Coronavirus

Pay attention to the children
And as you do

remember these words and where you heard them and how you scoffed at them

“ it’s over when we say it’s over”

still taken way longer than I ever imagined it would, the results going to be the same

[HEADING=2]Pennsylvania Doctor Accused of Prescribing Ivermectin for Covid Is Fired[/HEADING]

A Pennsylvania doctor accused of prescribing ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine to treat Covid-19, two drugs that regulators have called not safe for treating the disease, was fired this week, a regional health system said.

The doctor, Edith Behr, who worked for Tower Health, was accused of writing prescriptions for the drugs, which are [not approved for the prevention or treatment of Covid]('https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/21/world/ivermectin-fda-covid-19-treatment.html'), the company said. The health system said it became aware of the allegations against Dr. Behr on Wednesday.

“We investigated the matter and, as a result, Dr. Behr’s employment with Tower Health Medical Group has been terminated effective immediately,” the health system said in a statement on Friday.

Dr. Behr could not be immediately reached for comment on Friday. News of her termination was [reported by PennLive.com]('https://www.pennlive.com/coronavirus/2022/02/doctor-accused-of-mass-prescribing-unproven-covid-19-treatments-fired-by-pa-hospital.html') on Thursday.

Tower Health is a Pennsylvania-based regional health system that consists of several hospitals, including Phoenixville Hospital, about 30 miles northwest of Philadelphia, and Pottstown Hospital. Dr. Behr was on staff at Phoenixville and Pottstown hospitals, according to Tower Health.

She is licensed as a doctor and a surgeon, according to the Pennsylvania Department of State. Tower Health said Dr. Behr had failed to meet the requirements, including consulting patients’ medical histories, for prescribing medications for “off-label” purposes.

The Food and Drug Administration is clear that ivermectin — which is approved for human use [to treat head lice, rosacea and infections caused by some parasitic worms]('https://www.fda.gov/animal-veterinary/product-safety-information/faq-covid-19-and-ivermectin-intended-animals') — should not be used to prevent or treat Covid.

Similarly, the F.D.A. [cautions]('https://www.fda.gov/drugs/drug-safety-and-availability/fda-cautions-against-use-hydroxychloroquine-or-chloroquine-covid-19-outside-hospital-setting-or') that hydroxychloroquine, which is approved to treat or prevent malaria and autoimmune conditions such as rheumatoid arthritis, has not been shown to be safe and effective against Covid.

In May 2020, President Donald J. Trump announced that he had been taking [hydroxychloroquine]('https://www.nytimes.com/article/hydroxychloroquine-coronavirus.html') as a preventive measure for the coronavirus. At the time, the F.D.A. [had warned]('https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/18/us/politics/trump-hydroxychloroquine-covid-coronavirus.html') that the drug could cause serious heart problems for coronavirus patients. (Months later, Mr. Trump was [hospitalized with the coronavirus]('https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/02/us/politics/trump-hospitalized-with-coronavirus.html').)

Using ivermectin for Covid “can be highly dangerous,” [according to the agency]('https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19').

“Currently available data do not show ivermectin is effective against Covid-19,” [the F.D.A. said]('https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/why-you-should-not-use-ivermectin-treat-or-prevent-covid-19'). “Clinical trials assessing ivermectin tablets for the prevention or treatment of Covid-19 in people are ongoing.”

In its statement, Tower Health said it “encourages all eligible individuals to get vaccinated against Covid-19 and to practice appropriate masking and social distancing.”

The company added, “We will continue to follow recommendations from the F.D.A., C.D.C., and other health authorities in the treatment of the Covid-19 virus.”

Tar and Feather !! Drawn and quartered !!

Here’s the thing with the mask

Just as we knew 2 years ago once they got ppl to wear them they would never come off

They now know that once they come off
Ppl will never put them back on

That’s the thing with stupid policies
Fool ppl once Shame on you
They won’t easily be fooled again

Just throw those free tests in the trash....

