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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2023#9941

the latest version of covid attacks the back

Is an extremely different claim from the symptom of muscle aches including lower back muscle pain during an XBB.1.5 infection. Your post is a statement that the new variant of the COVID virus specifically attacks cells somewhere in the back (WRONG) and is a defining aspect of this new variant (WRONG).

That's totally different from Muscle Aches seen in infected patients, which is a very common symptom of ALL COVID variants, as you've mentioned the ensuing posts above. This has nothing to do specifically with the XBB.1.5 COVID Variant, and is common to many other viruses including the flu.

BTW, in case anyone is interested: When you have the flu, a common cold, a virus or a bacterial infection, your immune system jumps into action. It reacts by releasing white blood cells to fight off the infection. The reaction causes inflammation, which can leave your muscles feeling achy.

So once again, your original post is patently false, containing absolutely no informational value, and it took being called out for you to clarify what you meant.

Love - Albert...

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movetheboat

I don't accept your apology!!!

your interpretation of my post is wrong......you are trying to save face.

Good day to you sir!!!

NEXT!!

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pequa1
pequa1MODnoreaster.com2023#9943

I guess it is just a mere coincidence that the chinese lifted travel restrictions late last month...they simply like to share.
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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2023#9944

your interpretation of my post is wrong......

No, interpretation, it's just strict adherence to reading comprehension. You said the new strain "ATTACKS THE BACK" with no mention of muscle aches or the fact many, many maladies give muscle pain.

No apology from me. I searched the medical literature with "Does XBB.1.5 attack the back" and it came up with Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah. Just using your EXACT WORDS, which are wrong, period.

You should apologize for either poor proofreading skills/reading comprehension or purposely trying to incite sensationalism. We don't need anymore BS on this thread and I would expect better from you.

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movetheboat

I understand and appreciate you holding me to a higher standard than the average deficient NYA. On that note I will reconsider your apology good sir.

MTB PH.D.

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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2023#9946

I understand and appreciate you holding me to a higher standard than the average deficient NYA. On that note I will reconsider your apology good sir.

MTB PH.D.

I'm not a mind reader so I hold folks to what they post because these are the only data I have to evaluate.

Yeah, data is plural, datum is the singular, little known fact...

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movetheboat

Yeah, data is plural, datum is the singular, little known fact...

I knew that too!!! damn!

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jpd
jpdMODnoreaster.com2023#9948

[URL unfurl="true"]https://nypost.com/2023/01/09/90-percent-of-people-in-henan-province-china-have-covid/[/URL]

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movetheboat

[HEADING=2]China reopens borders in final farewell to zero-COVID[/HEADING]
By [Joyce Zhou]('https://www.reuters.com/authors/joyce-zhou/')
and [Yew Lun Tian]('https://www.reuters.com/authors/yew-lun-tian/')
HONG KONG/BEIJING, Jan 8 (Reuters) - Travellers streamed into China by air, land and sea on Sunday, many eager for long-awaited reunions, as Beijing opened borders that have been all but shut since the start of the COVID-19 pandemic.
After three years, mainland China opened sea and land [crossings]('https://www.reuters.com/world/china/china-reopen-borders-including-with-hong-kong-after-3-years-2023-01-06/') with Hong Kong and ended a requirement for incoming travellers to quarantine, dismantling a final pillar of a zero-COVID policy that had shielded China's 1.4 billion people from the virus but also cut them off from the rest of the world.

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cany
canyCOMMUNITYnoreaster.com2023#9950

[URL unfurl="true"]https://nypost.com/2023/01/09/90-percent-of-people-in-henan-province-china-have-covid/[/URL]

A chiropractors dream

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CornField
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OVERBORED

[Giving sceptics more reason to doubt the efficacy of the booster shot]('http://FDA vaccine advisers ‘disappointed’ and ‘angry’ that early data about new Covid-19 booster shot wasn’t presented for review last year https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/11/health/moderna-bivalent-transparency/index.html')

"Chance only favors the prepared mind" - Pasteur
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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2023#9952

[Giving sceptics more reason to doubt the efficacy of the booster shot]('http://FDA vaccine advisers ‘disappointed’ and ‘angry’ that early data about new Covid-19 booster shot wasn’t presented for review last year https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/11/health/moderna-bivalent-transparency/index.html')

Got a working link?

