?
Yep! Spot on!
RLMAO!
Here's an analogy you might understand Rick: Your catching Bass using eels during the day. Guy at the dock says "eels only work at night". Do you say anything or just shake your head and walk away.
Here's me shaking my head to your persistently inaccurate comments regarding masks..............
Hate to say it but I can’t relate. I hate fishing at night and I only use Tube and Worm. I sort of mastered it over the years.
But Fauci said they didn’t work.?
There's a BIG difference between the medpro who during the height of the pandemic shut down his practice for months and the pro who was in the trenches.
Big difference between the "essential" worker collecting garbage/driving a bus than the one intubating a 30yr old in respiratory distress.
Like I said many times, science and doctors are not perfect. Things get dangerous when the unqualified try to diagnose and implement policy that has more to do with politics than public health.
I don't care about politics. I care about not having to relive the death and destruction of the spring 2020. Of doing everything in your power and still watching people die.
So if I come across as being insistant its because I feel that getting vaccinated and wearing a mask is much easier than explaining to a wife or a daughter how their dad/husband came in with a cough and left in a body bag.
That's my experience.
The jury is still out on masks. So many useless ones but there are many excellent ones too. if those are the only bullets I have in this fight, I'll use them.
There's a BIG difference between the medpro who during the height of the pandemic shut down his practice for months and the pro who was in the trenches.
Big difference between the "essential" worker collecting garbage/driving a bus than the one intubating a 30yr old in respiratory distress.
Like I said many times, science and doctors are not perfect. Things get dangerous when the unqualified try to diagnose and implement policy that has more to do with politics than public health.
I don't care about politics. I care about not having to relive the death and destruction of the spring 2020. Of doing everything in your power and still watching people die.
So if I come across as being insistant its because I feel that getting vaccinated and wearing a mask is much easier than explaining to a wife or a daughter how their dad/husband came in with a cough and left in a body bag.
That's my experience.
The jury is still out on masks. So many useless ones but there are many excellent ones too. if those are the only bullets I have in this fight, I'll use them.
Funny love your "essential worker"analysis what about the ones working on Drs/Nurses/Emt,s/ Firemen/Cops cars those guys aint essential(in your analysis) but they kept them going to work everyday I worked thru it 6 days a week 12hrs a day dealing with the public like they were ticking time bombs mask free btw was I happy about it NO but I dealt with it guess what Im still here
(y) Good for you!
But that doesn’t count as experiance
cany
that’s just your opinion
of course there are good mask
But no mask or tool is useful used improperly
The mask ppl are using and the way they are used is useless
wear an n95 properly in a dusty environment see then blow your nose
Wear a surgical mask and the useless ness is even more obvious
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