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george
georgeADMINnoreaster.com2023#261
Want me to take care of him Sir?
Thanks General. We're good ?
George R. Scocca
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Thanks General. We're good ?
Politics has certainly distorted people's interpretation of this issue.

Whatever is happening, it's unnatural.
"Chance only favors the prepared mind" - Pasteur
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cany
canyCOMMUNITYnoreaster.com2023#263
Thanks General. We're good ?
Ok if you change your mind send me the code and BOOM hes gone
General cany, Watching always Watching
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Tigashrk
TigashrkFREE2023#264
Look at that porpoise, it’s obvious by looking at the picture it was in its prime. Some people don’t see past the rails on a paid for hire boat. There’s no reason that fish should be washing up on a beach in NJ. The older I get the more I’ve come to realize there is no coincidence. I can only imagine the amount of sea life we are not seeing that’s dying, what a shame. Must be global warming ?4D0958F8-F27B-4C70-88F9-5FCC6D4503EE.webp
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BoatGuy
BoatGuynoreaster.com2023#265
I read or heard somewhere that autopsy showed some of these animals are full of plastic.
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hartattack
8 dolphins beached themselves at Sea Isle City today. All 8 have died. Witness said they were frantic swimming back and forth, then went over the bar directly into the beach ! Survey was taking place just offshore for the OSW project.
www.cbsnews.com

8 dolphins dead after washing ashore in Sea Isle City

Kerri Corrado reports.
www.cbsnews.com
Once in a while you can get shown the light
In the strangest of places if you look at it right
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george
georgeADMINnoreaster.com2023#267
8 dolphins beached themselves at Sea Isle City today. All 8 have died. Witness said they were frantic swimming back and forth, then went over the bar directly into the beach ! Survey was taking place just offshore for the OSW project.
www.cbsnews.com

8 dolphins dead after washing ashore in Sea Isle City

Kerri Corrado reports.
www.cbsnews.com
It's hard to accept that this is OK in any form. Is this normal? Have we EVER seen this before? As anglers, we know all too well what it's like to be treated as second-class citizens. But this, the approved killing of thousands of dolphins and whales, the commercialization of our once beautiful coastline, is by far the most devastating we've ever seen. The fact that this train cannot be stopped is both frustrating and saddening at the same time.

Our once beautiful coast will soon be a thing of the past. There is no sugarcoating it; nothing will be the same.

I have little doubt that this will be considered one of the worst environmental decisions our blind and money-hungry politicians have given us. In the meantime, we continue to witness the massacre of these magnificent creatures in numbers we have never seen. Very sad.
George R. Scocca
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It's ironic how today's mammals are being sacrificed for tomorrow's "green" energy.
If these projects were scrutinized as much as every fossil fuel project was, they would never leave the planning phase.
Feels like we're jumping in to the shallow end of the pool head first.
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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2023#269

Score 1 for the whales!! Not sure if this "attack" was in response to the insult the whale's Atlantic relatives are enduring or that "vegetarian pizza" being dipped in Ranch Dressing!!

[HEADING=2]Sailboat crew rescued in Pacific after abandoning ship sunk by whale[/HEADING]
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By Karen Schwartz March 22, 2023

His circumstances sounded straight out of “Moby-Dick,” but Rick Rodriguez wasn’t kidding. In his first text messages from the life raft, he said he was in serious trouble.

“Tommy this is no joke,” he typed to his friend and fellow sailor Tommy Joyce. “We hit a whale and the ship went down.”

“Tell as many boats as you can,” Rodriguez also urged. “Battery is dangerously low.”

On March 13, Rodriguez and three friends were 13 days into what was expected to be a three-week crossing from the Galápagos to French Polynesia on his 44-foot sailboat, Raindancer. Rodriguez was on watch, and he and the others were eating a vegetarian pizza for lunch around 1:30 p.m. In an interview with The Washington Post later conducted via satellite phone, Rodriguez said the ship had good winds and was sailing at about 6 knots when he heard a terrific BANG!

“The second pizza had just come out of the oven, and I was dipping a slice into some ranch dressing,” he said. “The back half of the boat lifted violently upward and to starboard.”