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Rick67
Rick67FREE2023#9953

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Rick67
Rick67FREE2023#9954

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cany
canyCOMMUNITYnoreaster.com2023#9955

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Well thats not good

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CornField
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[Working link ]('http://FDA vaccine advisers ‘disappointed’ and ‘angry’ that early data about new Covid-19 booster shot wasn’t presented for review last year https://www.cnn.com/2023/01/11/health/moderna-bivalent-transparency/index.html')

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movetheboat

Fact-checking for your wellness and convenience.

Rumor: The COVID vaccine causes strokes.

Truth: Close but not quite. Both the [vaccine]('https://www.cardiff.ac.uk/news/view/2589446-scientists-may-have-solved-an-important-part-of-the-mystery-of-ultra-rare-blood-clots-linked-to-adenovirus-covid-19-vaccines') and the [virus]('https://today.uconn.edu/2022/01/covid-is-not-just-a-respiratory-illness-it-can-cause-strokes-too/') can trigger an immune response that, in extremely rare cases, can [stimulate]('https://today.uconn.edu/2022/01/covid-is-not-just-a-respiratory-illness-it-can-cause-strokes-too/') dangerous [blood clotting]('https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/what-does-covid-do-to-your-blood'), leading to strokes that can be fatal. This occurs [far more frequently]('https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/71/wr/mm7114e1.htm') after an infection vs a vaccination.

If you’re concerned about strokes, your best defense is being vaccinated. “The COVID-19 vaccine definitely can help reduce the risk of a debilitating stroke,” the [Stroke Foundation]('https://thestrokefoundation.org/home/about-us/') said in a recent announcement urging people to protect themselves after [sobering research]('https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/456596/covid-19-vaccine-reduces-stroke-risk-stroke-foundation') linked the virus to dangerous blood clots. “The fact is, the more severe case you have of COVID, the more likely you are to have a stroke,” they said.

Learn more at thestrokefoundation.org or reach out with your questions, comments, rumors and anecdotes to: [EMAIL='editor@nwlocalpaper.com']editor@nwlocalpaper.com[/EMAIL]

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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2023#9958

[HEADING=2][SIZE=7]China Reports Nearly 60,000 Covid-Linked Deaths Since Lifting Restrictions[/SIZE][/HEADING]
The unexpected disclosure was made as the country faces mounting criticism for providing unreliable data on its latest coronavirus outbreak.

China said on Saturday that it had recorded nearly 60,000 fatalities linked to the coronavirus in the month since the country [lifted its strict “zero Covid” policy]('https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/07/world/asia/china-zero-covid-protests.html'), accelerating an outbreak that is believed to have infected millions of people. The disclosure was the first time China has provided an official measure of the Covid wave now sweeping the country, and represents a huge spike in the official death toll.

Until Saturday, China had reported a total of just 5,241 Covid deaths since the pandemic began in the city of Wuhan in late 2019. That measure was narrowly defined as deaths from pneumonia or respiratory failure caused by Covid. The new figure released Saturday included those who had Covid, but died from other underlying illnesses.

China has faced mounting criticism from other countries and from the World Health Organization for not providing reliable data about the extent of its Covid outbreak and about the number of deaths across the country despite widespread scenes of [overflowing hospitals]('https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/10/world/asia/china-covid-shanghai-photos.html?searchResultPosition=4'), morgues and funeral homes in recent weeks.
Before the announcement, China said that only 37 people had died of Covid since Dec. 7, the day it ended its “zero Covid” policy.

The lack of transparency prompted several countries, including Japan and South Korea, to impose travel curbs on Chinese visitors after [China reopened its borders]('https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/08/world/asia/china-borders-covid.html?searchResultPosition=6') last Sunday. Experts also warned that playing down the severity of the outbreak could lead people within the country to take fewer precautions.

China recorded 59,938 Covid-related deaths from Dec. 8 to Jan. 12, Jiao Yahui, an official with China’s National Health Commission, said at a news conference in Beijing. That figure included 5,503 people who died of respiratory failure directly caused by Covid. Another 54,435 fatalities were linked to other underlying illnesses, Ms. Jiao said.

Ms. Jiao said China was unable to release the data on Covid-related deaths sooner because it required a comprehensive examination of hospital reporting.

“We organized experts to conduct a systematic analysis on the death cases, so it took a long time,” Ms. Jiao said.

