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Avenger
Avengernoreaster.com2022#9241

Amazing

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I like.how these d-bags manipulate language. "There are no studies..."

Not "Studies indicate...."

Why would there have been studies before constant mask wearing became a thing?

Chrome warns this may be a phishing site. Well, Duh,... Stupid jerks can't even spell fishing right.
CaptainOriginal Crew3,431 postsSince 2019
dsedy
dsedyFREE2022#9242

NY state abruptly cancelled the booster mandate for healthcare workers. NOT based on science but staffing issues.

Leadership at its finest!

LOl...you think that science ever played into this?

CommodoreOriginal Crew5,100 postsSince 2019
cany
canyCOMMUNITYnoreaster.com2022#9243

25% of staff........there about.

Guess that was enough cant have under staffed hospitals

General cany, Watching always Watching
CornField
AdmiralOriginal Crew41,107 postsSince 2018
dsedy
dsedyFREE2022#9244

It is about power and control...health safety is the mechanism to get you to submit...on, off, on , off 4th booster, 5,6,7,8.9

slaves. thats the goal of the elite for everyone.

CommodoreOriginal Crew5,100 postsSince 2019
cany
canyCOMMUNITYnoreaster.com2022#9245

It is about power and control...health safety is the mechanism to get you to submit...on, off, on , off 4th booster, 5,6,7,8.9

slaves. thats the goal of the elite for everyone.

Well that went to hell with thew health care workers holding out on the booster Good for them

General cany, Watching always Watching
CornField
AdmiralOriginal Crew41,107 postsSince 2018
dsedy
dsedyFREE2022#9246

Well that went to hell with thew health care workers holding out on the booster Good for them

agreed bro

CommodoreOriginal Crew5,100 postsSince 2019
dsedy
dsedyFREE2022#9247

but big picture shit ......

CommodoreOriginal Crew5,100 postsSince 2019
Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2022#9248

Sheesh, I was furious with the CDC already, now I'm just apoplectic!! I'm especially furious with their another reason is fear that the information might be misinterpreted comment which might have been OK, if there wasn't so much pressure on CDC to have individual States come up with mandates, etc. It's disingenuous NOT to provide all the data if you're putting the onus on the States.

Just totally, friggin disgusted here and hoping for a huge ruckus over this. BTW, this is an NY Times article, so those of you that don't' normally trust them as a reliable news source, may want to reconsider that.

Damn, I've fired people for far less lapses in data reporting than this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[HEADING=2]The C.D.C. Isn’t Publishing Large Portions of the Covid Data It Collects[/HEADING]
The agency has withheld critical data on boosters, hospitalizations and, until recently, wastewater analyses.

For more than a year, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has collected data on hospitalizations for Covid-19 in the United States and broken it down by age, race and vaccination status. But it has not made most of the information public.

When the C.D.C. published the first significant data on the effectiveness of boosters in adults younger than 65 two weeks ago, it [left out the numbers for a huge portion of that population:]('https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/health/covid-boosters-older-younger.html') 18- to 49-year-olds, the group least likely to benefit from extra shots, because the first two doses already left them well-protected.

The agency recently debuted a dashboard of [wastewater data]('https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/world/cdc-wastewater-covid.html') on its website that will be updated daily and might provide early signals of an oncoming surge of Covid cases. Some states and localities had been sharing wastewater information with the agency since the start of the pandemic, but it had never before released those findings.

Two full years into the pandemic, the agency leading the country’s response to the public health emergency has published only a tiny fraction of the data it has collected, several people familiar with the data said.

Much of the withheld information could help state and local health officials better target their efforts to bring the virus under control. Detailed, timely data on hospitalizations by age and race would help health officials identify and help the populations at highest risk. Information on hospitalizations and death by age and vaccination status would have helped inform whether healthy adults needed booster shots. And wastewater surveillance across the nation would spot outbreaks and emerging variants early.