The sinking itself took just 15 minutes, Rodriguez said. He and his friends managed to escape onto a lifeboat and a dinghy. The crew spent just 10 hours adrift, floating about nine miles before a civilian ship plucked them from the Pacific Ocean in a seamless predawn maneuver. A combination of experience, technology and luck contributed to a speedy rescue that separates the Raindancer from similar catastrophes.

“There was never really much fear that we were in danger,” Rodriguez said. “Everything was in control as much as it could be for a boat sinking.”

It wasn’t lost on Rodriguez that the story that inspired Herman Melville happened in the same region. The ship Essex was also heading west from the Galápagos when it was rammed by a sperm whale in 1820; leaving the captain and some crew to endure roughly three months and resort to cannibalism before being rescued.

There have been about 1,200 reports of whales and boats colliding since a worldwide database launched in 2007, said Kate Wilson, a spokeswoman for the International Whaling Commission. Collisions that cause significant damage are rare, the U.S. Coast Guard said, noting the last rescue attributed to damage from a whale was the sinking of a 40-foot J-Boat in 2009 off Baja California, with that crew rescued by Coast Guard helicopter.

Alana Litz was the first to see what she now thinks was a Bryde’s whale as long as the boat. “I saw a massive whale off the port aft side with its side fin up in the air,” Litz said.

Rodriguez looked to see it bleeding from the upper third of its body as it slipped below the water.

Bianca Brateanu was below cooking and got thrown in the collision. She rushed up to the deck while looking to the starboard and saw a whale with a small dorsal fin 30 to 40 feet off that side, leading the group to wonder if at least two whales were present.

Within five seconds of impact, an alarm went off indicating the bottom of the boat was filling with water, and Rodriguez could see it rushing in from the stern.

Water was already above the floor within minutes. Rodriguez made a mayday call on the VHF radio and set off the Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon (EPIRB). The distress signal was picked up by officials in Peru, who alerted the U.S. Coast Guard District 11 in Alameda, Calif., which is in charge of U.S. vessels in the Pacific.

The crew launched the inflatable life raft, as well as the dinghy, then realized they needed to drop the sails so that the line attaching the life raft didn’t snap as it got dragged behind the still-moving Raindancer.

Rodriguez grabbed his snorkel gear and a tarp and jumped into the water to see if he could plug the holes, but it was futile. The area near the propeller shaft was badly punched in, he said.

Meanwhile, the others had gathered safety equipment, emergency gear and food. In addition to bottled water, they filled “water bottles, tea kettles and pots,” before the salt water rose above the sink, Rodriguez said.

“There was no emotion,” Rodriguez recalled. “While we were getting things done, we all had that feeling, ‘I can’t believe this is happening,’ but it didn’t keep us from doing what we needed to do and prepare ourselves to abandon ship.”

Rodriguez and Simon Fischer handed the items down to the women in the dinghy, but in the turmoil, they left a bag with their passports behind. They stepped into the water themselves just as the deck went under.

Rodriguez swam to the life raft, climbed in and looked back to see the last 10 feet of the mast sinking “at an unbelievable speed,” he said. As the Raindancer slipped away, he pulled a Leatherman from his pocket and cut the line that tethered the life raft to the boat after Litz noticed it was being pulled taut.

They escaped with enough water for about a week and with a device for catching rain, Rodriguez said. They had roughly three weeks worth of food, and a fishing pole.

The Raindancer “was well-equipped with safety equipment and multiple communication devices and had a trained crew to handle this open-ocean emergency until a rescue vessel arrived,” said Douglas Samp, U.S. Coast Guard Pacific Area Search and Rescue Program Manager. He cautioned that new technology should not replace the use of an EPIRB, which has its own batteries.

Indeed, the one issue the crew faced was battery power. Their Iridium Go, a satellite Wi-Fi hotspot, was charged to only 32% (dropping to 18% before the rescue.) The phone that pairs with it was at 40%, and the external power bank was at 25%.

Rodriguez sent his first message to Joyce, who was sailing a boat on the same route about 180 miles behind. His second was to his brother, Roger, in Miami. He repeated most of what he had messaged to Joyce, adding, “Tell mom it’s going to be okay.”

Rodriguez’s confidence was earned. A 31-year-old from Tavernier, Fla., he had spent about 10 years working as a professional yacht captain, mate and engineer. He bought the Raindancer in 2021 and lived on her, putting sweat equity into getting the boat, built in 1976, ready for his dream trip.

