When will some of you ever understand
there is no settled science to be found on this issue
and More than likely will ever be
RLMFAO..............You show your ignorance once again because anyone who knows anything about science will tell you that by nature, science always changes. You claim to be "open minded" and an independent thinker but you truly have no clue.
But hey, keep googling the latest conspiracy theories and posting those maskless photos. LOL
And it’s not the lefts stock in trade
No the extreme left is same chit....unwavering to there mindset.....
LIKE THIS DIPSHIT!!!
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Insulting you is just fun
you have fun your way
I’ll have it my way
10 BUCKS IF YOU CAN FIND AN INSULT i HAVEN'T HEARD IN THE DOZEN YEARS
I’d lose
You’ve been called them all
true...THE Threats via PM in the late evening from the drunks with the beer muscles were the best!!!!!!!
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Monday is doomsday for unvaccinated. In my hospital the edict is you will be terminated on the spot if you are not vaccinated. Where I work that represents 7% of the staff.
I agree that hospital personel should be vaccinated but it's hard to imagine losing your job over a personal choice.
Just got an email from Viking. No one allowed on board without proof of vax AND a test at embarkation. Tony- are the airlines doing anything like that or just to the employees ?
7% - that is probably an average sick day outage. I realize that they are not military (where we had NO choice regardless) but don't they owe it to the patients?
Can the vaxxed be "Typhoid Marys" and spread it to the patients too?
So much "traffic" on the whole thing I have forgotten whether I can spread it !
I agree that hospital personel should be vaccinated but it's hard to imagine losing your job over a personal choice.
I can, these days you can lose your job over not calling someone by their chosen pronoun.
Monday is doomsday for unvaccinated. In my hospital the edict is you will be terminated on the spot if you are not vaccinated. Where I work that represents 7% of the staff.
I agree that hospital personel should be vaccinated but it's hard to imagine losing your job over a personal choice.
Agreed.
And this is known as 'conspiracy theory' becoming 'conspiracy fact.'
One can go back to page 100+- on this thread, where a few here was taking about mandatory shots, vax cards, digital health passes to engage in basic societal functions, enter buildings, work, etc....
Most labeled those commenters as conspiracy theorists ....perhaps now, people are actually seeing what is truly happening, through a wider lens.
This is no longer about health. Full Stop.
This is about tyranny and control. It is part of the playbook outlined in the World Economic forums Great Reset document.
Just got an email from Viking. No one allowed on board without proof of vax AND a test at embarkation. Tony- are the airlines doing anything like that or just to the employees ?
7% - that is probably an average sick day outage. I realize that they are not military (where we had NO choice regardless) but don't they owe it to the patients?
Can the vaxxed be "Typhoid Marys" and spread it to the patients too?
So much "traffic" on the whole thing I have forgotten whether I can spread it !
No airline I know has said anything like that
I believe the entire airline industry is going thru the motions , with some of the employees taking it much more seriously than others
I belive it’s very very possible the vaxed are typhoid mary
Showing little to no symptoms
The couple people I know who were vaccinated AND got puzzling symptoms (loss of taste and smell) had mixed test results, the quick test for china virus being negative, the 48hr test being positive. Then a couple of weeks later (more recently) both got antibody tests. The test for antibodies from contracting the virus was negative (!) but still waiting for the blood test for antibodies from the vaccine (evidently a different test.) Sun Tzu would be proud of the way his descendants have screwed with the enemy.
Edited to add: No one else in their family, adults vaxxed, the kids not, came down with the virus.
These are indeed troubling times.
Yes, the vaccinated can spread the virus hence the mask mandates for all.
This administration has lost ALL control! They have no idea what's going on overseas or domestically!
Is this really only about public health??
I suspect that when there is a lack of teachers in the schools and healthcare professionals in the hospitals, they will rethink the policy and come up with something better. I dont have the answer......
Are we entering the early days of a socialist/communist state!?!
Long read, but this essay is excellent:
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[HEADING=2]The Snake-Oil Salesmen and the COVID-Zero Con: A Classic Bait-And-Switch for a Lifetime of Booster Shots (Immunity as a Service)[/HEADING]
If a plumber with a lifetime of experience were to tell you that water runs uphill, you would know he is lying and that the lie is not accidental. It is a lie with a purpose. If you can also demonstrate that the plumber knows in advance that the product he is promoting with that lie is snake oil, you have evidence for a deliberate con. And once you understand what's really inside that bottle of snake oil, you will begin to understand the purpose of the con.
One of the most common reasons given for mass COVID vaccinations is the idea that if we reach herd immunity through vaccination, we can starve the virus out of existence and get our lives back. It's the COVID-Zero strategy or some variant of it.
By now it is abundantly clear from the epidemiological data that the vaccinated are able to both catch and spread the disease. Clearly vaccination isn't going to make this virus disappear. Only a mind that has lost its grasp on reality can fail to see how ridiculous all this has become.