What a perfect example of how bad the current administration has handled even the simplest of important situations for the people.

the test kits were/are from China anyway, no ?

the test kits were/are from China anyway, no ?

so are the ones that I bought from CVS..

BTW - most insurances companies will cover the cost of the tests - United Healthcare picks up the cost for 6 per month

I recall reading that Medicare is going to start picking up the cost next month. I don't recall if you needed to have Medicare Part A for them to do that. I think that's the Part that covers prescriptions.
My former employer (Estee Lauder) covers my prescriptionss & acts as my supplemental insurance free of cost for life so I don't have prescription coverage under Medicare.

So far the BCBS I pay for out of my federal pension picks up much of our prescription costs which are thankfully low so far as we age. I also did not purchase prescription coverage from either Medicare or Tricare for Life. I am going to wait to submit for reimbursement from BCBS for the test kits my son picked up for us (on our dime of course lol) since I want to make sure our annual deductibles are covered by our doctors submitting over the next couple of months to Medicare Part B, then to BCBS, then to Tricare for Life, otherwise the twenty or forty bucks would just be "thrown away."

Just throw those free tests in the trash....

I don't know how these "experts" can make the generalization that freezing will reduce the accuracy of these tests in that there is no hard and fast rule that a few freeze/thaw cycles will always hurt these type of tests. It really depends on the individual test's EXACT formulation and that's a fact from 37 years of experience with In Vitro Diagnostics.

I'd hazard a guess that the folks quoted here have never developed and brought a commercial lateral flow antigen diagnostic test in their careers. I've run into products where we actually improved their performance by doing a freeze before shipping, and many products are shipped on dry ice.

Is it optimal for them to get frozen? Without specific data NO, but you can't generalize things and say a freeze hurts their sensitivity.

I don't know how these "experts" can make the generalization that freezing will reduce the accuracy of these tests in that there is no hard and fast rule that a few freeze/thaw cycles will always hurt these type of tests. It really depends on the individual test's EXACT formulation and that's a fact from 37 years of experience with In Vitro Diagnostics.

I'd hazard a guess that the folks quoted here have never developed and brought a commercial lateral flow antigen diagnostic test in their careers. I've run into products where we actually improved their performance by doing a freeze before shipping, and many products are shipped on dry ice.

Is it optimal for them to get frozen? Without specific data NO, but you can't generalize things and say a freeze hurts their sensitivity.

That’s what we need at this point
More maybes

news flash two years in ppl are tired and fed up with the in the know crowd
Being wrong and then falling back on maybe

no one cares if you’ve brought 100k test to market or worked on 100 shots n pills
You still don’t know crap about covid and have to date been wrong at every turn

I’m case you have not gotten the memo we aren’t your lab rats

Borrowed from one of my favorite shooting websites:

The COVID quacks were wrong about everything. Let’s take a quick trip through their latest blunders, shall we?

They were wrong about masks. They finally admitted the cloth masks they’d been telling everybody to wear for two years are worthless and everybody should wear [N95]('https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/01/10/cdc-weighs-n95-kn95-masks-guidance-omicron/') masks. They’re wrong about that, too. N95 masks [cause]('https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2022/02/just-facts-video-what-they-arent-telling-you-about-frontpagemagcom/') higher carbon dioxide levels, cognitive impairment, headaches, cardio-pulmonary stress, and even fatal heart attacks.

They were wrong about the definition of COVID deaths. Public health authorities have routinely inflated the numbers by including people who die from other causes but happen to test positive for COVID. The CDC finally [admitted]('https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/07/biden-covid-hospitalization-data-recalculate-00006341') maybe that wasn’t a good idea and they really should separate out the number who are hospitalized for other reasons and test positive after being admitted for something else. We’ve been jumping up and down about this for two years and we were right.

They were wrong about lockdowns. Twenty-four [studies]('https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/covid19-studies-lockdowns-mandates/2022/02/01/id/1055079/') now show lockdowns “have had little to no public health effects, [but] have imposed enormous economic and social costs where they have been adopted.”