Both he and Brateanu, 25, from Newcastle, England, have mariner survival training. Litz, 32, from Comox, British Columbia, was formerly a firefighter in the Canadian military. Fischer, 25, of Marsberg, Germany, had the least experience, but “is a very levelheaded guy,” Rodriguez said.

Rodriguez gave detailed information on their location and asked his brother to send a message via WhatsApp to Joyce, who has a Starlink internet connection that he checks more frequently than his Iridium Go. Because of his low battery, he told his brother he was turning the unit off and would check it in two hours.

Rodriguez also activated a Globalstar SPOT tracker, which transmitted the position of the life raft every few minutes, and he broadcast a mayday call every hour using his VHF radio.

When he turned the Iridium Go back on at the scheduled time, there was a reply from Joyce: “We got you bud.”

As luck would have it, the Raindancer was sailing the same route as about two dozen boats participating in a round-the-world yachting rally called the World ARC. Boatwatch, a network of amateur radio operators that searches for people lost at sea, was also notified. And the urgent broadcast issued by the Coast Guard was answered by a commercial ship, Dong-A Maia, which said it was 90 miles to the south of Raindancer and was changing course.

“We have a bunch of boats coming. We got you brother,” Joyce typed.

“Can’t wait to see you guys,” Rodriguez replied.

Joyce told Rodriguez that the closest boat was “one day maximum.”

In fact, the closest boat was a 45-foot catamaran not in the rally. The Rolling Stones was only about 35 miles away. The captain, Geoff Stone, 42, of Muskego, Wis., had the mayday relayed to him by a friend sailing about 500 miles away. He communicated with Joyce via WhatsApp and with the Peruvian coast guard using a satellite phone to say they were heading to the last known coordinates.

In the nine hours it took to reach the life raft, Stone told The Post, he and the other three men on his boat were apprehensive about how the rescue was going to work.

“The seas weren’t terrible but we’ve never done a search and rescue,” he said. He wasn’t sure whether they would be able to find the life raft without traveling back and forth.

He was surprised when Fischer spotted the Rolling Stones lights from about five miles away and made contact on the VHF radio.

Once it got closer, Rodriguez set off a parachute flare, then activated a personal beacon that transmits both GPS location and AIS (Automatic Identification System) to assist in the approach. Although the 820-foot Dong-A Maia, a Panamanian-flagged tanker, was standing by, it made more sense to be rescued by the smaller ship.

To board the Rolling Stones, the crew from the Raindancer transferred to the dinghy with a few essentials, then detached the life raft so it wouldn’t get caught in the boat’s propeller.

“We were 30 or 40 feet away when we started to make out each other’s figures. There was dead silence,” Rodriguez said. “They were curious what kind of emotional state we were in. We were curious who they were.”

“I yelled out howdy,” to break the ice, he explained.

One by one they jumped onto the transom. “All of a sudden us four were sitting in this new boat with four strangers,” Rodriguez said.

The hungry sailors were given fresh bread, then offered showers. The Rolling Stones crew gave their guests toothbrushes, deodorant and clothes. None even had shoes.

Rodriguez said he had tried not to think about losing his boat while the crisis was at hand. But, the first morning he woke up on Rolling Stones, it hit him. Not only had he lost his home and belongings, he felt like he’d lost “a good friend.”

“I’ve worked so hard to be here, and have been dreaming of making landfall at the Bay of Virgins in the Marquesas on my own boat for about 10 years. And 1,000 nautical miles short my boat sinks,” Rodriguez said.

The Rolling Stones is expected to arrive in French Polynesia on Wednesday, and Rodriguez is glad that he’s onboard.
“I feel very lucky, and grateful, that we were rescued so quickly,” he said. “We were in the right place at the right time to go down.”

