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Rigging blackfish jigs - seeking suggestions

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Chinacat
ChinacatFREENov 2#21
longcast
No. Palomar the barrel swivel to the braid. Improved clinch leader to barrel.

Gotcha
I misread you. I thought you meant snap swivel at braid and then were putting a barrel on too of leader at opposite end of jig 😎

At least I'm enjoyin' the ride.....
CommodoreOriginal Crew7,065 postsSince 2018
Matts
MattsFREENov 2#22

So no one uses a metal clip/snap, etc. to make jig changes quick. I don't either. But why?? It's probably stronger than the surgeon's loop? I can't believe it would scare away the fish. But I feel like i have better results with a straight tie. I just can't figure out why.

First MateOriginal Crew693 postsSince 2019
Kona
KonaFREENov 2#23

In my mind a snap has the potential to hang up, just a minimalist at heart when it comes to blackfishing

First MateOriginal Crew271 postsSince 2019
Snapprhead27

I like to go straight line to line. Again, it's all personal preference.

Commodore5,031 postsSince 2020
longcast
longcastFREENov 2#25
Kona
In my mind a snap has the potential to hang up, just a minimalist at heart when it comes to blackfishing

Perfect wording, thank you!

I will add that my confidence is better without a clip.

AdmiralOriginal Crew20,417 postsSince 2019
hartattack
hartattackFREENov 2#26

I also prefer no hardware when togging, less to snag. I use topshot mono at same strength as braid on reel and tie on where the mono Belmar rig breaks off. My 20' topshot is closer to 7' at end of day..

Once in a while you can get shown the light
In the strangest of places if you look at it right
First MateOriginal Crew286 postsSince 2018
Leprechaun
LeprechaunMODnoreaster.comNov 2#27

At the risk of making it worse, here's a pair of videos that illustrate my 40lb braided line to 40lb shock leader (typically around 6-7 feet) via a PR Bobbin knot, snap on the other end of it to my rig. Note clear plastic bead that prevents swivel to rod tiptop crashes. 100lb barrel swivel top of rig, 50lb Big game - "Stand-off T-knot" dropper loop to hook. Doubled overhand loop for sinker. Note the small glow bead ahead of the hook. Never a problem with any of the "hardware." Normally its the sinker that hangs up - break it off, unsnap damaged rig, snap on new rig, put sinker on, bait up and drop back down. Takes maybe 30 seconds for the whole dealeo.

Similar setup for jigs on my spinning setups - except 30lb shock leader and rig is just an 18" piece of 40lb Big Game with a barrel swivel on one end and a double overhand loop knot for the jig.

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CaptainOriginal Crew2,216 postsSince 2018
Snapprhead27
hartattack
I also prefer no hardware when togging, less to snag. I use topshot mono at same strength as braid on reel and tie on where the mono Belmar rig breaks off. My 20' topshot is closer to 7' at end of day..

Do you find that you use a lot more mono when using a Belmar rig being you have to double it over?

Commodore5,031 postsSince 2020
S
Sc42FREENov 2#29

Thanks again for all the responses. For my trip Wednesday, I decided to go with the coastlock snaps and pretied leaders with barrel swivel one end and loop on the other. It’ll be a departure for me as up till now I’ve used less hardware at the expense of having to do more knot tying for jig changes or breakoffs.

Question - all other things being equal, how much do the snaps, swivels, jig loop (vs. knot tied), and even the beads add to drag in the water column? I struggle to get jigs as light as others are using down, blackfishing or fluking. I can understand when the current is strong enough to matter, but am wondering what else might be working against me.

Mate65 postsSince 2020
Snapprhead27

Other things to consider would be your braid test, rod and reel.

Commodore5,031 postsSince 2020
hartattack
hartattackFREENov 3#31
Snapprhead27
Do you find that you use a lot more mono when using a Belmar rig being you have to double it over?

Yes, that's why my topshot starts at 20' and Leps' at 7'...

Once in a while you can get shown the light
In the strangest of places if you look at it right
First MateOriginal Crew286 postsSince 2018
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Sc42FREENov 3#32
Snapprhead27
Other things to consider would be your braid test, rod and reel.

Spinning rod and reel, 20# Power Pro. Maybe it’s the operator!

Mate65 postsSince 2020
Snapprhead27
Sc42
Spinning rod and reel, 20# Power Pro. Maybe it’s the operator!

Nah. What kind of rod?

Commodore5,031 postsSince 2020
S
Sc42FREENov 3#34
Snapprhead27
Nah. What kind of rod?

7’ Tsunami Carbon Shield II MH, Daiwa Fuego 3000

Mate65 postsSince 2020
Snapprhead27
Sc42
7’ Tsunami Carbon Shield II MH, Daiwa Fuego 3000

You're fine

Commodore5,031 postsSince 2020
Snapprhead27

Not sure how sensitive those tips are. Make sure it's not to stiff, otherwise it may be too late by the time you realize the crab is gone

Commodore5,031 postsSince 2020
Snapprhead27

Looks like you had a great day yesterday!!

Commodore5,031 postsSince 2020
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Sc42FREENov 5#38
Snapprhead27
Looks like you had a great day yesterday!!

All in all an incredible day. More than made up for last year's 3 wind cancellations.

Had one jig leader breakoff. Hooked new leader on swivel to clip in seconds. I did appreciate how quickly that got me back on the bottom.

Mate65 postsSince 2020
Snapprhead27

How did the carbon shield feel?

Commodore5,031 postsSince 2020
S
Sc42FREENov 5#40
Snapprhead27
How did the carbon shield feel?

I always liked that rod. Have had it for a few years now. Sensitive enough tip, at least for me, that I could see most of the taps I was getting.

Mate65 postsSince 2020

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