They were wrong about mandates and are now back-pedaling in Illinois, New York, three Canadian provinces, and Sweden. [Just the News]('https://justthenews.com/world/canada/three-canadian-provinces-plan-rollback-covid-mandates-trucker-protest-continues') [NBC-5 Chicago]('https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/sources-pritzker-to-announce-phased-removal-of-states-indoor-mask-mandate/2753341/') [Reuters]('https://www.reuters.com/world/us/new-york-state-drop-indoor-mask-mandate-this-week-nyt-2022-02-09/') [AP]('https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-business-health-stockholm-europe-4a3171e442c019212a66c58bcfbf0e12') The Democrats in control of Virginia’s state senate just [voted]('https://www.wric.com/news/politics/capitol-connection/virginia-senate-passes-bill-to-make-masks-optional-in-schools/') to make masks optional in school. Why is this happening now? As Florida’s Governor Ron DeSantis put it, the medical science didn’t change, but the political science has. Government officials now realize they’ve taken this COVID mandate thing just about as far as it will go. People aren’t putting up with mandates anymore. The mandates are becoming more unpopular by the day and the Democrats in control of places like Illinois and New York can see the November elections barreling down the tracks at them like a freight train.

The quacks were wrong about natural immunity. They tried to argue people who caught COVID did not develop natural immunity to the disease. The CDC now [admits]('https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/coronavirus/cdc-reports-show-natural-immunity-worked-better-vaccine-against-covids') there is natural immunity and it actually works better than the vaccines.

They were wrong about COVID vaccines stopping transmission of disease. The director of the CDC later admitted the vaccines do not [prevent]('https://dailycaller.com/2022/01/10/cdc-director-rochelle-walensky-vaccine-cant-stop-transmission-anymore/') transmission. You can be vaccinated and still pass the virus to other people.

They were wrong about how susceptible kids are to the disease. Zeke Emanuel claimed unvaccinated kids are in danger of contracting the virus and getting a “serious condition of Omicron.” When his argument was demolished, he [claimed]('https://www.mrctv.org/blog/death-panel-architect-abortion-pusher-ezekiel-emanuel-apologizes-flagrant-falsehood-re-covid19') he “misspoke”. Sure.

They were wrong to ignore vitamin D. The information has been out there for a long time, but public health authorities ignored it. Now, a study [validates]('https://www.theepochtimes.com/vitamin-d-deficiency-linked-to-severe-deadly-covid-19-study_4256464.html') vitamin D deficiency makes people 14 times more susceptible to serious COVID and to die from the disease.

Fauci was wrong and flip-flopped on masks, on whether the vaccinated should wear masks, on whether kids should be in school, and on how much people should interact with each other during the pandemic. Ron DeSantis put the flip-flops in a [campaign ad]('https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/watch-desantis-goes-after-fauci-in-new-campaign-ad') and Fauci comes off looking like an idiot, because he is.

So, they were wrong about masks, COVID deaths, lockdowns, mandates, natural immunity and lots of other things. What else are they wrong about, hmm? Vaccine safety, maybe? They keep saying the COVID vaccines are safe, but over 23,000 Americans have [died]('https://openvaers.com/covid-data') within 14 days of being vaccinated, so far. Where are the government safety studies that are supposed to be done when a vaccine disaster strikes? What has the government decided about doing such studies? I’m trying to find out. I filed a Freedom of Information Act request with the CDC for this information. First, they delayed, saying my request was ‘complex’, but now they’ve put it in the ordinary queue. What does that really mean? Does it mean they’ll take 75 years to answer like the FDA tried to do in another COVID vaccine FOIA case recently? I’m not willing to wait 75 years. I will soon take steps to speed things up and put my request under court supervision. Stay tuned.

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Now, more on the grassy knoll...**

That above piece is so full of holes it makes a screen door on a submarine look watertight, and I didn't get past the second paragraph...