But a tour through pre-COVID science demonstrates that, from day one, long before you and I had even heard of this virus, it was 100% inevitable and 100% predictable that these vaccines would never be capable of eradicating this coronavirus and would never lead to any kind of lasting herd immunity. Even worse, lockdowns and mass vaccination have created a dangerous set of circumstances that interferes with our immune system's ability to protect us against other respiratory viruses. They also risk driving the evolution of this virus towards mutations that are more dangerous to both the vaccinated and the unvaccinated alike. Lockdowns, mass vaccinations, and mass booster shots were never capable of delivering on any of the promises that were made to the public.
And yet, vaccination has been successfully used to control measles and even to eradicate smallpox. So, why not COVID? Immunity is immunity, and a virus is a virus is a virus, right? Wrong! Reality is far more complicated... and more interesting.
This Deep Dive exposes why, from day one, the promise of COVID-Zero can only ever have been a deliberately dishonest shell game designed to prey on a lack of public understanding of how our immune systems work and on how most respiratory viruses differ from other viruses that we routinely vaccinate against. We have been sold a fantasy designed to rope us into a pharmaceutical dependency as a deceitful trade-off for access to our lives. Variant by variant. For as long as the public is willing to go along for the ride.
Exposing this story does not require incriminating emails or whistleblower testimony. The story tells itself by diving into the long-established science that every single virologist, immunologist, evolutionary biologist, vaccine developer, and public health official had access to long before COVID began. As is so often the case, the devil is hidden in the details. As this story unfolds it will become clear that the one-two punch of lockdowns and the promise of vaccines as an exit strategy began as a cynical marketing ploy to coerce us into a never-ending regimen of annual booster shots intentionally designed to replace the natural "antivirus security updates" against respiratory viruses that come from hugs and handshakes and from children laughing together at school. We are being played for fools.
This is not to say that there aren't plenty of other opportunists taking advantage of this crisis to pursue other agendas and to tip society into a full-blown police state. One thing quickly morphs into another. But this essay demonstrates that never-ending boosters were the initial motive for this global social-engineering shell game ― the subscription-based business model, adapted for the pharmaceutical industry. "Immunity as a service".
So, let's dive into the fascinating world of immune systems, viruses, and vaccines, layer by layer, to dispel the myths and false expectations that have been created by deceitful public health officials, pharmaceutical lobbyists, and media manipulators. What emerges as the lies are peeled apart is both surprising and more than a little alarming.
“Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.” - Sherlock Homes” ― Sir Arthur Conan Doyle
Table of Contents:
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[*][Viral Reservoirs: The Fantasy of Eradication]('https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html#Reservoirs')
[*][SARS: The Exception to the Rule?]('https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html#SARS')
[*][Fast Mutations: The Fantasy of Control through Herd Immunity]('https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html#Mutations')
[*][Blind Faith in Central Planning: The Fantasy of Timely Doses]('https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html#Doses')
[*][Spiked: The Fantasy of Preventing Infection]('https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html#Spiked')
[*][Antibodies, B-Cells, and T-Cells: Why Immunity to Respiratory Viruses Fades So Quickly]('https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html#Immunity')
[*][Manufacturing Dangerous Variants: Virus Mutations Under Lockdown Conditions — Lessons from the 1918 Spanish Flu]('https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html#Variants')
[*][Leaky Vaccines, Antibody-Dependent Enhancement, and the Marek Effect]('https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html#Leaks')
[*][Anti-Virus Security Updates: Cross-Reactive Immunity Through Repeated Exposure]('https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html#Updates')
[][The Not-So-Novel Novel Virus: The Diamond Princess *Cruise Ship Outbreak Proved We Have Cross-Reactive Immunity]('https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html#Novel')
[*][Mother Knows Best: Vitamin D, Playing in Puddles, and Sweaters]('https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html#Mother')
[*][The Paradox: Why COVID-Zero Makes People More Vulnerable to Other Viruses]('https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html#Paradox')
[*][Introducing Immunity as a Service - A Subscription-Based Business Model for the Pharmaceutical Industry (It was always about the money!)]('https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html#Echoes')
[*][The Path Forward: Neutralizing the Threat and Bullet-Proofing Society to Prevent This Ever Happening Again.]('https://www.juliusruechel.com/2021/09/the-snake-oil-salesmen-and-covid-zero.html#Forward')
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Interesting perspective.
While I agree that we over estimated our ability to achieve herd immunity, that pharmaceutical companies (and other BIG corps.) have profited big time and the media has harnessed the publics insatiable appetite for drama and paranoia for ratings.....Everyone has profited from Covid from supermarkets to car dealerships to Lumber yards.......
I STILL feel the vaccine is playing an important role in keeping people out of the hospital.
Keeping me and my family alive........that's the only medical issue that matters to me!
some articles also allude to the vaxxed being able to "fight it off" and thus not becoming a "Typhoid Mary" in the first place, or if they do become infected, asymptomatic or not, will harbor less of those little nasty viruses and therefore be less likely to spread it to others. to each his own. I see more and more venues requiring the vaccination or recent negative test, or even both.
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