And so it begins in earnest. Large scale wind projects in the North East!!

The further I dig the more I find. There are many highly influential environmentalists that are opposed to these wind farms.

JUNE 28, 2021, Ocean City, NJ. – “You've heard propaganda about wind farms from Orsted & Governor Murphy for years - Now hear the real story. I am proud to announce today that best-selling author Michael Shellenberger is our VIP coming to Ocean City on Thursday, July 15th, 7PM to present his respected views of so-called "green energy" to help educate the Citizens of Ocean City and New Jersey about the risky, unreliable and ill-advised proposal to build industrial wind farms off the New Jersey Coast,” said Trica Conte, Founder of the Facebook Group Save our Shoreline - Stop the Wind Farms Off the Coast of NJ!

"On behalf of the 4,200+ followers of Save our Shoreline NJ Facebook page, and the 10,500+ signers of our Change.org Petition I am pleased to organize this Special Event and look forward to a crowd at the Ocean City Music Pier on Thursday, July 15th, 2021 at 7PM," said Conte.

Shellenberger is author of the best-selling new book, Apocalypse Never (Harper Collins June 30, 2020), which has received strong praise from scientists and scholars including Harvard’s Steven Pinker, MIT climate scientist Kerry Emanuel, and the former CEO and Chief Scientist of The Nature Conservancy. “This may be the most important book on the environment ever written,” writes leading climate scientist Tom Wigley. Shellenberger advises policymakers around the world including in the U.S., Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, the Philippines, Australia, United Kingdom, the Netherlands, and Belgium. In January 2020, Shellenberger testified before the Committee on Science, Space, and Technology of the U.S. House of Representatives. The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change invited Michael in 2019 to serve as an independent Expert Reviewer of its next Assessment Report.
"The underlying problem with solar and wind is that they are too unreliable and energy-dilute. " "The reason renewables can’t power modern civilization is because they were never meant to. One interesting question is why anybody ever thought they could." -- Michael Shellenberger

Conte continued, "As you know, for more than two years the Danish company Orsted has invaded New Jersey spending millions of dollars pushing corporate propaganda for their unprecedented, ill-advised industrial wind farm, while simultaneously unleashing their foreign agents to lobby and mislead elected and appointed officials in Ocean City and across New Jersey. Orsted has also forced their corporate propaganda into our public schools, which is unacceptable. It is in the best interest of all Citizens of Ocean City and New Jersey to have a full, open and honest debate, encouraging alternative views and a range of information, to help Citizens determine whether to support or oppose President Biden's and Governor Murphy's radical and unprecedented proposal to irrevocably and negatively alter the environment, the economy and the future of the Jersey Shore and the Atlantic Coast.

"Our proposal to invite journalist and author Michael Shellenberger - “North America’s leading public intellectual on clean energy,” - to come to Ocean City is made in the spirit and with the intent of adding important and relevant information and opinions to the public debate. IF industrial wind farms were so great and were going to SAVE you money, Governor Murphy, Senate President Sweeney and Assembly Speaker Coughlin, and ORSTED would NOT have to USE BLUNT FORCE to implement or hide the real costs of their Energy Master Plan (EMP)!", stated Conte.

I'm for all forms of energy and it'll drive down the price of gas if the Green energy powers a lot of cars. I think Solar is the best option . What happens if the wind doesn't blow for a week during the summer when everybody has their AC on ? You'll still need regular power plants and maintaining regular power plants and Wind mills together will be very expensive.

Europe wants to be 100% Elect cars in fifteen years ,,

Good luck with that.

Europe wants to be 100% Elect cars in fifteen years ,,

Somebody who can do math calculated how many MW of new capacity would be required to meet that demand and it's astronomical. Like 6 GW of every three weeks. And that doesn't factor in distribution.

Again, utopian fantasies concocted by people who answer the question "Where does electricity come from?" By pointing at a wall receptacle.

Somebody who can do math calculated how many MW of new capacity would be required to meet that demand and it's astronomical. Like 6 GW of every three weeks. And that doesn't factor in distribution.

So what are you saying the EU cant count LOL ..I think your missing the point or just blind ...They cant force people to replace their car's with elect ones..but the can work with car Mfg's to stop building them & only build elect cars..and I'm also ASS U ME ing that they feel it will take that long to build the network of charging stations across Europe ...

So what are you saying the EU cant count LOL ..I think your missing the point or just blind ...They cant force people to replace their car's with elect ones..but the can work with car Mfg's to stop building them & only build elect cars..and I'm also ASS U ME ing that they feel it will take that long to build the network of charging stations across Europe ...

Yes, I'm saying the ideology is blinding these people to reality. But I suppose as long as we're saving the world it will just magically happen because we care so much?

I'm neither missing it nor blind. This whole thing is being concocted by advocates and politicians. Neither of which are of any practical use. And yes, they kind of can force it by, as you point out, eliminating choices. People who know better know you can't dictate markets for very long. There have also been numerous auto makers that weren't quick enough to give up their sensibilities and jump on the all-electric bandwagon that suddenly had to come out and apologize or reverse their positions. Why would they have to do that if they weren't being coerced?

At least in the U.S. and I wouldn't think Europe would be much different, we can't even maintain the existing infrastructure. And now all of a sudden we're going to magically double the capacity in fifteen years? It just flies in the face of reality.

Dictate markets going on for ever ..where have you been

Dictate markets going on for ever ..where have you been

If it keeps gasoline cheap I'm for it. I think solar would be more reliable than wind Power . The Town Of Hempstead burns all it's garbage at super high temps ( no Dioxins released into the air ) and generates electricity for 24,000 homes.