Shall I go to heaven or a-fishing? - H. D. Thoreau
Veni. Vidi. Cepi. - with apologies to Gaius Julius Caesar
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george
georgeADMINnoreaster.com2023#270

Distressed Whale spotted near offshore wind survey vessel – Jim Lovgren​

Monday morning, March 20 th , Bill Lovgren, the owner and Captain of the 72 foot trawler, Holdfast, left the Fisherman’s Dock Co-op shortly after 9 am for an offshore trip targeting Black Sea Bass and Summer Flounder with his two crewmen, James Lovgren, and Paul Kuchinski. Between them they have over seventy-five years of fishing experience from the port. This particular trip was unusual because the vessels fishing offshore generally leave port sometimes during the night due to having a 60- mile distance to travel to get to the grounds by daylight. Bill had to delay his departure Sunday night due to concerns of an oil leak in his generator. First thing Monday morning with the assurance from his mechanic that it wasn’t a critical problem, they threw off the lines and headed offshore.
The eight-to-nine-hour trip to the fishing grounds near the Hudson Canyon would involve each fisherman taking a wheel watch, while the other two tried to sleep. As Captain, Bill gets to decide who takes which watch, and he decided to take the first watch, which being closest to shore, involves keeping a close eye out for vessel traffic, since they traverse through multiple shipping lanes with heavy traffic, including tankers, freighters, and tugs with barges. Towards the end of his watch, around 11:30 a.m., his eye caught splashing on the surface of the water over a mile away, a little north of his course, so he steered closer to get a better view. As the Holdfast got nearer he could see that it was a Whale desperately thrashing about on the surface, slapping its tail, and even rolling over at one point. It seemed to him that the whale had surfaced and couldn’t submerge itself, like it was trying to get out of the water. As he drew closer he took video of the hapless mammal as it frantically swam south, knowing that the Whale was probably fleeing from the noise being created by the offshore wind research vessel, the Go Discovery, who was less than two miles away from them.
Siting Whales is a fairly common occurrence for commercial vessels, but it still draws fishermen to watch these majestic animals as they go about their peaceful existence. This time of the year, thousands of Whales and Dolphins are migrating to northern grounds for the summer, and the Holdfast
On the offshore fishing grounds, dozens of commercial fishing boats were out taking advantage of a welcome break in the winters bad weather, with most of the boats around the Hudson Canyon area seeking, Summer Flounder, Scup, and Black Sea Bass. The surface of the water was teeming with Dolphins, many of which charge the boats when they haul their gear back to get an easy meal. Pilot Whales are especially abundant this time of year, and have been observed changing direction and swimming towards commercial boats the minute they hear the boat slow down and put their power take-off in gear. The change in the sound from the engine, and the PTO is like ringing the dinner bell to pilot whales who sometimes come right up to the boat as the cod end is being brought on board and stick their heads out of the water to observe the boat and crew, while looking for any fish that slip through the nets mesh. Crewman James Lovgren noted that many times this trip they had over fifty dolphins swimming near the boat during haul-backs. Less then fifteen miles from the Hudson grounds, the research vessel Go Explorer was busy surveying in the Texas Tower area where they had been working recently. Few vessels bother trying to fish near them as according to Captain Lovgren, you can’t catch a fish within four miles of these vessels when they are working, the noise scares them away.
The observation of the Whale by the Holdfast is uncommon in that most commercial vessels working offshore do their traversing during the night, as that is when fishing is slowest, so they cannot see any surface activity unless there is a bright moon in the sky. The actions of the Whale, believed to be a Humpback, fit into what the government would call Level two harassment, which includes noticeable reactions by the animal, that may lead to serious injury, but not death. That would be Level One harassment. The Whales behavior is a not a feeding pattern or style, Humpback Whales eat only during the four months when they are feasting in the cold article waters during the summer time. The rest of the year they live on their fat reserves which they count on to allow them to migrate thousands of miles using those fat reserves. Forced changes in the migratory path of whales results in a loss of essential fat reserves, and are known to cause miscarriages, starvation, and loss of young calves.
The slapping of the Whales Tail is a loud warning to other whales of danger and can be heard underwater for miles. The day after the video was taken, eight Dolphins beached themselves at Sea Isle New Jersey, and died or were euthanized. A number of offshore wind vessels were surveying within twenty miles of the shore adjacent to the stranding area. The government and its apologists have adamantly denied any connections of the wind survey work with the recent spate of marine mammal strandings, they are now going to try to blame the deaths on avian bird flu. Maybe Anthony Fauci can help them with their propaganda campaign.
George R. Scocca
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Wind companies will never admit culpability as it would jeopardize future projects.
The government will never admit culpability because they finally found a way to lease the ocean and aren't about to lose that revenue stream.