Of course you didn't, lol.

That’s what we need at this point
More maybes

news flash two years in ppl are tired and fed up with the in the know crowd
Being wrong and then falling back on maybe

no one cares if you’ve brought 100k test to market or worked on 100 shots n pills
You still don’t know crap about covid and have to date been wrong at every turn

I’m case you have not gotten the memo we aren’t your lab rats

So Tony, would you care to add your expertise and experience in the development and manufacture of diagnostic tests? I'm sure that you'll claim to have extensive personal experience there.

I do recall you telling us all about the Antibody Assay and how your doctor was going to provide you an absolute number for your test result, even though the test is reported out of the instrument that runs it as either "NEGATIVE" or "POSITIVE". You swore and even doubled down and said you'd get a numeric value from your physician.

We're still waiting for that value...

I don't know how these "experts" can make the generalization that freezing will reduce the accuracy of these tests in that there is no hard and fast rule that a few freeze/thaw cycles will always hurt these type of tests. It really depends on the individual test's EXACT formulation and that's a fact from 37 years of experience with In Vitro Diagnostics.

I'd hazard a guess that the folks quoted here have never developed and brought a commercial lateral flow antigen diagnostic test in their careers. I've run into products where we actually improved their performance by doing a freeze before shipping, and many products are shipped on dry ice.

Is it optimal for them to get frozen? Without specific data NO, but you can't generalize things and say a freeze hurts their sensitivity.

LOL, I'm pretty sure the warning on the bottom left is there for a reason.

Yes I know you bring that up all the time
Congrats
I’ve been wrong once in this as I miss understood what my dr said you win the pony
And you and your elite scientific community have been wrong well about every second of every day

you’ve spouted bullshit and inconsistencies since day one
Couched it on your education, expertise and all manner of bull crap and have missed the mark

go back to your science thread
That one gets lots of attention
Roflmao

LOL, I'm pretty sure the warning on the bottom left is there for a reason.

Never said there weren't warnings. What I said is that the folks in the blurb you cited have no basis for their comments unless they were talking with specific knowledge with a specific assay, especially the Epidemiologist since they never get a course in "Immunoassay 101". At least the pathologist may have some knowledge...

And by the way, no specific knowledge necessary, but if the lowest temperature any diagnostic test kit sustained was actually 1°C, they would be absolutely fine. AAMOF, I doubt there's a single liquid reagent out there that actually freezes at 0°C because just about all of them are salt solutions and don't freeze until temps are well below 0°C. It's the freeze/thaw cycle that may do the damage...

HEAT is the biggest enemy of an assay's sensitivity. I'm generalizing here, but I'd prefer to receive an assay kit that was frozen rather one that sat in a delivery van all day on 95°F summer day. I'd have no qualms running and trusting the results of the former than the latter.

Now all that said, the idea of mailing out 100s of millions of test kits was truly inane. I wonder how many people will actually read and comprehend the directions well enough to run a reputable assay? Yes, the assays have built in procedural controls that tell you if you ran it correctly AND if the reagents were working, so there's some "Freeze Performance Protection", BUT the procedural control does not tell you if you swabbed yourself correctly, and THAT is the biggest problem with any home test. A poorly obtained sample will give poor sensitivity...

Yes I know you bring that up all the time
Congrats
I’ve been wrong once in this as I miss understood what my dr said you win the pony

Was just waiting for you to finally admit you were wrong. I’ll never mention it again..

Yes I know you bring that up all the time
Congrats
I’ve been wrong once in this as I miss understood what my dr said you win the pony
And you and your elite scientific community have been wrong well about every second of every day

you’ve spouted bullshit and inconsistencies since day one
Couched it on your education, expertise and all manner of bull crap and have missed the mark

go back to your science thread
That one gets lots of attention
Roflmao

I put an apostrophe once in the wrong place once. Man oh man you’d think I just fragged his boat.