Coronavirus

Could vaccine mandates go from bad to worse?

[Is America next? ]('https://fortune.com/2021/12/01/europe-unvaccinated-fines-lockdowns-covid-mandates-america-next/')

Causation is a tricky subject. I guess in some sense, no one dies from heart disease. They die WITH heart disease from a lack of oxygen to the brain. No one dies from cancer, they die with cancer from a lack of oxygen to the brain.
Moreover, a strong argument can be made that heart and cancer care are all a scam to support the multi-billion dollar pharma industry and that only sheep make the leap of faith of taking heart meds, insulin or chemo. Who really know's what's in them anyway.
On the other hand, you can't catch clogged arteries, high blood sugar or cancer from the guy standing next to you on line. so for the sake of protecting the rest of society, at the risk of foregoing a bare minimum of freedom, maybe getting vaxed and reducing the size and velocity of the droplets you breathe out are a leap of faith worth taking.

Causation is a tricky subject. I guess in some sense, no one dies from heart disease. They die WITH heart disease from a lack of oxygen to the brain. No one dies from cancer, they die with cancer from a lack of oxygen to the brain.
Moreover, a strong argument can be made that heart and cancer care are all a scam to support the multi-billion dollar pharma industry and that only sheep make the leap of faith of taking heart meds, insulin or chemo. Who really know's what's in them anyway.
On the other hand, you can't catch clogged arteries, high blood sugar or cancer from the guy standing next to you on line. so for the sake of protecting the rest of society, at the risk of foregoing a bare minimum of freedom, maybe getting vaxed and reducing the size and velocity of the droplets you breathe out are a leap of faith worth taking.

Well stated! Seems to be all or nothing with no room for compromise for some.

Causation is a tricky subject. I guess in some sense, no one dies from heart disease. They die WITH heart disease from a lack of oxygen to the brain. No one dies from cancer, they die with cancer from a lack of oxygen to the brain.
Moreover, a strong argument can be made that heart and cancer care are all a scam to support the multi-billion dollar pharma industry and that only sheep make the leap of faith of taking heart meds, insulin or chemo. Who really know's what's in them anyway.
On the other hand, you can't catch clogged arteries, high blood sugar or cancer from the guy standing next to you on line. so for the sake of protecting the rest of society, at the risk of foregoing a bare minimum of freedom, maybe getting vaxed and reducing the size and velocity of the droplets you breathe out are a leap of faith worth taking.

Now that entire thing is a stretch

Well stated! Seems to be all or nothing with no room for compromise for some.

Wrong again

maybe not the compromise your looking for , it rarely is

but no one is saying don’t get vaxed
Only that it’s their choice

there’s no compromise with my or anyone’s choice

that’s not compromise it’s capitulation

Could vaccine mandates go from bad to worse?

[Is America next?]('https://fortune.com/2021/12/01/europe-unvaccinated-fines-lockdowns-covid-mandates-america-next/')

Could
100 percent will

Moreover, a strong argument can be made that heart and cancer care are all a scam to support the multi-billion dollar pharma industry and that only sheep make the leap of faith of taking heart meds, insulin or chemo. Who really know's what's in them anyway.

On the other hand, you can't catch clogged arteries, high blood sugar or cancer from the guy standing next to you on line. so for the sake of protecting the rest of society, at the risk of foregoing a bare minimum of freedom, maybe getting vaxed and reducing the size and velocity of the droplets you breathe out are a leap of faith worth taking.

"taking heart meds, insulin or chemo. Who really know's what's in them anyway."

We do know whats in them. I understand that was sarcasm. See the bolded section. Those meds and treatments went through rigorous testing over a 5-15 year time frame, where all the efficacy was determined and any contraindications. With the exception ofcourse for novel treatments for people who were terminal.

Same cannot be said for the current vaxx regime for Sars CV2. Zero long term studies. ZERO!

Causation is a tricky subject. I guess in some sense, no one dies from heart disease. They die WITH heart disease from a lack of oxygen to the brain. No one dies from cancer, they die with cancer from a lack of oxygen to the brain.
Moreover, a strong argument can be made that heart and cancer care are all a scam to support the multi-billion dollar pharma industry and that only sheep make the leap of faith of taking heart meds, insulin or chemo. Who really know's what's in them anyway.
On the other hand, you can't catch clogged arteries, high blood sugar or cancer from the guy standing next to you on line. so for the sake of protecting the rest of society, at the risk of foregoing a bare minimum of freedom, maybe getting vaxed and reducing the size and velocity of the droplets you breathe out are a leap of faith worth taking.

"leap of faith of taking heart meds, insulin or chemo. Who really know's what's in them anyway."

We do know whats in them. I understand that was sarcasm. See the bolded section. Those meds and treatments went through rigorous testing over a 5-15 year time frame, where all the efficacy was determined and any contraindications. With the exception ofcourse when they were novel treatments for people who were terminal at the time.

The same cannot be said for the current vaxx regime for Sars CV2. Zero long term studies. ZERO!

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Will b more of the same

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As larger companies here back off their unreasonable demands , because folks here , not you of course. Will not put up with the bullshit
It’s over when we say it’s over and the fat lady is singing , loudly

"leap of faith of taking heart meds, insulin or chemo. Who really know's what's in them anyway."

We do know whats in them. I understand that was sarcasm. See the bolded section. Those meds and treatments went through rigorous testing over a 5-15 year time frame, where all the efficacy was determined and any contraindications. With the exception ofcourse when they were novel treatments for people who were terminal at the time.

The same cannot be said for the current vaxx regime for Sars CV2. Zero long term studies. ZERO!

Your statements are true but I ask you this: How long do you need to know the long term effects and do you believe that you will be told the truth?

From Asbestos to stents to dumping Mercury in the Hudson, companies have a history of giving misleading information.

I can only speak for myself when saying getting vaxxed was a leap of faith. I took it for professional ( I work with transplant patients) and personal reasons(I'm immunocompromised) .

I may be wrong in the long run but there is no tomorrow if I don't get through today. If I were 34 starting a family and not 54 getting ready to retire I might see things differently.

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Got my booster yesterday, mid afternoon. Not feeling too good today and especially now!! o_O

As larger companies here back off their unreasonable demands , because folks here , not you of course. Will not put up with the bullshit
It’s over when we say it’s over and the fat lady is singing , loudly

Companies in blue states may have less choice

Got my booster yesterday, mid afternoon. Not feeling too good today and especially now!! o_O

Been there done that.

Companies in blue states may have less choice

red - blue doesn't matter...................

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red - blue doesn't matter...................

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well, I have no intention of ruining ten years, 5 months and 15 days with that horror called a job. I got jabbed to have another ten years, 5 months and 15 days...

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Your statements are true but I ask you this: How long do you need to know the long term effects and do you believe that you will be told the truth?

From Asbestos to stents to dumping Mercury in the Hudson, companies have a history of giving misleading information.

I can only speak for myself when saying getting vaxxed was a leap of faith. I took it for professional ( I work with transplant patients) and personal reasons(I'm immunocompromised) .

I may be wrong in the long run but there is no tomorrow if I don't get through today. If I were 34 starting a family and not 54 getting ready to retire I might see things

Got my booster yesterday, mid afternoon. Not feeling too good today and especially now!! o_O

I’ve heard from 0 effects to 3 days in bed