Without the booster data for 18- to 49-year-olds, the outside experts whom federal health agencies look to for advice had to rely on numbers from Israel to make their recommendations on the shots.

Kristen Nordlund, a spokeswoman for the C.D.C., said the agency has been slow to release the different streams of data “because basically, at the end of the day, it’s not yet ready for prime time.” She said the agency’s “priority when gathering any data is to ensure that it’s accurate and actionable.”

Another reason is fear that the information might be misinterpreted, Ms. Nordlund said.

Dr. Daniel Jernigan, the agency’s deputy director for public health science and surveillance said the pandemic exposed the fact that data systems at the C.D.C., and at the state levels, are outmoded and not up to handling large volumes of data. C.D.C. scientists are trying to modernize the systems, he said.

“We want better, faster data that can lead to decision making and actions at all levels of public health, that can help us eliminate the lag in data that has held us back,” he added.

The C.D.C. also has multiple bureaucratic divisions that must sign off on important publications, and its officials must alert the Department of Health and Human Services — which oversees the agency — and the White House of their plans. The agency often shares data with states and partners before making data public. Those steps can add delays.

“The C.D.C. is a political organization as much as it is a public health organization,” said Samuel Scarpino, managing director of pathogen surveillance at the Rockefeller Foundation’s Pandemic Prevention Institute. “The steps that it takes to get something like this released are often well outside of the control of many of the scientists that work at the C.D.C.”

The performance of vaccines and boosters, particularly in younger adults, is among the most glaring omissions in data the C.D.C. has made public.

Last year, the agency repeatedly came under fire for [not tracking so-called breakthrough infections]('https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/25/health/cdc-coronavirus-infections-vaccine.html') in vaccinated Americans, and focusing only on individuals who became ill enough to be hospitalized or die. The agency presented that information as risk comparisons with unvaccinated adults, rather than provide timely snapshots of hospitalized patients stratified by age, sex, race and vaccination status.

But the C.D.C. has been routinely collecting information since the Covid vaccines were first rolled out last year, according to a federal official familiar with the effort. The agency has been reluctant to make those figures public, the official said, because they might be misinterpreted as the vaccines being ineffective.

Ms. Nordlund confirmed that as one of the reasons. Another reason, she said, is that the data represents only 10 percent of the population of the United States. But the C.D.C. has relied on the same level of sampling to track influenza for years.

Some outside public health experts were stunned to hear that information exists.

“We have been begging for that sort of granularity of data for two years,” said Jessica Malaty Rivera, an epidemiologist and part of the team that ran Covid Tracking Project, an independent effort that compiled data on the pandemic till March 2021.

A detailed analysis, she said, “builds public trust, and it paints a much clearer picture of what’s actually going on.”

Concern about the misinterpretation of hospitalization data broken down by vaccination status is not unique to the C.D.C. On Thursday, public health officials in Scotland said they would stop releasing data on Covid hospitalizations and deaths by vaccination status because of similar fears that the figures would be misrepresented by anti-vaccine groups.

Shall I go to heaven or a-fishing? - H. D. Thoreau
Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,717 postsSince 2018
dsedy
dsedyFREE2022#9249

Cry yourself a river Dom..

Sheesh, I was furious with the CDC already, now I'm just apoplectic!! I'm especially furious with their another reason is fear that the information might be misinterpreted comment which might have been OK, if there wasn't so much pressure on CDC to have individual States come up with mandates, etc. It's disingenuous NOT to provide all the data if you're putting the onus on the States.

CommodoreOriginal Crew5,100 postsSince 2019
cany
canyCOMMUNITYnoreaster.com2022#9250

Cry yourself a river Dom..

Sheesh, I was furious with the CDC already, now I'm just apoplectic!! I'm especially furious with their another reason is fear that the information might be misinterpreted comment which might have been OK, if there wasn't so much pressure on CDC to have individual States come up with mandates, etc. It's disingenuous NOT to provide all the data if you're putting the onus on the States.

