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Piping plover reprieve?

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Kona
KonaFREEAug 3#1

This should be the end of the draconian beach closure regulations in regards to both preemptive fencing and beach closures in response to the freaking birds!

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First MateOriginal Crew271 postsSince 2019
pequa1
pequa1MODnoreaster.comAug 3#2

Release the fox !!

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CommodoreOriginal Crew7,034 postsSince 2018
OVERBORED
OVERBOREDFREEAug 3#3

It's a shame since the plover tends to nest in tire tracks on the beach...

"Chance only favors the prepared mind" - Pasteur
Captain4,161 postsSince 2021
pequa1
pequa1MODnoreaster.comAug 3#4

Taste like chicken

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CommodoreOriginal Crew7,034 postsSince 2018
Kona
KonaFREEAug 3#5
OVERBORED
It's a shame since the plover tends to nest in tire tracks on the beach...

Not necessarily, the little bastards won’t nest where there is foot or vehicular traffic. The preemptive fencing rolls out the red carpet for them.

First MateOriginal Crew271 postsSince 2019
pequa1
pequa1MODnoreaster.comAug 3#6

Let the feral cats eat them and the coyotes get the cats

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CommodoreOriginal Crew7,034 postsSince 2018
Kona
KonaFREEAug 3#7

The way the new definition is written only immediate and direct actions directed at the critter is prohibited, so we should be good to go. Will be running this past our attorney shortly.

First MateOriginal Crew271 postsSince 2019
Snapprhead27

Yet we still get charged full price for 4x4 pass!

Commodore5,031 postsSince 2020
Snapprhead27

Yet we still get charged full price for 4x4 pass!

Commodore5,031 postsSince 2020
OVERBORED
OVERBOREDFREEAug 3#10
Kona
Not necessarily, the little bastards won’t nest where there is foot or vehicular traffic. The preemptive fencing rolls out the red carpet for them.lo

Looks pretty close to me

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Captain4,161 postsSince 2021
Kona
KonaFREEAug 4#11

This gives as some solid law to stand on when fighting the bird huggers.

First MateOriginal Crew271 postsSince 2019
MakoMatt
MakoMattMODnoreaster.comAug 4#12

Serious question, why all the animosity, and need for lawyers, etc. in regard to the Piping Plovers?

CaptainOriginal Crew2,132 postsSince 2018
longcast
longcastFREEAug 4#13
MakoMatt
Serious question, why all the animosity, and need for lawyers, etc. in regard to the Piping Plovers?

Beach access. But only for a few.

AdmiralOriginal Crew20,417 postsSince 2019
Kona
KonaFREEAug 7#14
MakoMatt
Serious question, why all the animosity, and need for lawyers, etc. in regard to the Piping Plovers?

The piping plover situation has destroyed 4x4 beach access for thousands of, and the new law will give us our rights back.

First MateOriginal Crew271 postsSince 2019
Kona
KonaFREEAug 7#15
longcast
Beach access. But only for a few.

For anyone who drives the beach, camps on the beach and enjoys our traditional access.

First MateOriginal Crew271 postsSince 2019
Kona
KonaFREEAug 7#16
MakoMatt
Serious question, why all the animosity, and need for lawyers, etc. in regard to the Piping Plovers?

Because of the onerous Federal regulations thousands of 4x4 users have lost traditional access and an important part of our life. Thank God there has been some sanity injected into the situation.

First MateOriginal Crew271 postsSince 2019
MakoMatt
MakoMattMODnoreaster.comAug 7#17
Kona
The piping plover situation has destroyed 4x4 beach access for thousands of, and the new law will give us our rights back.

I think you may be confusing “rights” and “privileges”

How many miles of beach access do you enjoy the privilege of now, and how many miles of that privilege is being denied now due to the Piping Plover restrictions?

CaptainOriginal Crew2,132 postsSince 2018
Kona
KonaFREEAug 7#18

In the Town of Southampton we have one 24/7 4x4 area left thats about 2,000 feet . When the damn birds are nesting we are denied all of it.

First MateOriginal Crew271 postsSince 2019
Kona
KonaFREEAug 7#19

It’s a right Guaranteed by the Dongan Patent, the right to pass and repass any beach in the Township. The rest of the Town is 4x4 accessible 9-6 from the Tuesday before Memorial Day to September 25, most of that is also infested.

First MateOriginal Crew271 postsSince 2019
MakoMatt
MakoMattMODnoreaster.comAug 7#20

Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

The Dongan Patent I believe gives control over some of the east end beaches to the local municipalities. So it may be up to the town to decide.

Additionally, there is the Migratory Bird Act Treaty to which we are signatory to. They are also listed as endangered under NY State Law which provides rigorous safeguards and penalties concerning violations.

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