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mojoe...dat der bees wat we talkin bout ?

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MOJOE
MOJOEMODnoreaster.com2020#1022

mojoe...dat der bees wat we talkin bout ?

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wader
waderFREE2020#1023

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/new-york-bury-corpses-public-park-morgues-full-182609272.html[/URL]

"Well, it's alright.
.............even if you're old and gray."
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............you still got something to say."
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cany
canyCOMMUNITYnoreaster.com2020#1024

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/new-york-bury-corpses-public-park-morgues-full-182609272.html[/URL]

Thats messes up

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AdmiralOriginal Crew41,107 postsSince 2018
jpd
jpdMODnoreaster.com2020#1025

So the Chinese have loosened up their travel restrictions...smh

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BennyV
BennyVFREE2020#1026

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/new-york-bury-corpses-public-park-morgues-full-182609272.html[/URL]

Cuomo said no way

CommodoreOriginal Crew5,665 postsSince 2018
BennyV
BennyVFREE2020#1027

So the Chinese have loosened up their travel restrictions...smh

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LOLOL the casinos in Macau are next

CommodoreOriginal Crew5,665 postsSince 2018
pequa1
pequa1MODnoreaster.com2020#1028

food for thought ? One fact is that the chicoms have their equivalent of Maryland's US Army Fort Detrick in Wuhan Province

