Why are there two different vaccines, can they come up with more scenarios to make this more confusing and frightening?
Have other Pandemics, disease & epidemics of our past had multiple vaccines.
Had the Polio vaccine need several different types before it was successful?
[HEADING=2]just wonderful eh?[/HEADING]
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[HEADING=2]London Begins Emergency Lockdown as U.K. Fights New Virus Strain[/HEADING]
By
[Tim Ross]('https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/ATA2uoEiDe0/tim-ross')
and
[Eddie Spence]('https://www.bloomberg.com/authors/AUJMUap-1RE/eddie-spence')
December 19, 2020, 11:19 AM EST Updated on December 19, 2020, 7:04 PM EST
[Bloomberg - Are you a robot?]('https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-19/london-put-in-emergency-lockdown-as-u-k-fights-new-virus-strain')
it's popping up in Denmark, Italy, Austria and few other European countries as well - EU is banning flights from the UK - why only the UK beats me & why bother if it's in several countries already? I
Why are there two different vaccines, can they come up with more scenarios to make this more confusing and frightening?
Have other Pandemics, disease & epidemics of our past had multiple vaccines.
Had the Polio vaccine need several different types before it was successful?
Don't sweat it Jack, this is all good...
Why are there different versions? Pretty simple, different manufacturers use different techniques for their vaccines and all the vaccine manufacturers dropped everything else they were doing to start on this once the virus's genetic sequence was published.
Interestingly enough, for all intents and purposes, the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are the same thing, like an old Evinrude and its Johnson equivalent. Their internal workings are identical, just different "packaging". They both use mRNA strands encased in lipids to instruct your muscle cells to make the viral spike protein. The solutions that the nanolipid particles are suspended into are different and are probably the reason for the storage difference, possibly along with the lipid composition of the nanoparticles. These are the first mRNA based vaccines ever sold, although the technology has been around for years, used in R&D and manufacturing. Very glad and excited that it's finally getting its due.
Yes, there were multiple iterations of the polio vaccine, the last version wasn't an injection, but a liquid that was dropped onto a sugar cube and we ate the cube. I remember that one vividly, hell I got a snack!!
Which one is the Johnson, I’ll go with that one.
had a Johnson and it was reliable , any time I was on a friends or rental with Evinrude It had probs.
Which one is the Johnson, I’ll go with that one.
had a Johnson and it was reliable , any time I was on a friends or rental with Evinrude It had probs.
They had the same parts, besides the colored exterior items, the same part in the same year 6HP said OMC Part#12456, not Evinrude or Johnson part #. How about the guts of Chevy Silverado and a GMC Sierra?
Ask Cany, the guts are the same. You can choose which one is the Johnson, my sleeve is up for the first available.
They had the same parts, besides the colored exterior items, the same part in the same year 6HP said OMC Part#12456, not Evinrude or Johnson part #. How about the guts of Chevy Silverado and a GMC Sierra?
Ask Cany, the guts are the same. You can choose which one is the Johnson, my sleeve is up for the first available.
Same shit and iLL throw in escalade
Any trending opinions/information out there about Covid19 survivors needing to get vaccinated?
All need to get vaccinated.
JPD is correct. The vaccine allows you immune system to make specific antigens, a natural infection causes you to make lots of different of antibodies, and maybe too few of "the good stuff." Therefore, everybody has to roll up their sleeves...
For Roccus - J&J's single dose vaccine has promise
[HEADING=2][Interim Results of a Phase 1–2a Trial of Ad26.COV2.S Covid-19 Vaccine]('https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034201')[/HEADING]
For Roccus - J&J's single dose vaccine has promise
[HEADING=2][Interim Results of a Phase 1–2a Trial of Ad26.COV2.S Covid-19 Vaccine]('https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2034201')[/HEADING]
Interesting. Curious to see the Phase 3 data...
If the above diagram piques your interest, then here's the article: [[SIZE=6]Inside the B.1.1.7 Coronavirus Variant[/SIZE]]('https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/health/coronavirus-mutations-B117-variant.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage')
[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/01/18/health/ca-vaccine-lot-pause/index.html[/URL]
Southern Cali is pausing the Moderna vaccine roll out due to high number of allergic reactions.
Nice summary piece from the NY Times today regarding vaccines and the coming months.
Read if you want to face reality, ignore if you think Unicorns fart rainbows...
Unfortunately the graphics and included text the article won't port over well so I attached a complete PDF for those of you interested.
And here's the link. Not sure if the Times is allowing free access to COVID articles or not:
[[SIZE=5]Why Vaccines Alone Will Not End the Pandemic[/SIZE]]('https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/01/24/us/covid-vaccine-rollout.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage')
[HEADING=2]Why Vaccines Alone Will Not End the Pandemic[/HEADING]
By Matthew Conlen, [Denise Lu]('https://www.nytimes.com/by/denise-lu') and [James Glanz]('https://www.nytimes.com/by/james-glanz')Jan. 24, 2021
The coronavirus pandemic in the United States has raged almost uncontrollably for so long that millions of vaccinations will not be able to stop the spread of the disease unless people continue to wear masks and maintain social distancing measures until midsummer or later, according to a new model by scientists at Columbia University.
The arrival of highly effective vaccines in December lifted hopes that they would eventually slow or stop the spread of the disease through the rest of the population. But vaccines alone are not enough, the model shows. And if precautions like working remotely, limiting travel and wearing masks are relaxed too soon, it could mean millions more infections and thousands more deaths.
Someone died after recieving a vaccine shot in Cali.
[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.wsj.com/articles/california-authorities-probe-death-of-person-who-received-covid-19-vaccine-hours-earlier-11611518487[/URL]
Authorities are asking people not to draw any conclusions until an autopsy is done.
By reading your informative postings I realize that an vaccinated Individual can sill get infected with no or mild symptoms. My question is how long will the vaccinated individual be infectious to others?
I doubt they know - but we must follow the science! 8-)
By reading your informative postings I realize that an vaccinated Individual can sill get infected with no or mild symptoms. My question is how long will the vaccinated individual be infectious to others?
I doubt they know - but we must follow the science! 8-)
Yes, no one has these data yet. In following the science, it's no sin, but critical to admit when you don't know instead of making up some BS answer or wild speculation...8-)
I doubt there will ever be an answer to this question, at least not until the pandemic fires have been put out.
To fully answer this question, you would have to do daily PCR testing of at least a few hundred to a few thousand vaccine recipients. If any of those PCR results were positive in the screening mode, then you would convert from PCR screen to quantitative PCR on a daily basis a value that was to be lower than an infectious number had registered. Besides all this testing, there would be the necessity of recording daily clinical symptoms, temperature, etc. We're talking a ton of clinical work and testing when these commodities are needed in other areas of the pandemic.
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