"There is no force more potent in the modern world than stupidity fueled by greed "
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The government and its apologists have adamantly denied any connections of the wind survey work with the recent spate of marine mammal strandings, they are now going to try to blame the deaths on avian bird flu. Maybe Anthony Fauci can help them with their propaganda campaign.
HE was doing all right until he revealed himself
since they traverse through multiple shipping lanes with heavy traffic, including tankers, freighters, and tugs with barges.

No chance though that this was distressing the whale or it could have been hit? NAH!
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Roccus7
Roccus7MODnoreaster.com2023#273


Give me a ping, Vasily. One ping only.
Shall I go to heaven or a-fishing? - H. D. Thoreau
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pequa1MODnoreaster.com2023#274


Give me a ping, Vasily. One ping only.
Another from Mr. Connery, and almost appropriate: "It is the wind that passes but the sea remains...."
Every day is Saturday.
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dsedyFREE2023#275

"I know this book; your conclusions were all wrong; Halsey acted stupidly."

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george
georgeADMINnoreaster.com2023#276
The government and its apologists have adamantly denied any connections of the wind survey work with the recent spate of marine mammal strandings, they are now going to try to blame the deaths on avian bird flu. Maybe Anthony Fauci can help them with their propaganda campaign.
HE was doing all right until he revealed himself
since they traverse through multiple shipping lanes with heavy traffic, including tankers, freighters, and tugs with barges.

No chance though that this was distressing the whale or it could have been hit? NAH!
I'm trusting the 3rd generation commercial fisherman. He's spent many days on the high seas and knows more than most when it comes to pour oceans.
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I'm trusting the 3rd generation commercial fisherman. He's spent many days on the high seas and knows more than most when it comes to pour oceans.
It goes without saying that a commercial trawler will do anything to remove "obstacles" interfering with his fishing no? In aspects concerning commercial fishing, I would trust him also. In the matter of him being able to provide proof of the strandings....not so much. The guy spots a whale flapping its tail and says it is warning other whales about the wind mills? Then he throws in Fauci and government cover ups and well there goes credibility right out the window for me anyway. I'll bet with the weather warming and boat traffic building we may see more deaths and the Captain already stated he is traversing high traffic shipping lanes, and now we will have more commercials and sportys out there. This is what I believe and I am not being contrary for the sake of it. If the whales are indeed the concern we are not doing them any service by jumping to unproven conclusions.

PING!!!

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george
georgeADMINnoreaster.com2023#278
It goes without saying that a commercial trawler will do anything to remove "obstacles" interfering with his fishing no? In aspects concerning commercial fishing, I would trust him also. In the matter of him being able to provide proof of the strandings....not so much. The guy spots a whale flapping its tail and says it is warning other whales about the wind mills? Then he throws in Fauci and government cover ups and well there goes credibility right out the window for me anyway. I'll bet with the weather warming and boat traffic building we may see more deaths and the Captain already stated he is traversing high traffic shipping lanes, and now we will have more commercials and sportys out there. This is what I believe and I am not being contrary for the sake of it. If the whales are indeed the concern we are not doing them any service by jumping to unproven conclusions.

PING!!!

I get it. You believe this is a natural occurrence. Great. No need to keep pointing it out. That's what you believe.
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movetheboat
I get it. You believe this is a natural occurrence. Great. No need to keep pointing it out. That's what you believe.
What I believe is that we don't have enough proof or evidence on this. There is nothing natural about it. If this topic was started to point out one thing with no debate or other opinions allowed than I apologize, I misunderstood and thought it was about the whales. Me thinks there is an under current of something else going on around this.
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What I believe is that we don't have enough proof or evidence on this. There is nothing natural about it. If this topic was started to point out one thing with no debate or other opinions allowed than I apologize, I misunderstood and thought it was about the whales. Me thinks there is an under current of something else going on around this.
It's quite obvious that your position is partly to mostly based on an assumed bias and not necessarily what's in front of you.

There is no disputing that marine mammals along the East Coast are behaving and dying in an unnatural manner. What's in front of me is WHAT ARE WE DOING ABOUT IT?

If there's not enough proof or evidence, why is there a status quo within the windmill, shipping and science communities? Shouldn't there be some level of concern and investigative collaboration with the aforementioned entities?
"Chance only favors the prepared mind" - Pasteur
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