His name is Tim Bessner.
“My wife Angie will tell you that I study history and world events fluently every day. I have studied China for many years. To get answers I need to questions, I call many I know in Washington on Capitol Hill (from my tenure on two Presidential campaigns and Presidential talks) and I ask them for straight up answers to better understand what affects us as a nation. Well, in 2016 America elected a new Sheriff. Donald J Trump. For decades the Chinese walked all over America but the new President said “not anymore”. Trump literally strangled China’s economy to the point their economy was in its worst free fall ever. Trump negotiated a new 50 billion trade agreement. He had Xi by the proverbial balls. America’s economy was on fire and unstoppable. President Xi Jingping knew he could not beat the USA militarily and he knew any domesticated economic attack would fail as our economy was too strong. He had to act. But how?
Enter the USA democrats led by Pelosi and Schiff. Impeachment. A hoax. A distraction for our people and President. Xi Jingping and his thugs see this. They aren’t stupid. They have very intelligent intellectual thinkers in their government. Now you must understand , the Chinese regime are truly Barbarians. Notice I did not say ALL CHINESE.
The Chinese people are a good people. I enjoy my interactions with them. The communist regime has millions of its own citizens slaving in gulags simply for speaking against the government or openly practicing Christianity. Knowing they could not attack us openly they needed to be coy, like a deceptive fox. In my opinion, I believe the regime released a biological weapon upon the world that doesn’t kill everyone, but kills “enough” especially the elderly and in-firmed. Back in WW 2 Hitler thought the same way. He got rid of what he considered the useless and rejects of society.
Trumps task force uses models to figure things.
Xi used and uses “models” too. He figured that if he killed a few of his own (a few hundred thousand to them would be a few out of 1.4 billion people). and spread the virus to other nations (especially to the USA) they would “level the economic playing field” and not have fired a shot. Losses of his own people were acceptable costs of a new war.
When China’s own doctors attempted to sound the warning, they were immediately silenced. In fact one died and another has simply disappeared. Trump and the other allied leaders indeed KNOW this is what happened. They (China)have under reported their own deaths.
Trumps knows he cannot outrightly seek retribution. His news conference today showed me this when he balked publicly about no outright retribution’s over Xi’s handling of this and he immediately brought up the “trade deal”.
However, Trump wasn’t being weak, he too was now being coy. We know this was a biological weapon. The food market story is bullspit. Xi knows we know it.
Trump also today announced he sent two battle groups of Destroyers and other ships to sea several days ago to fight drugs and rogue actors like Iran should they try anything. I say he did this to show Xi he knows what has transpired (we have the greatest intelligence assets) and that they (the Chinese) should rethink further action. Politics is premier. We cannot overtly attack China for what they have done as we would also suffer greatly. We all know this. But China has temporarily achieved its goal.
America was literally consumed by Trumps phony impeachment brought by the ultra left democrats (supported by democrat rank and file and one Republican Mitt Romney) and Xi Jingping saw an opening. He took it.
Xi did what Trump usually does...he walked onto the world stage and threw a grenade into the “room” and left.
It exploded in the form of this worldwide pandemic. It brought the USA and the rest of the world to its knees and leveled the economic playing field. Our economy is now near depression. Xi didn’t fire one bullet. Trump needed to up his game of chess and putting the our Naval ships to sea was his next move. He said he is a “war” President. He is. But now on not one but two fronts. One front of the virus and the other front the Chinese. While the Saudi’s and Russians are screwing with oil prices they aren’t overtly doing what this pandemic is doing. The drug smuggling story for dispatching the Naval Force is bullspit and the world knows it.
I am of the opinion Trump can indeed bring us back from this catastrophe albeit with a changed playing field.
But Trump is a genius in chess and financial matters. He’s become a champ at international politics too. I am sure Trump can and will once again lead the economy to even stronger strength and greatness than it was . He can do it quickly I’m sure of it. He has proved it. Xi Jingping needs to be sent a message loud and clear. NEVER AGAIN.
We need to bring ALL of our critical manufacturing back from a China beginning with our medicines they were recently threatening to withhold. We can do it immediately.
Again, another reason for Trump putting to sea such a sizable Naval Force. Sending a clear message.
We all must ride out the next few weeks. Then we and the rest of the world will pick up the pieces and move on.
The democrats who have given Xi this opening wrapped in a bow must pay a heavy price in November as they (the democrats) truly have cost and continue to cost America precious lives by the phony scandals.
Nancy Pelosi continues to help the Chinese by her daily shameless attacks upon the President and meddling in stimulus packages as she did this last weekend. Yesterday’s statements she made were truly appalling and lowest of low. I didn’t think she could go any lower. What a disgrace she is to our nation.
But, Pelosi aside, make no mistake, China must and will be taught a lesson the likes they have never seen before and Trump is the man to pull the trigger. We the people must teach the democrats the same lesson at the polls. They (the radical wing of the party). are the enemy of a free America. I am certain of it.
The entire democrat party of our forefathers is dead.
Remember people, Trump indeed tried to warn us all of the Coronavirus in his State of the Union Speech. He spoke of it. He said he was on top of it.
After he spoke, Nancy Pelosi ripped up the speech calling Trump's words “a manifesto of lies”. She disgraced the country and all of our fellow honored citizens present in the House Chamber. Well, she now has American blood on her hands. She is very majorly responsible for these needless deaths as well as the Chinese. She and Adam Schiff.
The left and democrats laughed as she tore up his speech. Well, as they laughed the disease he just spoke of in that speech came to our shores. Republicans and Democrats alike are now dying. Your family members and mine. Our grandparents and middle-aged citizens alike. Bodies are being loaded in trucks with forklifts in Brooklyn outside of hospitals. No one is safe. Our liberty is for the most part suspended. As we bury our dead (without proper funerals) from this calamity let’s drive the nails into the coffin of the radical Democrat party as well in November. It’s time people. Stand up for your rights and your country! Our Liberty and survival are at stake!
I am praying for God's blessing on our nation. But, God also gave us the ability to think for ourselves and it’s time we placed blame for all this death where it belongs. The doorsteps of Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schiff and Xi Jinping directly. Wake Up America. WAKE UP!”
(C) 2020 Tim Besmer, Sr.
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pequa1
pequa1MODnoreaster.com2020#1029

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus-china-trail-leading-back-to-wuhan-labs/[/URL]

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CommodoreOriginal Crew7,034 postsSince 2018
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Ppl they don’t test
A tiger they tested

something wrong with this

I dont believe they are the same test. I'm pretty sure you cant just take a human test and use it on a tiger. I think they would have their own test.

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First MateOriginal Crew693 postsSince 2019
TonySmjc

I would doubt that
But I’m not an immunologist

the reagent is testing fir the virus not the Tigre
I don’t see where it would differ
Tiger swab goes in test tube add reagent
See result

Captain1,857 postsSince 2020
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According to Dr Paul Calle, the Bronx Zoo's chief veterinarian the tests are not the same one used to test humans so it did not interfere with human testing.