It was unclear whether the new figures mean that China has changed [the way it discloses Covid deaths]('https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/23/world/asia/china-covid-death-toll.html') to include people with underlying diseases whose conditions were worsened by the virus. Officials have maintained that China’s official toll counts only those who died from pneumonia or respiratory failure caused by Covid. Other countries, such as the United States and Britain, count Covid deaths more broadly.

Experts said it was too soon to determine whether China had changed tack, but they welcomed the move to provide more data.

“We cannot make a judgment now, but it is obviously more reliable than the previous data saying there were only several deaths,” said Jin Dongyan, a virologist at the University of Hong Kong. “I hope the government will be more transparent now.”

China has narrowly counted deaths from infectious diseases for a long time, including SARS in 2003 and seasonal flu. But during the Shanghai lockdown in the spring of 2022, the authorities made an exception and used a looser definition to justify the lengthy confinement of residents. Of the 588 Covid deaths the Shanghai city government reported at that time, one was ascribed to a heart attack, and the rest to “underlying conditions” or “tumors.” Despite this inconsistency, the National Health Commission has never expunged those deaths from the national toll on Covid deaths.

Ben Cowling, an epidemiologist at the University of Hong Kong, said the actual death toll in China, like that in every country, was almost certainly higher. He said that China could have provided more reliable data on death and infection rates if it had tested hospital patients more vigorously.

“The one thing which is a bit surprising is that China has so much testing capacity but hasn’t been using it to confirm Covid in hospitalized patients,” Mr. Cowling said.

The National Health Commission’s data confirmed longstanding fears that China’s older population would be hit hard by an outbreak because so many did not receive enough vaccine doses. Of the nearly 60,000 fatalities, 56.5 percent involved someone at least 80 years old.

Covid deaths are a particularly sensitive political issue in China, because Xi Jinping, the country’s top leader, had championed a strategy of harsh lockdowns, quarantines and mass testing to try to contain the virus. Mr. Xi boasted that the model could be adopted by other countries after it proved successful in suppressing transmission early in the pandemic.

As the highly infectious Omicron variant picked up steam last year, however, that strategy became untenable. As cases steadily rose across the country, [protests erupted in November]('https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/26/world/asia/china-protests-covid.html') as more people grew weary of the Covid restrictions. Already under major economic strain, China then abruptly reversed its “zero Covid” policy without providing an opportunity for the country to stock up on medicine.

Officials have said in recent days that infections have peaked in major cities, though concern is growing about how the current coronavirus wave will [affect the nation’s countryside]('https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/06/world/asia/china-covid-rural-villages-countryside.html?searchResultPosition=8'), which has a far weaker health care system compared with China’s cities.

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pequa1
pequa1MODnoreaster.com2023#9959

Meh. We allegedly have had a million since the virus "escaped" from China.

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dsedy
dsedyFREE2023#9960

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/cdc-says-stroke-concerns-over-pfizer-jab-warrant-investigation[/URL]

"Following the availability and use of the updated (bivalent) COVID-19 vaccines, CDC’s Vaccine Safety Datalink (VSD), a near real-time surveillance system, met the statistical criteria to prompt additional investigation into whether there was a safety concern for ischemic stroke in people ages 65 and older who received the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, Bivalent," reads a Friday [statement]('https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/bivalent-boosters.html').

"Rapid-response investigation of the signal in the VSD raised a question of whether people 65 and older who have received the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine, Bivalent were more likely to have an ischemic stroke in the 21 days following vaccination compared with days 22-44 following vaccination," the release continues.
The bivalent vaccine includes "a component of the original virus strain to provide broad protection against COVID-19 and a component of the omicron variant to provide better protection against COVID-19 caused by the omicron variant," according to the FDA.
The agency notably did not see the same "preliminary signal" that prompted the investigation in the Moderna vaccine.
The agency added that it's "very unlikely that the signal in VSD represents a true clinical risk," and doesn't recommend any changes to vaccine protocols at this time.
According to Rep. Cathy McMorris Rodgers (R-WA), who chairs the House Commmerce Committee, has called on the CDC to "rapidly investigate" the matter.
"The lack of transparency over the past three years has broken Americans’ trust in our public health agencies," said McMorris in a Friday statement. "CDC and FDA have systems in place to monitor vaccine safety that have identified this preliminary signal."
"Now these agencies must rapidly investigate, in an open and transparent manner, whether or not the vaccine may have contributed to the reported strokes."

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