It was a shit show from the get go

General cany, Watching always Watching
CornField
AdmiralOriginal Crew41,107 postsSince 2018
dsedy
dsedyFREE2022#9251

It was a shit show from the get go

Agreed. I am not one to hammer anyone when they are down, or on the wrong side. Just busting chops. :) Cany

CommodoreOriginal Crew5,100 postsSince 2019
JackPrintMD

I guess its all over, Ive been invited to several parties already, out to dinner with people and to work events all over the tri-state area.

Go fuck ya self…… Ive survived without you for 2 1/2yrs.

I got new friends , clients and even Family members now.

Live and Let Fish
Good things come to those who bait.
CommodoreOriginal Crew16,182 postsSince 2018
OVERBORED

Not amazing. totally predictable. these f'in cocksuckers....scientists, bureaucrats, technocrats, all drunk on power should be drawn and quartered. And every other asshat sheep in the populace that went along and believes in their bS.

Some very smart scientists gave sound guidance to both administrations. Problem was the disconnect between science and politics which has only gotten worse.

"Chance only favors the prepared mind" - Pasteur
Captain4,161 postsSince 2021
Rick67
Rick67FREE2022#9254

[CDC Blasted After Withholding Data Over Fears Of Vax Appearing Ineffective | The Daily Wire]("https://www.dailywire.com/news/cdc-blasted-after-withholding-data-over-fears-of-vax-appearing-ineffective?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro&fbclid=IwAR3-7SpSnsnZkDfwkOffgNzVePwk2HgZ5CUdEsmAk60cjkmt8wvSUaYvTjw")

KFA-NY BOD.
Yellow Eyed Devils.
Yak Pack.
CommodoreOriginal Crew6,097 postsSince 2019
movetheboat

Not surprised

not from the "daily wire" anyway........

CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018
Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2022#9257

[CDC Blasted After Withholding Data Over Fears Of Vax Appearing Ineffective | The Daily Wire]('https://www.dailywire.com/news/cdc-blasted-after-withholding-data-over-fears-of-vax-appearing-ineffective?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=benshapiro&fbclid=IwAR3-7SpSnsnZkDfwkOffgNzVePwk2HgZ5CUdEsmAk60cjkmt8wvSUaYvTjw')

not from the "daily wire" anyway........

not from the "daily wire" anyway........

I "broke" this story a page or two ago, and it was from the NYTimes. Surprised it took this long for Journalism Hallmarks like The Daily Wire to "woke" up on it...

Of course, in CDC's extremely flimsy, if not non-existent, defense, one of their rationales was reporting the data could have misrepresentative articles publish.

IMO, that decision is not CDC's call, but a huge declaration of how the US Educational System has failed to nurture cognitive thinking, resulting in ovine habits on both sides of an issue...

And to me, "Aye, there's the rub" in that I cannot make educated decisions/evaluations on a topic if I don't have all the data. As a more eloquent colleague of mine once observed, "You can't make chicken salad out of chicken chit"...

Shall I go to heaven or a-fishing? - H. D. Thoreau
Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,717 postsSince 2018
Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2022#9258

SMFH. I signed up for my free Federal COVID Ag Tests the day before the supposed launch date back on Jan 19 and hadn't received them by last week when Maine advertised free tests also, which I also registered for.

Well on Tuesday, both the Federal and State kits arrived, just in time to sit in inventory to hopefully expire, unless another variant-induced wave kicks in...

Shall I go to heaven or a-fishing? - H. D. Thoreau
Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
AdmiralOriginal Crew21,717 postsSince 2018
TonySmjc

Two years in , in what seem to be the waining days of the vid
Sinus headache
Fever
Muscle aches
Runny nose
Last night
Gone this morning

but the survey says

Two lines congratulations your pregnant
And cvs confirmed it

guess I’m stuck in Florida a few extra days

Captain1,857 postsSince 2020
movetheboat

congratulations...who's the pappy?

CommodoreOriginal Crew12,530 postsSince 2018

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