"The deer hunter habitually watches the next bend; the duck hunter watches the skyline; the bird hunter watches the dog; and the non-hunter does not watch." Aldo Leopold
"Many men go fishing all their lives without knowing it is not the fish they are after." Henry David Thoreau
First MateOriginal Crew693 postsSince 2019
TonySmjc

Since I can’t prove other wise and there could possibly be a species specific test
I’ll concede the point

but I have my doubts

Captain1,857 postsSince 2020
D

The current test for the virus in humans is not interchangeable with the current test used on tigers.

I dont know what test you are thinking there could possibly be but that was from the Bronx Zoo's chief veterinarian saying they are not interchangeable. I'm going with that.

"The deer hunter habitually watches the next bend; the duck hunter watches the skyline; the bird hunter watches the dog; and the non-hunter does not watch." Aldo Leopold
"Many men go fishing all their lives without knowing it is not the fish they are after." Henry David Thoreau
First MateOriginal Crew693 postsSince 2019
TonySmjc

The current test for the virus in humans is not interchangeable with the current test used on tigers.

I dont know what test you are thinking there could possibly be but that was from the Bronx Zoo's chief veterinarian saying they are not interchangeable. I'm going with that.

and since I can’t prove otherwise so am I

there’s some internet evidence that the test are interchangeable and that species specific test do exist but not in great numbers

would not at all surprise me for a zoo ( that lives it’s animals ) to use any test they could get , and then to be less than honest about it

but I’m a cynic , worse a cynic with no proof

still have my doubts

Captain1,857 postsSince 2020
Avenger
Avengernoreaster.com2020#1036

Since the CDC has been saying we don't have to worry about our pets transmitting the virus I would think that a change where animals can carry the virus might be something we would want to know about.

Chrome warns this may be a phishing site. Well, Duh,... Stupid jerks can't even spell fishing right.
CaptainOriginal Crew3,431 postsSince 2019
TonySmjc

Big difference between what you might want to know about and what they are willing to tell you

Captain1,857 postsSince 2020
Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2020#1038

and since I can’t prove otherwise so am I

there’s some internet evidence that the test are interchangeable and that species specific test do exist but not in great numbers

would not at all surprise me for a zoo ( that lives it’s animals ) to use any test they could get , and then to be less than honest about it

but I’m a cynic , worse a cynic with no proof

still have my doubts

OK, based on 37 years in the business...

If I am reading between the lines correctly, the Human vs. Tiger tests are basically the same, but there may certainly be differences on the sample handling end and detection. They each detect the COVID-19 viral RNA so any nucleic acid sequences detected and possibly amplified would be the same. However there may be differences in how the RNA is extracted from the sample, the methodology used for amplification, and what tag is used for detection. So yes, strictly speaking they're different, but only by nuances.

I firmly believe that the entire test "kit" used on the tiger was something custom formulated by a veterinary lab and not concocted by taking reagents from an FDA-approved kit for use in humans. Therefore nobody was denied a test so the tiger could get tested.

It's no great feat to make up an RNA test for a known viral sequence, any decent RNA scientist can make one in an afternoon that's good for running a dozen or few tests. Repeatably manufacturing millions of tests that will work all the time is a BIG DEAL and this is what the FDA looks for. The Bronx Zoo folks stressed that the cats got a test designed for them so folks didn't get upset thinking that a tiger got a test that they, or one of their loved ones should have gotten.

OK, to simplify the above here's an example. Say you and your buddy just ordered the same new boat, but you wanted a white hull, a Yammie, an open cabin and he wanted an E-Tec, a closed cabin, and a yellow hull. Strictly speaking the boats are different, but not by much, they're basically the same. HOWEVER each boat was manufactured for a specific person.

OK folks, start talking about more important issues...

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Old Mud
Old MudFREE2020#1039

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.yahoo.com/news/new-york-bury-corpses-public-park-morgues-full-182609272.html[/URL]

Please tell me that isn't true. WTF

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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2020#1040

Please tell me that isn't true. WTF

Yeah it is true, they're thinking about this as a last-ditch, temporary solution. Saw it on the news last night.

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