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wader
waderFREE2020#81

Looks like they changed the site permissions - kind of scary

little unnerving - wonder why?

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capspackle

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

"It's easier to fool somebody then to convince them they have been fooled"
Mark Twain
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Chinacat
ChinacatFREE2020#83

[Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)]('https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/index.html')

good helpful info
thanks for sharing(y)

At least I'm enjoyin' the ride.....
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wader
waderFREE2020#84

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/coronavirus-will-wipe-out-corporate-profit-growth-in-2020-and-may-trigger-recession-goldman-sachs-122739601.html[/URL]

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.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
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wader
waderFREE2020#85

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-appears-flare-again-patients-125643284.html[/URL]

"........Chinese health officials said 14 percent of patients in Guangdong province who tested positive for the coronavirus, recovered, and were discharged have tested positive again, [[I]BBC News reports]('https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-51655133?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=5e578d4e4fb54c066b975963%26Recovered%20patients%20testing%20positive%20again%262020-02-27T10%3A15%3A20.152Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:32e35620-a2ad-4cbd-88b7-65e27828cfe7&pinned_post_asset_id=5e578d4e4fb54c066b975963&pinned_post_type=share'). A woman in Japan experience a similar phenomenon, testing positive three weeks after recovering and testing negative."[/I]

This can not be a good thing.....

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wader
waderFREE2020#86

and the markets are in free fall again - Dow down 600 so far

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wader
waderFREE2020#87

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/pet-dog-quarantined-hong-kong-low-levels-coronavirus-080902393.html[/URL]

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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2020#88

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/pet-dog-quarantined-hong-kong-low-levels-coronavirus-080902393.html[/URL]

Pets or dinner?

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jpd
jpdMODnoreaster.com2020#89

Sheesh, dogs slobber all over everything.

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wader
waderFREE2020#90

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-navy-orders-ships-pacific-222412134.html[/URL]

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wader
waderFREE2020#91

it appears this may never go away....................

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/explainer-coronavirus-reappears-discharged-patients-083058438.html[/URL]

*A growing number of discharged coronavirus patients in China and elsewhere are testing positive after recovering, sometimes weeks after being allowed to leave the hospital, which could make the epidemic harder to eradicate.

On Wednesday, the Osaka prefectural government in Japan said a woman working as a tour-bus guide had tested positive for the coronavirus for a second time. This followed reports in China that discharged patients throughout the country were testing positive after their release from the hospital.*

"Well, it's alright.
.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2020#92

it appears this may never go away....................

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/explainer-coronavirus-reappears-discharged-patients-083058438.html[/URL]

*A growing number of discharged coronavirus patients in China and elsewhere are testing positive after recovering, sometimes weeks after being allowed to leave the hospital, which could make the epidemic harder to eradicate.

On Wednesday, the Osaka prefectural government in Japan said a woman working as a tour-bus guide had tested positive for the coronavirus for a second time. This followed reports in China that discharged patients throughout the country were testing positive after their release from the hospital.*

Although it is disconcerting and constant vigilance is required, by the way this blurb is written I wouldn't read too much into this. Regrettably with COVID-19 and many other viral diseases, "diagnoses" depend on which test they used at each time they tested. There are 2 different testing technologies and one will tell you that you have an infection for a long time after you've healed. The tests are new so they really don't know how to interpret results.

Some of these testing anomalies are also harbingers of possible problems with the vaccines getting rushed out there. The may pick antigenic targets that you can raise antibodies against, but are ineffective in raising immunity. I takes a very complete understand of the viral infection mechanism before you can make an educated selection of the proper antigenic targets. It's easy to look at the genetic sequence of a virus and pick "targets", just like it's easy to break inactivate and break up the native virus, and make a "vaccine" from those. However, you won't know if you're maximizing the proper antigenic targets to get a maximally effective vaccine until you completely understand the mechanism of infection. IF these are truly biphasic infections, then there's a damn good chance the vaccines being worked on are not going to be efficacious...

Yeah, this is what I did for 37 years and still consult on...

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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2020#93

And just so folks don't think Roccus is shoveling it, here's a NYTimes summary of a Journal of American Medical Association (JAMA) publication. I bolded the text regarding testing discrepancies...

[SIZE=6]Can you get reinfected by the virus? Experts say it’s unlikely.[/SIZE]

Treating coronavirus patients at a hospital in Wuhan, China, this week. Some people have tested positive after recovering and being discharged, but experts said the issue may lie with faulty testing. Credit...Agence France-Presse — Getty Images

Reports of coronavirus patients testing positive for the virus again after recovering have raised alarm, but health experts say it’s likely that faulty tests are to blame.

The Japanese government reported this week that a woman in Osaka had tested[ positive for the coronavirus for a second time]('https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/02/26/world/asia/26reuters-china-health-japan.html'), weeks after recovering from the infection and being discharged from a hospital. Chinese officials have announced [similar cases]('https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-chengdu/coronavirus-patient-re-hospitalized-in-chinas-chengdu-after-testing-positive-again-idUSKBN20F13C').

But experts said that recovered patients should have at least short-term immunity.

The apparent reinfections could be the result of false negatives when the patients were discharged, said Marc Lipsitch, an epidemiologist at the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health. The throat swabs used to examine for the virus can be technically tricky, and they can miss an infection elsewhere in the body.

“A negative test is not a definitive that there is no more virus in that person,” Dr. Lipsitch said.

Even if patients test positive long after they stop displaying symptoms, they may no longer pose a transmission risk to others, according to a report [published on Thursday in JAMA]('https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2762452'). And even if there are occasional cases of true reinfection, so far, they do not seem to be occurring in large enough numbers to be a priority.

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jpd
jpdMODnoreaster.com2020#94

Let the insanity begin.....

[[SIZE=6][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Backpacking food company Mountain House has taken the unusual step of temporarily shutting down its website in order to deal with skyrocketing demand in the wake of pandemic fears[/COLOR][/SIZE]]('https://www.outsideonline.com/2409958/coronavirus-backpacking-freeze-dried-food-shortage')

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jpd
jpdMODnoreaster.com2020#95

What could possibly go wrong?

[SIZE=7][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Iranians licking religious shrines in defiance of coronavirus spread[/COLOR][/SIZE]

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WhatKnot
WhatKnotFREE2020#96

Hit the wrong emoticon above; fat fingered it on my phone. It should have been o_O

Be Safe
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longcast
longcastFREE2020#97

Let the insanity begin.....

[[SIZE=6][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Backpacking food company Mountain House has taken the unusual step of temporarily shutting down its website in order to deal with skyrocketing demand in the wake of pandemic fears[/COLOR][/SIZE]]('https://www.outsideonline.com/2409958/coronavirus-backpacking-freeze-dried-food-shortage')

Went to the stores over the weekend and was it crowded. Carts over the top!

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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2020#98

What could possibly go wrong?

[SIZE=7][COLOR=rgb(184, 49, 47)]Iranians licking religious shrines in defiance of coronavirus spread[/COLOR][/SIZE]

And why isn't licking the butt of some wiseman a good idea??? COVID-19 aside, I think Marcia Cross' husband would have a few things to say about that...

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CELLFISH
CELLFISHFREE2020#99

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wader
waderFREE2020#100

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/pentagon-canceling-military-exercises-because-220900960.html[/URL]

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.............even if you're old and gray."
"Well, it's alright.
............you still got something to say."
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